You are still blaming man-made things that you believe can be changed. In a lot of other places, people attribute bad things to immutable fate or black magic. I guess I was not talking so much about individual responsibility as I was about the responsibility of mankind (as opposed to the responsibility of divinity) - though the overtly religious movement in the US does seem a bit out of character. Nothing against it! Just saying the religious overtone isn't what I perceived social debate in the US would be flavored with when I first came here 🙂
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You are still blaming man-made things that you believe can be changed. In a lot of other places, people attribute bad things to immutable fate or black magic. I guess I was not talking so much about individual responsibility as I was about the responsibility of mankind (as opposed to the responsibility of divinity) - though the overtly religious movement in the US does seem a bit out of character. Nothing against it! Just saying the religious overtone isn't what I perceived social debate in the US would be flavored with when I first came here 🙂
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
well, I don't think the Democratic Party is exactly a bastian of these principles either. My god, look at the 2004 presidential campaign: hardly a word of positive messages came from *either* camp. All they wanted to do was bash each other to pieces.
The Libertarian party is...well, confused about itself, I think. And the country itself doesn't know what to make of the Libertarian party for good reason. They've got some *great* thinkers on their side and have put up some very decent presidential candidates, but then you've got jackasses out there promoting an image of Libertarianism as this desire to just do drugs, screw around and generally make an ass of yourself, and so no one takes the party seriously.
Sad, really.
Jason
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
Well *I* blame Gay Video Games with Rap soundtracks.
Jason
MadRat says, "Since when did America become supreme? The last supreme race didn't fare too well."
and...
Arsbanned says, "It sounds like a speech Hitler might have given. Just replace "America" with "Germany". Throw in lots of violent gestures and use a loud staccato voice."
These are the responses of a concrete-bound mentality that's full of evasions. MadRat somehow makes some connection to race, as if that was even mentioned or is an issue at all. What kind of reactionary statement is that? I think he just flunked outta this topic. But Arsbanned is just as bad. I am elaborating on an philosophical outlook that sees man as beautiful, strong, intelligent, and capable. A philosphical outlook that sees reality as objective, understandable, and stable. This creates a positive, hopeful, and optimistic society that necessarily subscribes to the principles of economic freedom, liberty, pluralism, and justice. Principles this country was founded on and continually strives to achieve. Above all, this notion that man is essentially good and worthy is the starting point of a psychology that allows for the social progress and human success we need and deserve.
Tell me, how exactly does Nazi Germany fit into this picture?
Having the proper metaphysical starting point is what's brought us to this point. The belief that ideas matter and truth matters creates an inability to believe in the power or triumph of evil. No matter what obstacles or corruptions faced, we cannot accept it as normal or permanent. Pain and suffering is the exception in life- not the rule. A proper, human way of life is always within reach. This is the subconscious fuel that has fed our way of thinking.
This is why our culture and society is permeating the world and making it better. It's not our guns... those are just the result of our success due to these core philosophical premises. This is why Europe will never rise to the same level. We did come dangerously close to succumbing, and joining Europe in its flawed outlook, which was building for a while and culminated during Carter's late 70s when it seemed we were supposed to resign ourselves to mediocrity and just become like everyone else. Luckily Reagan came along and tapped into our historic values and was able to re-ignite our passion and renew our faith that our best times are still ahead.
This is the great separation between Conservatives and Liberals today. Most all major differences are rooted in this conceptual difference of who we are and what the universe is. Modern conservatism -for the most part- wishes to "conserve" these fundamental values that are derived from this benevolent mindset of man and existence. Modern liberalism (this wasn't always the case in the past) has "evolved" it's own metaphysical premise: man is ugly, depraved, and doomed... reality is subjective, unknowable, and chaotic. Whereas our spirit has always said it is not happiness, but suffering, that we consider unnatural... the Liberals today see just the opposite. If humans are inept and reality subjective, then man does not have the tools to achieve his values... tragedy and defeat are life's only constant.
An astute observer of human behavior quickly sees the difference and its consequences. We do not need to look far to see the cynical, negative, pessimistic nature of the far-Left and the results of their malevolent view of man and the universe. There's a quote by the philospher Schopenhauer that goes something like, "The happiest moment of the happy man is the moment of his falling asleep, and the unhappiest moment of the unhappy is the moment of waking up. Human life must be some kind of mistake." This epitomizes the Left's view perfectly IMO. The only mistake here is not human life... it's the life-wrecking philosophy that drags him down and makes him incapable of goal-directed action, values, and success.
PS: Moonbeam, the New-Age psychobabble is tired. I've heard better from a housewife up in Sedona that does readings for $35 a pop 😉
and...
Arsbanned says, "It sounds like a speech Hitler might have given. Just replace "America" with "Germany". Throw in lots of violent gestures and use a loud staccato voice."
These are the responses of a concrete-bound mentality that's full of evasions. MadRat somehow makes some connection to race, as if that was even mentioned or is an issue at all. What kind of reactionary statement is that? I think he just flunked outta this topic. But Arsbanned is just as bad. I am elaborating on an philosophical outlook that sees man as beautiful, strong, intelligent, and capable. A philosphical outlook that sees reality as objective, understandable, and stable. This creates a positive, hopeful, and optimistic society that necessarily subscribes to the principles of economic freedom, liberty, pluralism, and justice. Principles this country was founded on and continually strives to achieve. Above all, this notion that man is essentially good and worthy is the starting point of a psychology that allows for the social progress and human success we need and deserve.
Tell me, how exactly does Nazi Germany fit into this picture?
Having the proper metaphysical starting point is what's brought us to this point. The belief that ideas matter and truth matters creates an inability to believe in the power or triumph of evil. No matter what obstacles or corruptions faced, we cannot accept it as normal or permanent. Pain and suffering is the exception in life- not the rule. A proper, human way of life is always within reach. This is the subconscious fuel that has fed our way of thinking.
This is why our culture and society is permeating the world and making it better. It's not our guns... those are just the result of our success due to these core philosophical premises. This is why Europe will never rise to the same level. We did come dangerously close to succumbing, and joining Europe in its flawed outlook, which was building for a while and culminated during Carter's late 70s when it seemed we were supposed to resign ourselves to mediocrity and just become like everyone else. Luckily Reagan came along and tapped into our historic values and was able to re-ignite our passion and renew our faith that our best times are still ahead.
This is the great separation between Conservatives and Liberals today. Most all major differences are rooted in this conceptual difference of who we are and what the universe is. Modern conservatism -for the most part- wishes to "conserve" these fundamental values that are derived from this benevolent mindset of man and existence. Modern liberalism (this wasn't always the case in the past) has "evolved" it's own metaphysical premise: man is ugly, depraved, and doomed... reality is subjective, unknowable, and chaotic. Whereas our spirit has always said it is not happiness, but suffering, that we consider unnatural... the Liberals today see just the opposite. If humans are inept and reality subjective, then man does not have the tools to achieve his values... tragedy and defeat are life's only constant.
An astute observer of human behavior quickly sees the difference and its consequences. We do not need to look far to see the cynical, negative, pessimistic nature of the far-Left and the results of their malevolent view of man and the universe. There's a quote by the philospher Schopenhauer that goes something like, "The happiest moment of the happy man is the moment of his falling asleep, and the unhappiest moment of the unhappy is the moment of waking up. Human life must be some kind of mistake." This epitomizes the Left's view perfectly IMO. The only mistake here is not human life... it's the life-wrecking philosophy that drags him down and makes him incapable of goal-directed action, values, and success.
PS: Moonbeam, the New-Age psychobabble is tired. I've heard better from a housewife up in Sedona that does readings for $35 a pop 😉
I agree. The Democrats certainly aren't a good party for libertarian views, the best I see is that they suck a little less at it than the Republicans. And you're right about the election, both sides were negative. Not just against each other (that's to be expected) but as to their message for America. Again, I viewed the Dems as being slightly better on this than the Republicans, but that's hardly praise.
And as much as I'd like the Libertarian party, and as much as I think we need a truly libertarian viewpoint (we're offered different flavors of authoritarianism at the moment), the party just doesn't have their stuff together. Rather than representing personal choice and freedom, they seem like the party of MANDATORY bad behavior. Just my viewpoint, but keep in mind I WANT to like them, so imagine how they must look to other people.
Promethply
Golden Member
So said he, who one day will join the rank of the elderly himself :disgust:
Again, there is nothing wrong with your idea. I don't think it sounds Nazish or race related, I think the problem with your thesis is that conservatives have shown none of that as far as I've seen. While I'm not sure I totally disagree with your evaluation of the left as a whole, I think you must be looking at a different conservative side than I am. I don't have the time at the moment to reply in great detail as to why I don't think you're vision of modern conservatives is acurate, but I have never known a group of "positive and optimistic people" who consider so many people their enemies and who are more concerned with attacking other people than they are with bettering themselves.
MadRat
Lifer
Here is a little motivation that drives the masses, cwjerome, its called fear. People fear the very idea of failure. People respond to the fear of guilt. People respond to the ideal of not belonging to one group or another. People are driven by fear. But I tell you now that you will never enjoy the sweet taste of freedom until you shed the culture of fear. I challenge you to give up the idea that you belong to any one group and to stand on your own two feet, independent of fear.
I find this little rant of yours in the first post as nothing more than nonsensical fear that America has to be something, like its their predestination. And I find your notions of liberalism as negative as painting a little picture of your own fear to be left out of the neocon movement. There is no pessimism out there holding you down. There is no metaphysical premise of unnatural spirit holding you back from happiness.
Since when were Conservatives or Liberals truly the good or bad guys? Both movements are flawed and full of crap dogma. Since when were they ever structured in the way that you portray them, cwjerome? I've been around for the better side of four decades and have never seen what you just presented as remotely being the truth. What you percieve as typical conservative or liberal is off. The simple idea that America is supreme lay in fascism. No state is superior over the other and to force the issue is a violation against all of humanity. Take it down to the party level. Take it down to the coalition member level. Take it down to the individual level. Your truth lay in fallacy.
I've heard more stories of fire and brimstone this past five years than all the years prior. Let me tell you that it wasn't too long ago that the end of the world was coming in 2000. Then it was in 2001. Then it was after 911. Well, guess what, Patriot Act and 1452 federal laws later and the world is still churning along as if 911 had zero impact on the everyday life of the average American, fire and brimstone be damned. Terrorists at the door? Hell, the terrorists only came through the door because time and time again some guy hired to prevent the very situation that happened let us all down.
Who'd of thunk thrity years ago that the fire and brimstone destined for the Communists according to the Bible beaters was perhaps just as destined for the Capitalists? It doesn't matter what country you live in, nor your creed, nor your race, nor your sex, nor you political affiliation, nor any other little prejudice you want to project. The fact is that we will all be judged on our own merit, including your thoughts and actions that include how and why you interact with other individuals. That brimstone could very well be meant for all of the above if one wants to hide behind prejudice.
I've heard how the terrorists are the most evil of the evilm the worst of all mankind. Then I open the papers and see the very people that are to protect us commit the very same crimes only its different because its America defending itself. Quite frankly, we are being led around no different than the very enemy terrorists that we have locked in international battle with. Shed the fear and I bet you will breathe alot easier knowing that the reins of fear no longer drive you astray. America deserves a better fate,
I find this little rant of yours in the first post as nothing more than nonsensical fear that America has to be something, like its their predestination. And I find your notions of liberalism as negative as painting a little picture of your own fear to be left out of the neocon movement. There is no pessimism out there holding you down. There is no metaphysical premise of unnatural spirit holding you back from happiness.
Since when were Conservatives or Liberals truly the good or bad guys? Both movements are flawed and full of crap dogma. Since when were they ever structured in the way that you portray them, cwjerome? I've been around for the better side of four decades and have never seen what you just presented as remotely being the truth. What you percieve as typical conservative or liberal is off. The simple idea that America is supreme lay in fascism. No state is superior over the other and to force the issue is a violation against all of humanity. Take it down to the party level. Take it down to the coalition member level. Take it down to the individual level. Your truth lay in fallacy.
I've heard more stories of fire and brimstone this past five years than all the years prior. Let me tell you that it wasn't too long ago that the end of the world was coming in 2000. Then it was in 2001. Then it was after 911. Well, guess what, Patriot Act and 1452 federal laws later and the world is still churning along as if 911 had zero impact on the everyday life of the average American, fire and brimstone be damned. Terrorists at the door? Hell, the terrorists only came through the door because time and time again some guy hired to prevent the very situation that happened let us all down.
Who'd of thunk thrity years ago that the fire and brimstone destined for the Communists according to the Bible beaters was perhaps just as destined for the Capitalists? It doesn't matter what country you live in, nor your creed, nor your race, nor your sex, nor you political affiliation, nor any other little prejudice you want to project. The fact is that we will all be judged on our own merit, including your thoughts and actions that include how and why you interact with other individuals. That brimstone could very well be meant for all of the above if one wants to hide behind prejudice.
I've heard how the terrorists are the most evil of the evilm the worst of all mankind. Then I open the papers and see the very people that are to protect us commit the very same crimes only its different because its America defending itself. Quite frankly, we are being led around no different than the very enemy terrorists that we have locked in international battle with. Shed the fear and I bet you will breathe alot easier knowing that the reins of fear no longer drive you astray. America deserves a better fate,
MadRat, let me cut through the rambling BS and focus on the crux of your post, and the statement that sums up your unfit worldview:
"The simple idea that America is supreme lay in fascism. No state is superior over the other and to force the issue is a violation against all of humanity. Take it down to the party level. Take it down to the coalition member level. Take it down to the individual level. Your truth lay in fallacy."
What you have done here is outlined a perfect example of diseased liberalism, and the antithesis of what America has always been. I could not have asked for a better illustration of what I'm talking about.
Because of your subjective view of reality, there can be no absolutes, no truth, no good or evil, nothing firm or real or stable. With this outlook one nation, one idea, one group, one person cannot be more right or moral than another. Yours is a hideous philosophy of creeping death, where good cannot be attained because metaphysically good does not exist. Progress, success, and happiness are unreal and unattainable because value-judgements are null and void. Man is doomed to frustration and despair and is a helpless plaything of forces beyond his control since he does not have the power of choice. MadRat, you are a metaphysical parasite... living off the fruits of a valid philosophy, sucking its blood, while advocating a reversal that would drive man down into a stagnating hell on earth. You're a moral coward... abdicating a human responsibility to make value-judgements and use reason to decifer reality and move man forward. And most of all, you live in fear... a true, blinding fear of dealing with man's nature and the nature of reality, a fear that you cannot live up to a man's rational responsibility to THINK... gripped by mental paralysis, it's so much easier to mooch off the leaps and gains of mankind's men of action. You've check out, dropped off, and in a fit of shame you try and drag everyone else into your soulless black-hole.
What I have identified in this topic are fundamental ideals that have moved man forward, built this nation, and offers a promise of a better tomorrow (because in my framework, "better" is a concept with meaning). What you have brought into this discussion is the opposite evil, embraced -consciously or not- by the far-Left... a putrid stew of relativism and subjectivism, so as to invalidate the very idea of one thing being "better" than another. Thanks for making my point so clearly.
"The simple idea that America is supreme lay in fascism. No state is superior over the other and to force the issue is a violation against all of humanity. Take it down to the party level. Take it down to the coalition member level. Take it down to the individual level. Your truth lay in fallacy."
What you have done here is outlined a perfect example of diseased liberalism, and the antithesis of what America has always been. I could not have asked for a better illustration of what I'm talking about.
Because of your subjective view of reality, there can be no absolutes, no truth, no good or evil, nothing firm or real or stable. With this outlook one nation, one idea, one group, one person cannot be more right or moral than another. Yours is a hideous philosophy of creeping death, where good cannot be attained because metaphysically good does not exist. Progress, success, and happiness are unreal and unattainable because value-judgements are null and void. Man is doomed to frustration and despair and is a helpless plaything of forces beyond his control since he does not have the power of choice. MadRat, you are a metaphysical parasite... living off the fruits of a valid philosophy, sucking its blood, while advocating a reversal that would drive man down into a stagnating hell on earth. You're a moral coward... abdicating a human responsibility to make value-judgements and use reason to decifer reality and move man forward. And most of all, you live in fear... a true, blinding fear of dealing with man's nature and the nature of reality, a fear that you cannot live up to a man's rational responsibility to THINK... gripped by mental paralysis, it's so much easier to mooch off the leaps and gains of mankind's men of action. You've check out, dropped off, and in a fit of shame you try and drag everyone else into your soulless black-hole.
What I have identified in this topic are fundamental ideals that have moved man forward, built this nation, and offers a promise of a better tomorrow (because in my framework, "better" is a concept with meaning). What you have brought into this discussion is the opposite evil, embraced -consciously or not- by the far-Left... a putrid stew of relativism and subjectivism, so as to invalidate the very idea of one thing being "better" than another. Thanks for making my point so clearly.
cw: Because of your subjective view of reality, there can be no absolutes, no truth, no good or evil, nothing firm or real or stable.
M: You mean there is an absolute truth? Quick, what is it?
cw: With this outlook one nation, one idea, one group, one person cannot be more right or moral than another.
M: I think that is exactly what he said.
cw: Yours is a hideous philosophy of creeping death, where good cannot be attained because metaphysically good does not exist.
M: Why and how does the first flow from the second. I know how you think it does but you are just being emotional. I want a logical reason for this. How does hideous in your opinion become hideous in reality.
cw: Progress, success, and happiness are unreal and unattainable because value-judgements are null and void.
M: Why? How does the loss of one method of evaluation mean there are not other and perhaps better means you have not discovered?
cw: Man is doomed to frustration and despair and is a helpless plaything of forces beyond his control since he does not have the power of choice.
M: Hehe, well if he is right than this is and was always true even all the time you believed it wasn't. So if you are living in a delusion with everything actually only the illusion of choice how do you know the loss of that illusion will create frustration and despair?
cw: Perhaps there are other illusions or turths that prevent that. MadRat, you are a metaphysical parasite... living off the fruits of a valid philosophy, sucking its blood, while advocating a reversal that would drive man down into a stagnating hell on earth.
M: He doesn't sound that bad off to me. In fact he seems as elated in his point of view as you, and somewhat more relaxed.
cw: You're a moral coward... abdicating a human responsibility to make value-judgements and use reason to decifer reality and move man forward. And most of all, you live in fear... a true, blinding fear of dealing with man's nature and the nature of reality, a fear that you cannot live up to a man's rational responsibility to THINK... gripped by mental paralysis, it's so much easier to mooch off the leaps and gains of mankind's men of action. You've check out, dropped off, and in a fit of shame you try and drag everyone else into your soulless black-hole.
M: Well clearly you are afraid to think and feel as he since you're so sure it leads into a soulless black hole, hehe.
The think about your way of thinking is that you need to be right. To know the truth you have to be willing to go wherever the truth leads. And you sure don't want to go where he is.
But he must inevitably be right if you can't define for me that absolute truth you spoke of.
In shore, I think you are expressing one leg of a three legged chair as I alluded to above. Truth is a duality that resolves in understanding. He is right and you are right and then there is the how that's true.
What I have identified in this topic are fundamental ideals that have moved man forward, built this nation, and offers a promise of a better tomorrow (because in my framework, "better" is a concept with meaning). What you have brought into this discussion is the opposite evil, embraced -consciously or not- by the far-Left... a putrid stew of relativism and subjectivism, so as to invalidate the very idea of one thing being "better" than another. Thanks for making my point so clearly.
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M: You mean there is an absolute truth? Quick, what is it?
cw: With this outlook one nation, one idea, one group, one person cannot be more right or moral than another.
M: I think that is exactly what he said.
cw: Yours is a hideous philosophy of creeping death, where good cannot be attained because metaphysically good does not exist.
M: Why and how does the first flow from the second. I know how you think it does but you are just being emotional. I want a logical reason for this. How does hideous in your opinion become hideous in reality.
cw: Progress, success, and happiness are unreal and unattainable because value-judgements are null and void.
M: Why? How does the loss of one method of evaluation mean there are not other and perhaps better means you have not discovered?
cw: Man is doomed to frustration and despair and is a helpless plaything of forces beyond his control since he does not have the power of choice.
M: Hehe, well if he is right than this is and was always true even all the time you believed it wasn't. So if you are living in a delusion with everything actually only the illusion of choice how do you know the loss of that illusion will create frustration and despair?
cw: Perhaps there are other illusions or turths that prevent that. MadRat, you are a metaphysical parasite... living off the fruits of a valid philosophy, sucking its blood, while advocating a reversal that would drive man down into a stagnating hell on earth.
M: He doesn't sound that bad off to me. In fact he seems as elated in his point of view as you, and somewhat more relaxed.
cw: You're a moral coward... abdicating a human responsibility to make value-judgements and use reason to decifer reality and move man forward. And most of all, you live in fear... a true, blinding fear of dealing with man's nature and the nature of reality, a fear that you cannot live up to a man's rational responsibility to THINK... gripped by mental paralysis, it's so much easier to mooch off the leaps and gains of mankind's men of action. You've check out, dropped off, and in a fit of shame you try and drag everyone else into your soulless black-hole.
M: Well clearly you are afraid to think and feel as he since you're so sure it leads into a soulless black hole, hehe.
The think about your way of thinking is that you need to be right. To know the truth you have to be willing to go wherever the truth leads. And you sure don't want to go where he is.
But he must inevitably be right if you can't define for me that absolute truth you spoke of.
In shore, I think you are expressing one leg of a three legged chair as I alluded to above. Truth is a duality that resolves in understanding. He is right and you are right and then there is the how that's true.
What I have identified in this topic are fundamental ideals that have moved man forward, built this nation, and offers a promise of a better tomorrow (because in my framework, "better" is a concept with meaning). What you have brought into this discussion is the opposite evil, embraced -consciously or not- by the far-Left... a putrid stew of relativism and subjectivism, so as to invalidate the very idea of one thing being "better" than another. Thanks for making my point so clearly.
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Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
I find CW tragically amusing M. He talks a great deal, but says nothing.
I recall in one of the Foundation books that as visiting dignitary's speech was analyzed by computer and the sum of all he said was zero.
So it is with our speechmaker.
I recall in one of the Foundation books that as visiting dignitary's speech was analyzed by computer and the sum of all he said was zero.
So it is with our speechmaker.
cw: PS: Moonbeam, the New-Age psychobabble is tired. I've heard better from a housewife up in Sedona that does readings for $35 a pop
M: My My, now isn't that negative. If you weren't so proud of your stupidity, you wouldn't have been so intimidated by what I said and might even have had some answer to it. And I have no idea what New Age is. I deal in what I know. You label because you are insecure and need phony reassurance. It's always amusing to see people with a so called positive attitude filled with vituperation at those who don't.
And still waiting for that absolute truth.
M: My My, now isn't that negative. If you weren't so proud of your stupidity, you wouldn't have been so intimidated by what I said and might even have had some answer to it. And I have no idea what New Age is. I deal in what I know. You label because you are insecure and need phony reassurance. It's always amusing to see people with a so called positive attitude filled with vituperation at those who don't.
And still waiting for that absolute truth.
I just want you all to know that I have a super secret super atomic weapon. It's the American attitude, my super atomic gigantific ego manifestated down home pride in being the greatest of the greatest people on earth, us wonderful Americans. Look down my nose at the rest of you much? WEEEEEEEEE! have an attitude and it makes me great.
I am the center of the universe and I am POSITIVE.
And imagine,,,,,,,all this is a weapon cause I want you dead. Don't my attitude kill ya?
Up yours asshole.....I'm a proud American. Can do boo boo.
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In America you can grow up to be a child, hehe.
Hey, God damn it, India, you just ate my lunch.
I am the center of the universe and I am POSITIVE.
And imagine,,,,,,,all this is a weapon cause I want you dead. Don't my attitude kill ya?
Up yours asshole.....I'm a proud American. Can do boo boo.
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In America you can grow up to be a child, hehe.
Hey, God damn it, India, you just ate my lunch.
I think what moonie is trying to say is that a positive attitude is obviously better then a negative attitude. BUT....
A positive attitude without being able to consider that you can be wrong on some (maybe even all) of your beliefs (you know you are) is actually a negative attitude. Weird, huh!
If everyone had such an attitude then nothing would ever change. We'd still think the world was flat. America was built upon peoples willingness to accept other views, take what they thought was right from those views (and vice versa) and incorporate it into their belief system. I don' think that has changed for the majority of Americans.
The current GOP leadership acts as if their veiwpoint is the ONLY viewpoint. Notice I said "ACTS', because in their personal lifes they don't follow what they preach which ic why I try to point out their hypocrisy.
I also think the far left suffers from the same thing, but mot to such a degree as the far right. The far right has God on their side, don't you know.
Anyway that's this ole country boy's opinion......so far, LOL.
A positive attitude without being able to consider that you can be wrong on some (maybe even all) of your beliefs (you know you are) is actually a negative attitude. Weird, huh!
If everyone had such an attitude then nothing would ever change. We'd still think the world was flat. America was built upon peoples willingness to accept other views, take what they thought was right from those views (and vice versa) and incorporate it into their belief system. I don' think that has changed for the majority of Americans.
The current GOP leadership acts as if their veiwpoint is the ONLY viewpoint. Notice I said "ACTS', because in their personal lifes they don't follow what they preach which ic why I try to point out their hypocrisy.
I also think the far left suffers from the same thing, but mot to such a degree as the far right. The far right has God on their side, don't you know.
Anyway that's this ole country boy's opinion......so far, LOL.
One structural problem with some conservatives' worldview is they think people from other countries are drastically different than they are. People are people. Yes, certain cultures have some very different beliefs. But by and large, human nature directs people. It's idiotic to think being positive is some sort of secret weapon.
I've said it many times: what makes America strong is it's large population coupled with being a developed country.
Yup. Pure babbling.
I've said it many times: what makes America strong is it's large population coupled with being a developed country.
Yup. Pure babbling.
miketheidiot
Lifer
mein Kampf
There are different kinds of positive attitudes.
There is the positive attitude that is constructed to hide personal pain and pretend it doesn't exist. This is a forced kind of positivity that is a form of mental illness.
And there is the positive attitude that is natural to man. This is the joy we see in animals, and children before they are completely destroyed.
Positive adults are almost always of the former type and often of those who are profoundly successful at repressing their pain.
This is why in mythology and religion there is the notion that the road to heaven goes through hell. The Hero must face his feeling of self hate and self doubt and discover their shadow reality. It is the same on the psychiatrists couch. One relives ones pain in order to transform and transcend it.
For almost all of us the way up is down.
There is no need for a positive attitude really because negative does not exist.
The mind that is free is timeless and in love.
There is the positive attitude that is constructed to hide personal pain and pretend it doesn't exist. This is a forced kind of positivity that is a form of mental illness.
And there is the positive attitude that is natural to man. This is the joy we see in animals, and children before they are completely destroyed.
Positive adults are almost always of the former type and often of those who are profoundly successful at repressing their pain.
This is why in mythology and religion there is the notion that the road to heaven goes through hell. The Hero must face his feeling of self hate and self doubt and discover their shadow reality. It is the same on the psychiatrists couch. One relives ones pain in order to transform and transcend it.
For almost all of us the way up is down.
There is no need for a positive attitude really because negative does not exist.
The mind that is free is timeless and in love.
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