Americans need to start drinking UHT Milk

Mai72

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-temperature_processing

I've never heard of UHT milk until I started to live in Thailand. Basically, it's milk that hasn't been overly processed and heated. The best part is the shelf life is 6-9 months unopened! Once you open it, UHT milk will last as long as regular milk.

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Skyclad1uhm1

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High heat during the UHT process can cause Maillard browning and change the taste and smell of dairy products.

Changed taste and smell is a reason for many not to want it.
 

MarkXIX

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We get this in the US Army all the time. Most people have demonized it, but it's fine with me.
 

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I used to see that in stores here in NC quite often a few years ago. Now, you can still find it, but you have to make an effort to locate it.
 

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Lived off that stuff in Iraq. It's meh. Stick to the skim.

I don't know where you get "hasn't been overly processed" from. How the hell do you think it has been made shelf stable? "Hasn't been heated" ? uhh, UHT stands for Ultra High Temperature
 

Nashemon

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Basically, it's milk that hasn't been overly processed and heated. The best part is the shelf life is 6-9 months unopened!
Quite the opposite actually. The nutrition is cooked out of the milk with over processing and heating to increase the shelf life. So, the shelf life is not the "best part"; It's the only benefit.
 
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Quite the opposite actually. The nutrition is cooked out of the milk with over processing and heating to increase the shelf life. So, the shelf life is not the "best part"; It's the only benefit.

The nutrition loss is fairly insignificant.
 

mmntech

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It's available here but I've only ever seen it used in the food industry. We have it at work for the coffee machine.
 

purbeast0

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i don't understand "why" we should start drinking this? op doesn't even give a reason why.
 
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i don't understand "why" we should start drinking this? op doesn't even give a reason why.

I guess benefits of less waste in terms of preventing milk spoilage and doesn't require constant refrigeration leading to energy savings.
 

Mai72

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I started to drink it because of the shelf life. I don't have a lot of room in my fridge, so it's nice to be able to keep it out of the fridge until I'm ready to use it.

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Red Storm

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I guess benefits of less waste in terms of preventing milk spoilage and doesn't require constant refrigeration leading to energy savings.

It lasts as long as normal milk after opening, so unless you're just buying it to store it on a shelf you're gonna have the same amount of waste as regular milk. And the energy savings aren't there unless milk is the one and only reason why you have a fridge.

Personally I'd rather drink almond milk than this stuff.
 
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It lasts as long as normal milk after opening, so unless you're just buying it to store it on a shelf you're gonna have the same amount of waste as regular milk. And the energy savings aren't there unless milk is the one and only reason why you have a fridge.

Personally I'd rather drink almond milk than this stuff.

Refrigeration in terms of the supermarket not needing to store milk 24/7 in their own refrigerators.
Also almond milk is awesome. All of the "benefits" of milk, at half the calories. Unsweetened is even better at 1/4 of the calories.
 

Train

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Refrigeration in terms of the supermarket not needing to store milk 24/7 in their own refrigerators.
Also almond milk is awesome. All of the "benefits" of milk, at half the calories. Unsweetened is even better.

You're just transferring the refrigeration cost to yourself.

When I bring home a cold gallon of milk, my fridge has to use little no no energy keeping it cold before use. It would expend quite a bit of energy taking a gallon from room temp to cold.

And trust me, UHT milk warm tastes like shit.
 

phucheneh

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We get this in the US Army all the time. Most people have demonized it, but it's fine with me.

If this is the same as the Army milk, I should probably warn anyone that doesn't know:

This stuff tastes like crap that has been shit out the asshole of a dick in a pile of garbage that someone has pissed on.
 

maxi007

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Yeah its like army milk , but americans should eat ?? lol if they get freash milk why they try pasteurized ??
 
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There's some fast food chain in the US that sells some milk that's processed differently. I know some people rave about it but I don't know, seems to be the opposite of whatever crap the OP is pushing. It's normal milk but it's slow processed or, something about they process it vertically or something that let's them pasteurize it differently and it helps it retain more of the flavor and nutrients. Even the skim version is supposed to be pretty good and comparable in flavor to like 2% normal grocery store milk. I've never tasted it myself so I can't speak to their claims.

http://www.braums.com/fresh-market/dairy/milk/

Er, OP if you're that concerned with shelf life why aren't you buying powdered or condensed milk or crap like that?
 
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SOFTengCOMPelec

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Errrrr... You know what the UHT stands for don't you?

Hint: You posted it in your OP

He (Mai72) is actually right, here. As I understand it, the pressure/temperature are very carefully controlled and timed, so as to NOT overly heat the milk in a "cooking" sense, and just destroy/hinder the bacteria.

In the UK, we see both, what we call long life milk (UHT) and fresh milk, readily for sale in supermarkets. Judging by the size of the shelving, they both sell in big quantities, with probably the fresh stuff overtaking the UHT stuff.

I like the taste of both, with a tiny preference of the fresh stuff.

Some bodies of thought believe that the UHT stuff, has reduced nutritional benefits, due to the heat treatment. But I think those beliefs are controversial.

If you only go shopping every 2 weeks, then the long life milk (6 to 9 months, shelf life), and no need to refrigerate it, until it is open, make it popular, for some people.

EDIT:
tl;dr
Although UHT does indeed heat up the milk, it is done very precisely and quickly, to avoid/minimise damaging the nutrients/taste of the milk too much.
 
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WelshBloke

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He (Mai72) is actually right, here. As I understand it, the pressure/temperature are very carefully controlled and timed, so as to NOT overly heat the milk in a "cooking" sense, and just destroy/hinder the bacteria.

In the UK, we see both, what we call long life milk (UHT) and fresh milk, readily for sale in supermarkets. Judging by the size of the shelving, they both sell in big quantities, with probably the fresh stuff overtaking the UHT stuff.

I like the taste of both, with a tiny preference of the fresh stuff.

Some bodies of thought believe that the UHT stuff, has reduced nutritional benefits, due to the heat treatment. But I think those beliefs are controversial.

If you only go shopping every 2 weeks, then the long life milk (6 to 9 months, shelf life), and no need to refrigerate it, until it is open, make it popular, for some people.

EDIT:
tl;dr
Although UHT does indeed heat up the milk, it is done very precisely and quickly, to avoid/minimise damaging the nutrients/taste of the milk too much.

They heat it to well above boiling temperature and, IMHO, it tastes awful.

We can get it in the UK but it's not very popular, it is much more popular in the hotter parts of Europe though.