Americans do not want a leftist nation

[Medellon]

This election was won by the democrats simply because of people's dislike of Bush, the handling of the Iraqi War, and recent scandals. The democrats provided no agenda nor plan on what they are going to do to better this country. Their platform was basically, "We are not Bush and if you dislike him, vote for us." I don't think the democrats realize that the majority of people in this country don't want a leftist nation with liberal values, they just wanted to weaken Bush. Unfortunately, they now will have to live with their choice.

Uninformed opinion huh? Too bad Newsweek backs up my "opinion" only they needed 4 days to figure it out. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15667442/site/newsweek/

 

[Specop 007]

The Dems just wish we had never been formed, but were instead still under Britian rule. High taxes if you make money, free living if you dont. Nanny state etc etc.

Seems to me Britian would be the perfect place for the Dems, or maybe Canada.

And I dont mean that in the sense of "Get out you stinkin Dems!", but truly I think Canada or Britian have a social model favored by the Dems. More government, more socialized services, higher tax rates.

Which is unfortunate, because we fought pretty hard to NOT follow that road.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Medellon
This election was won by the democrats simply because of people's dislike of Bush, the handling of the Iraqi War, and recent scandals. The democrats provided no agenda nor plan on what they are going to do to better this country. Their platform was basically, "We are not Bush and if you dislike him, vote for us." I don't think the democrats realize that the majority of people in this country don't want a leftist nation with liberal values, they just wanted to weaken Bush. Unfortunately, they now will have to live with their choice.

Thanks for your uninformed opinion. :thumbsdown: :roll: :thumbsdown:

 

[mfs378]

Republicans had their chance and wasted it. They went down in flames and have no one to blame but themselves. This election was not a choice of ideas or ideology. It was a choice between the incompetent and corrupt and some fresh blood, and common sense prevailed.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Medellon
This election was won by the democrats simply because of people's dislike of Bush, the handling of the Iraqi War, and recent scandals.

The democrats provided no agenda nor plan on what they are going to do to better this country.

Their platform was basically, "We are not Bush and if you dislike him, vote for us." I don't think the democrats realize that the majority of people in this country don't want a leftist nation with liberal values, they just wanted to weaken Bush. Unfortunately, they now will have to live with their choice.

Awwwwwwwwwwww Here's your well deserved

 

[Medellon]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Medellon
This election was won by the democrats simply because of people's dislike of Bush, the handling of the Iraqi War, and recent scandals. The democrats provided no agenda nor plan on what they are going to do to better this country. Their platform was basically, "We are not Bush and if you dislike him, vote for us." I don't think the democrats realize that the majority of people in this country don't want a leftist nation with liberal values, they just wanted to weaken Bush. Unfortunately, they now will have to live with their choice.

Thanks for your uninformed opinion. :thumbsdown: :roll: :thumbsdown:

Really, prove to me that I'm wrong then.

 

[dahunan]

Prove yourself right

DEFINE AMERICAN

I do NOT want to be known as a Religious Nation .. now what?

 

[Medellon]

Who said anything about religion? But just to refresh your memory, this country was founded on Christian principles.

 

[Wapp]

What's with this whole "OMG THE DEMS ARE GOING TO MAKE US ALL HIPPY LIBERALS" state of mind? The dems that were elected aren't super leftists. Look at Jim Webb, the dude is a former republican with moderate ideals. I don't see him voting with crazy liberal, tax raising bills. So just chill out and stop jumping to conclusions.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: mfs378
Republicans had their chance and wasted it. They went down in flames and have no one to blame but themselves. This election was not a choice of ideas or ideology. It was a choice between the incompetent and corrupt and some fresh blood, and common sense prevailed.

This is very true. The Dems didnt win on ideals and plans. The Retards just lost based on lack of performance.

 

[mfs378]

Show me Christian in the constitution. I can show you where it talks about keeping religion out of the government.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: mfs378
Show me Christian in the constitution. I can show you where it talks about keeping religion out of the government.

But here in Colorado they can shove religion up your ass and meth in their nose and still tell you how the fvck you should live your life

 

[Medellon]

Originally posted by: mfs378
Show me Christian in the constitution. I can show you where it talks about keeping religion out of the government.

I'm not getting into the whole separation of Church and State debate. But you are right, the Founding Fathers were a bunch of atheists.

 

[theeedude]

Democrats won. There are consequences to elections.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: mfs378
Show me Christian in the constitution. I can show you where it talks about keeping religion out of the government.

But here in Colorado they can shove religion up your ass and meth in their nose and still tell you how the fvck you should live your life

Don't forget while playing with Gay prostitutes behind your wife and Congregations's back.

 

[Medellon]

So the guy's a hypocrite and what he did was wrong. It is unfortunate that you relish in the misery and misfortune of others.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Medellon
So the guy's a hypocrite and what he did was wrong.

It is unfortunate that you relish in the misery and misfortune of others.

Nothing "unfortunate" about your hero's pushing how to hate Gays but yet love's Gays himself.

If he is in "misery" now that's his own damn fault.

Besides what's the big deal, God will forgive him, right?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Medellon
But just to refresh your memory, this country was founded on Christian principles.

Just to give your failing memory a jolt, I call BULLSH8!

In 1808, Thomas Jefferson wrote in his famous letter to the Danbury Baptist Association][/l]:

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state.

As a matter of fact, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, contained in the Bill of Rights, including the Constitutional protection of religious freedom and freedom of speech, guarantee American citizens the explicit right to violate several of the Ten Commandments, including allowing people to worship various gods, allowing them to make and worship graven images, and to take the name of your deity (or any other) in vain.

Your so-called "Christian" principles are not unique to Christianity. The same principles of civil societal behavior are, in fact, common to many societies, not all of which derive from Judeo-Christian history. The same principles work just as well as rules to maintain peaceful order, equity and civility among human beings with no requirement for enforcement by any supernatural deity.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Wapp
What's with this whole "OMG THE DEMS ARE GOING TO MAKE US ALL HIPPY LIBERALS" state of mind? The dems that were elected aren't super leftists. Look at Jim Webb, the dude is a former republican with moderate ideals. I don't see him voting with crazy liberal, tax raising bills. So just chill out and stop jumping to conclusions.

The true test is yet to come. I wouldnt be suprised if alot of them "Do as their told" and vote yes on far left bills and proposals simply because thats the parties direction.

I *hope* not. I really dont have a problem with middle of the road guys from either party. Its the far left leaning politicians that scare the holy bejesus out of me. I can handle most of the far right leaning ones simply because I'm a Republican myself. But I dont necesarily disagree with the ideas of a moderate leftiest either.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: Medellon
This election was won by the democrats simply because of people's dislike of Bush, the handling of the Iraqi War, and recent scandals. The democrats provided no agenda nor plan on what they are going to do to better this country. Their platform was basically, "We are not Bush and if you dislike him, vote for us." I don't think the democrats realize that the majority of people in this country don't want a leftist nation with liberal values, they just wanted to weaken Bush. Unfortunately, they now will have to live with their choice.

Yeah, so sorry we didn't reelect your buddies whose only accomplishment was sitting around with their thumbs up their fat asses. :roll:

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
The Dems just wish we had never been formed, but were instead still under Britian rule. High taxes if you make money, free living if you dont. Nanny state etc etc.

Seems to me Britian would be the perfect place for the Dems, or maybe Canada.

And I dont mean that in the sense of "Get out you stinkin Dems!", but truly I think Canada or Britian have a social model favored by the Dems. More government, more socialized services, higher tax rates.

Which is unfortunate, because we fought pretty hard to NOT follow that road.

Boy, your knowledge of history is both limited and warped. If you really think that's what the American Revolution was about, I suggest you read "1776," among many other things.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Medellon
This election was won by the democrats simply because of people's dislike of Bush, the handling of the Iraqi War, and recent scandals. The democrats provided no agenda nor plan on what they are going to do to better this country. Their platform was basically, "We are not Bush and if you dislike him, vote for us." I don't think the democrats realize that the majority of people in this country don't want a leftist nation with liberal values, they just wanted to weaken Bush. Unfortunately, they now will have to live with their choice.

If the dems fvck up the country like the GOP has the past few years, then we can vote them out, too. I guess we just have to keep going and going until we get the right people in there, regardless of party affiliation.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Medellon
Really, prove to me that I'm wrong then.

Ok, how many wrong items do I need to prove?

Originally posted by: Medellon
The democrats provided no agenda nor plan on what they are going to do to better this country.

Oh the contrary, See this article dated BEFORE the election with an agenda and a plan? Hmm, right there, your whole basis is wrong. Oh look, an agenda.
Another thing you wrote:

Originally posted by: Medellon
I don't think the democrats realize that the majority of people in this country don't want a leftist nation with liberal values, they just wanted to weaken Bush.

What do the exit polls say? Lets see the last 2 paragraphs of page 3.
[*]31% voted against Bush,
[*]17% voted in support of Bush,
[*]50+% said Bush wasn't a factor.

Hmmm, you said the people simply wanted to weaken Bush, yet the majority said Bush wasn't a factor. That is odd.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Specop 007
The Dems just wish we had never been formed, but were instead still under Britian rule. High taxes if you make money, free living if you dont. Nanny state etc etc.

Seems to me Britian would be the perfect place for the Dems, or maybe Canada.

And I dont mean that in the sense of "Get out you stinkin Dems!", but truly I think Canada or Britian have a social model favored by the Dems. More government, more socialized services, higher tax rates.

Which is unfortunate, because we fought pretty hard to NOT follow that road.

Boy, your knowledge of history is both limited and warped. If you really think that's what the American Revolution was about, I suggest you read "1776," among many other things.

Ah! Once again you bring your incredible knowledge to bear against me.
I admit defeat Oh Mighty Warrior Vet Don. Your right, I'm wrong, long live Democrats.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: Medellon
This election was won by the democrats simply because of people's dislike of Bush, the handling of the Iraqi War, and recent scandals. The democrats provided no agenda nor plan on what they are going to do to better this country. Their platform was basically, "We are not Bush and if you dislike him, vote for us." I don't think the democrats realize that the majority of people in this country don't want a leftist nation with liberal values, they just wanted to weaken Bush. Unfortunately, they now will have to live with their choice.

If the dems fvck up the country like the GOP has the past few years, then we can vote them out, too. I guess we just have to keep going and going until we get the right people in there, regardless of party affiliation.

I think the "right people" are going to have to come from a third party. Which of course brings its own set of problems.