Americans are stoopid

[Craig234]

If the tea party does anything to see Romney elected, then I'll have nothing further to do with that hallow name.

Mitt Romney is not the Tea Party candidate, if my post was unclear.

Romney is for the 'right-wing corporatists'.

 

[OutHouse]

Great!! We're doomed!!!

Stock up on canned goods now. And guns too...

food, booze, women, gold and guns is all in need to survive the second great depression.

 

[IGBT]

You think electing a sell out and a dumb bitch from Alaska would have been better?

we'll never know...We do know that the obama's bloated sense of personal destiny is a sea anchor of destruction for the US.

 

[dmcowen674]

I just had to say that we're all a bunch of morons for repeatedly voting these terrible politicians into office.

Newsflash

The American people do not vote these morons in office, the Corporations do.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I just had to say that we're all a bunch of morons for repeatedly voting these terrible politicians into office. How much money has been destroyed during the last 20 years? The American dream is for all intensive purposes dead.

The worst part is people like you. People that post in these forums throwing mud at each other. You know who you are. You blame one party. The other person blames the other party. You never wake up and smell the roses realizing you're an idiot. Both parties are terrible, doing nothing for you, and simply destroying our future. Stop blaming one party over the next. They're both absolutely terrible.

I wholeheartedly agree that both of our parties are rotten to the core.

However, if we threw them out, what would we replace them with? Half the populace would want laissez-faire capitalism and the other half would want a European-style mixed democratic socialist economy. We'd be at the same spot where we're at now.

 

[RbSX]

Apparently the schooling isn't that great, that is for sure.


Does this thread in any way add to this forum?

I would argue that an overwhelming majority of threads in this section of the forum don't add anything other than rampant mud slinging.

One thing I will say having moved to New York for 3 months is that I was stunned by the rampant ignorance and narcissism of most of the people that I ran into while I was there.

America, unfortunately, has become the running joke of the world along with Spain, Greece and Italy. The country that sold it's soul to China while being too stupid to realize what's going on.

So far as the ass clown that said maybe the OP should move to France.. maybe he should because even with all of their benefits their debt to GDP ratio is stunningly low, and they still have a AAA(-) credit rating which is better than the USA!

 

[RbSX]

I wholeheartedly agree that both of our parties are rotten to the core.

However, if we threw them out, what would we replace them with? Half the populace would want laissez-faire capitalism and the other half would want a European-style mixed democratic socialist economy. We'd be at the same spot where we're at now.

The key is having more than two parties, that way different parts of the political scene can be represented.

How the American political apparatus operates with the expectation that basically everyone can have all of their ideals represented by two (polar) opposite groups I have no idea.

Now sure, there are conservative democrats and liberal republicans, but generally, votes run down along party lines regardless of personal ideals.

 

[RbSX]

That's an over-the-top slur (see bolded below), one that is terribly offensive to many. I see your record, you should know better.

Take a few days off, learn to follow our (few) P&N forum rules.

Fern
Super Moderator

we'll never know...We do know that the obama's bloated sense of personal destiny is a sea anchor of destruction for the US.

Yeah we do know actually, the dumb wise and beautiful woman is one of the people that helped star the Tea Party, the group that held a gun to the head of the country that basically resulted in the credit rating downgrade.

My lord.

 

[randomrogue]

As it stands now we generally choose between two candidates who are not qualified to run a 1st world country. Then, the one that spends the most money wins. It's quite silly. I'm not an expert in this field but I think it would be interesting to see who the last candidate was that won but didn't spend the most money. Corporations spoon feed tons of money to candidates who will make them more money and then that candidate wins. It's corrupt.

I like Obama. Most of you probably should. He seems like a nice guy. That however doesn't qualify him to be the President. His leadership skills qualify him for something more along the lines of a School Superintendant. Bush W. was qualified for less. This is why having Palin on the ticket was such a bad idea. The woman would have been next in line to the Presidency but had no skills whatsoever to be one. Ask yourself, and be honest, whether you think Obama (or insert politician here) would be qualified to be your boss at work. Generally speaking the answer is no. If they can't manage a business how are we to expect them to run our country? If employees did what Congress just did they would all be fired.

This is of course my opinion. Some of you might think that charisma is enough to be the leader of the land.

It's not just about the President though. After all you are electing an administration. It's about Congress and more so. They're the real failures here. It seems like all our politicians do today is work towards being reelected and all too often that hurts our country.

I propose term limits on Congress, compulsory voting, state funded elections, and that the American people stop feeding into this idea that you have to vote against a candidate. If the election doesn't have a decent candidate in it then something is clearly wrong. All the good ones want nothing to do with the playground antics, corruption, and destructive cycle that politics is today.

 

[RbSX]

As it stands now we generally choose between two candidates who are not qualified to run a 1st world country. Then, the one that spends the most money wins. It's quite silly. I'm not an expert in this field but I think it would be interesting to see who the last candidate was that won but didn't spend the most money. Corporations spoon feed tons of money to candidates who will make them more money and then that candidate wins. It's corrupt.

I like Obama. Most of you probably should. He seems like a nice guy. That however doesn't qualify him to be the President. His leadership skills qualify him for something more along the lines of a School Superintendant. Bush W. was qualified for less. This is why having Palin on the ticket was such a bad idea. The woman would have been next in line to the Presidency but had no skills whatsoever to be one. Ask yourself, and be honest, whether you think Obama (or insert politician here) would be qualified to be your boss at work. Generally speaking the answer is no. If they can't manage a business how are we to expect them to run our country? If employees did what Congress just did they would all be fired.

This is of course my opinion. Some of you might think that charisma is enough to be the leader of the land.

It's not just about the President though. After all you are electing an administration. It's about Congress and more so. They're the real failures here. It seems like all our politicians do today is work towards being reelected and all too often that hurts our country.

I propose term limits on Congress, compulsory voting, state funded elections, and that the American people stop feeding into this idea that you have to vote against a candidate. If the election doesn't have a decent candidate in it then something is clearly wrong. All the good ones want nothing to do with the playground antics, corruption, and destructive cycle that politics is today.

To that end, I watched this really interesting clip on youtube about how 43% of sitting congress men list their background as 'Law', where are the engineers, business people, scientists or teachers?

The problem is their backgrounds, many of them have no ability to lead, and law is more about technicalities and arguing better than the other guy or bickering rather than making a tough decision, as a result most US politicians are really qualified to be a solid leader.

 

[gingermeggs]

Foreigners are just as dumb as Americans. It's laughable to see Europeans or Canadians take potshots at the current US predicament. The US and all Western countries including Japan area in the same position. Racing third world countries to the bottom means that they can no longer sustain their first world lifestyles. Some countries might have a little less income inequality or more social welfare than others but it's the same dynamics.

So whats the the solution then?

I believe the third world is meeting "US" in the middle. Hopeful you/me/we direct our anger at the corrupt rich and don't sucker for another big world war.
Maybe Marx was right after all.

 

[RbSX]

Foreigners are just as dumb as Americans. It's laughable to see Europeans or Canadians take potshots at the current US predicament. The US and all Western countries including Japan area in the same position. Racing third world countries to the bottom means that they can no longer sustain their first world lifestyles. Some countries might have a little less income inequality or more social welfare than others but it's the same dynamics.

Well you're an idiot, because Western countries doesn't include Japan, further more Japan has been in this position for 20 years. Their debt is something like 220% of GDP.

The view from America's hat is pretty nice right now, and many other countries including Australia and Brazil for example are doing just fine, even France for that matter has a good debt to GDP ratio (compared to the USA).

Not everyone is guilty of spending money they don't have like you Americans.

 

[gingermeggs]

food, booze, women, gold and guns is all in need to survive the second great depression.

Without community spirit you won't have any of them in your possession for very long.
The good thing that come from hard times is how it unifies ordinary people, who learn what life's really all about- togetherness, compromise and adaptation for survival.

 

[Infohawk]

So whats the the solution then?

I believe the third world is meeting "US" in the middle. Hopeful you/me/we direct our anger at the corrupt rich and don't sucker for another big world war.
Maybe Marx was right after all.

The solution for the West is tariffs on third-world countries. The solution for the third world is to develop their internal markets first.

 

[Infohawk]

Well you're an idiot, because Western countries doesn't include Japan, further more Japan has been in this position for 20 years. Their debt is something like 220% of GDP.

The view from America's hat is pretty nice right now, and many other countries including Australia and Brazil for example are doing just fine, even France for that matter has a good debt to GDP ratio (compared to the USA).

Not everyone is guilty of spending money they don't have like you Americans.

Japan has been heavily influenced by the West and is basically part of a larger Western society at this point in my opinion. But if you want to be a dickhead about it (and apparently you do since you lead off your post with a personal insult) then replace "Western" with "developed." Brazil is not a first-world country. Australia is doing well because of its natural resources and small population (like Norway). France has the same budget issues most countries are having. People there are constantly protesting government cuts.

 

[RbSX]

Japan has been heavily influenced by the West and is basically part of a larger Western society at this point in my opinion. But if you want to be a dickhead about it (and apparently you do since you lead off your post with a personal insult) then replace "Western" with "developed." Brazil is not a first-world country. Australia is doing well because of its natural resources and small population (like Norway). France has the same budget issues most countries are having. People there are constantly protesting government cuts.

No, people there are protesting cuts to entitlements that are excessive and make the country uncompetitive, that being said, with all the entitlements they have they're still.. somehow, in better shape than you guys.

 

[gingermeggs]

Well you're an idiot, because Western countries doesn't include Japan, further more Japan has been in this position for 20 years. Their debt is something like 220% of GDP.

The view from America's hat is pretty nice right now, and many other countries including Australia and Brazil for example are doing just fine, even France for that matter has a good debt to GDP ratio.

Not everyone is guilty of spending money they don't have like you Americans.

130% actually
They make some of the most finest tolerance engineering equipment in the world. Their product will be sadly missed when their down the toilet- but the whales will love it!
USA is at 76% of GDP(probably understated) so the USA is gone too- unless they start a proper war(at lest a billion dead) and "eliminate the debt" creating more room for new growth, like cutting back a hedge in a garden.

Smart cookies move to Canada or Australia quickly before they shut the door on immigration- countries with real asset wealth in natural resources- Clever people those British, they knew what land to hold onto with a limited military capability, uncanny how they knew what countries had the most.
Obviously they wouldn't try to invade Czarist Russia at the time, too useful as an ally and too strong as an enemy.

1.Canada
2.Russia (held territories)
3.Australia

Debt holder countries will now slowly more to other currencies- ones who have resources or manufacturing capability.

 

[Infohawk]

No, people there are protesting cuts to entitlements that are excessive and make the country uncompetitive, that being said, with all the entitlements they have they're still.. somehow, in better shape than you guys.

What stats do you have that show that Europeans are significantly better off than Americans? Sure, there might be more income inequality in the US but the US also has higher income. The US is not identical to these other countries, but there pretty much in the same boat.

Do you really think any western economies are independent of American ones? Do you really think Canada could really survive if the US economy tanked?

It's like juvenile internet posters who whine about American society being violent and crazy and then you see riots in Vancouver and London. I suspect these people are mostly just poorly-traveled people who don't understand what other countries are really like. If they traveled to a third-world country they would actually see what chaos and poverty is.

 

[Infohawk]

Smart cookies move to Canada or Australia quickly before they shut the door on immigration- countries with real asset wealth in natural resources-

By that logic Kuwait is a great place to live too...until a more populous country barges down the door and takes what it needs. It won't be too long until Australia will be unable to defend itself from Chinese pressure. Of course, they'll probably be safe for a long time since they're allies with more populous western countries like the US.

 

[ch33kym0use]

They're not stoopid they're "Somewhat challenged intellectually".

 

[gingermeggs]

The solution for the West is tariffs on third-world countries. The solution for the third world is to develop their internal markets first.

That would of worked 30 years ago, but now you just don't make enough of your vitals to do that- you don't have the natural resource or the productive capacity.
The Usa has relied on being the world reserve currency to subsidize it's consumption and they don't trust you anymore- maybe another option is an internal upheaval in the USA and trials of the rich corrupt corporates with possible executions for some of the worst cases(Rutert Mudick, danald runsfled and dock sheney....to name a few), I think that is the best solution personally, it would create a real sense of justice again.

 

[Infohawk]

That would of worked 30 years ago, but now you just don't make enough of your vitals to do that- you don't have the natural resource or the productive capacity.

Do you have any evidence for that? The US is a continent. I'm not advocating tariffs on other developed countries or with OPEC countries so there would be plenty of resources.

Sounds like your solution is for Americans to reduce themselves to third-world standards of living to show some solidarity.

 

[gingermeggs]

By that logic Kuwait is a great place to live too...until a more populous country barges down the door and takes what it needs. It won't be too long until Australia will be unable to defend itself from Chinese pressure. Of course, they'll probably be safe for a long time since they're allies with more populous western countries like the US.

We seem to be going Chinese tonite at a glance- they have a long and sound history in our fine colony- great laundry, hookers and opium dens. They are very well mannered and civilly conservative here and are culturally exciting with grand festivals, I kind of prefer them over a say a lady gaga concert!

 

[gingermeggs]

Do you have any evidence for that? The US is a continent. I'm not advocating tariffs on other developed countries or with OPEC countries so there would be plenty of resources.

Sounds like your solution is for Americans to reduce themselves to third-world standards of living to show some solidarity.

I think you've used a great word there- solidarity, now you need to show some.
But for me, our country has always got a bum deal from the USA for our protection- seems the devils we know is worse then the Chinese, they do show real solidarity as that's all they have got, I respect them for it. I would love to see corrupt politicians executed like they do in China.
The racket is up man.

 

[Infohawk]

I kind of prefer them over a say a lady gaga concert!

If you prefer aligning yourself with a corrupt overpopulated dictatorship that's great...