freakflag
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
There are no shades of gray in this war. (Bull, an out and put propagandistic lie) At its conclusion, which God willing (Riiiiiiiiight, God is on our side in the killing) will come soon, we will celebrate the victory of light over darkness (RIIIGHT, the war was about light over darkness. and not a New American Century) War is a nasty, uncivilized, brutal business. But (And here comes the but) with that caveat, it is no exaggeration to boast that U.S. and British forces are now fighting the most humanitarian war in history. (RIIIIIIIIIGHT the killing and deaths of thousands in the insanity of war is a great humanitarian triumph. Not for the dead. Only the insane and detached celebrate a humanitarian war. War is always a symbol and sure sign of human failure.)
Does your ivory tower have a jacuzzi?
Your idealized arguments are so tiresome.
In your lofty utopian society, there is never a need for violence. We all just sit a big circle around the campfire, sing songs, love each other and eat Granola.
Unfortunately for the rest of us who live down here in the muck of reality, it isn't always so simple.
You see, what you fail to realize is, human beings are animals. I do not mean that in the metaphorical sense.
I mean it in the physiological sense. Strip away the paper thin trappings of what we laughingly call "civilization" and we are all just talking monkeys. We (Homo-sapiens) are hard wired for violence as a defense mechanism.
Have you ever been robbed? Beaten up? Threatened?
What was your first instinct? To reach out and hug your attacker? If you say yes, you're a liar. Your first instinct was to reach over and rip his throat out before he could bring harm to you. It's natural. Violence is natural. Everyone (even you Moonbeam) is, to some extent, violent.
So, since we cannot divorce ourselves of that which is instinctual, all we are logically left with are degrees of violence.
The degree of violence that the regime of Saddam Hussein has used to maintain control over the people of Iraq has rarely been paralleled, the methods of which are well documented in these forums and I will not bother to chronical them again.
Allowed to remain unchecked, the cycle of violence could only escalate. With fear as it's primary mechanism of control, it follows that, as discontent and dissent grew among the populace, so would the level of violence necessary to control them. Megalo maniacle dictators do not simply abdicate power. I'm sure even you would have to agree with that.
So, you see, in the real world, sometimes you have to choose between the lesser of two evils.
Our armed forces liberated those people from tyranny and oppression and no amount of second guessing and hateful sarcasm is going to change that.
Is war a failure of mankind? Of course it is.
But is apathy a greater one?