American Haters in the IOC are showing their true colors

[pyonir]

<< If there were a large amount of complaints that the olympics, when based in the US, are becoming too patriotic, and the IOC agreed with them, then yes we shouldn't fly it

A regular US flag would do no? >>


so the olympics are in another country, and that country wants to do something special because of a tragic event, but has no affect on anything that is going on in the olympics then that country is too patriotic and against IOC rules? i would strongly disagree.

(btw NeuroSynapsis, i gave you a 10. i still don't agree with you but you are playing devils advocate and not sinking down to dirty means like some would i.e. name calling)

 

[Cosmo]

this is the second time in six years that the US hosts the olympics. Bet the IOC really, really hate your guts...

 

[glenn1]

U.S. team during 2000 Olympics opening ceremony

Can you see our team lugging the WTC flag around with them for opening ceremonies? A bit large for that, dontcha think?

 

[Jimbo]

<< American Haters? Huh? I'd imagine that the cities that are yet to be awarded the event just once while the U.S. has hosted the game 3 times in the last 20 years might feel that they have been slighted by the IOC. >>



I don't think they do this out of love but instead we happen to give the best bribes. The IOC was getting their palms (and every other part of their bodies) greased by Salt Lake City. They are a fairly corrupt bunch. I say we fly old glory and tell the IOC to get stuffed. They will be back in a few more years when they want more money.

 

[Ns1]

i have no personal feelings on the matter. i can just see where other people are coming from.

my logic is this, the olympics is an international event, not an american event, it shouldn't have an "american" feel to it, which it would if the flag found at the WTC was flying there.

some people might interpret it as "yeah, the olympics are an american event, we're proud to be american, sucks to be you" whatever blah blah blah



<< so the olympics are in another country, and that country wants to do something special because of a tragic event, but has no affect on anything that is going on in the olympics then that country is too patriotic and against IOC rules? i would strongly disagree. >>



so what i'm saying is, if the t's ran a plane into big ben, for example, and the olympics were in london, if there was a flag found @big ben, then it should not be flown at the london olympics

 

[pyonir]

<< U.S. team during 2000 Olympics opening ceremony >>


i don't have any clue what this is supposed to tell us...can you explain?

 

[Hossenfeffer]

I don't see a problem flying any US flag. I see no reason why we would need to fly the one from the WTC.

 

[glenn1]

<< i don't have any clue what this is supposed to tell us...can you explain? >>



Sorry about that, i edited my post so that my point was a bit clearer...

 

[Soulflare]

It probably has a lot more to do with the IOC not wanting to alter the opening ceremonies
a few days prior to the event, rather than American hatred.

I don't know what inspired this "but Canada" bs. The IOC loves Canada so much and hates the
US so much, that it has awarded the Olympics to the U.S. twice in the past 6 years along with
the mismanaged pollution hellhole Athens and even communist China while Toronto keeps losing
and Vancouver/Whistler doesn't stand a chance in hell. (btw not comparing US with Athens or
China)

I doubt the IOC would allow us to use the "confederation flag" that hundreds of rallyers brought
to Montreal as a last ditch attempt to prevent Quebec's exodus if we were hosting the Olympics,
for no other reason than it would be really stupid to have people carrying a flag the size of a tennis
court into the opening ceremonies.

Anyways, for the record, I'd have no problem with the WTC flag being there.

 

[ToBeMe]

Um, it's not exactly the "size of a tennis court" as seen here..........WTC Flag.............

 

[pyonir]

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<< i don't have any clue what this is supposed to tell us...can you explain? >>



Sorry about that, i edited my post so that my point was a bit clearer... >>


what are the dimensions of the WTC flag? is it that much bigger or a different size at all?

 

[Lars]

Just get over it.

 

[gopunk]

I doubt the IOC would allow us to use the "confederation flag" that hundreds of rallyers brought
to Montreal as a last ditch attempt to prevent Quebec's exodus if we were hosting the Olympics,
for no other reason than it would be really stupid to have people carrying a flag the size of a tennis
court into the opening ceremonies.

i doubt it too, but that's quite different from a terrorist attack of that magnitude, wouldn't you say?

as for giving the olympics an american feel, the olympics have always been influenced by the host country. if you don't believe this, just look at the freaking mascots. contrary to what some of you may like to think, there is diversity within the world, and part of what makes the olympics so great, is that you get to gather it in one place. sort of like a sampler, if you will. by stifling diversity, all you're doing is stifling the intended spirit of the games.

 

[Capn]

At first I thought that this was an issue that they weren't allowing us to fly the flag, but this just concerns the flag they march in with no?

If that's the case than I guess I can't find much fault with their decision, all the flags should be the same size.

As far as someone else is arguing that the olympics shouldn't have an american feel, BS. Yes it should, the same way the last summer olympics had an australian feel, and the same way Nagano had a japanese feel.

 

[Tom]

Preventing the carrying of the WTC flag in the opening procession is more political than letting it be used would be.

But what would you expect from the IOC ?

 

[glenn1]

The WTC flag looks to be a 'post flag', the dimensions of which are 8 feet 11 3/8 inches by 17 feet. Pretty darn big for one person to carry, IMHO.

 

[Soulflare]

<< i doubt it too, but that's quite different from a terrorist attack of that magnitude, wouldn't you say? >>



True.

I imagine that the IOC wouldn't prevent that flag from being setup at one of the venues, in the
Olympic village, in the athelete village or having it used in one of the ceremonies for something
other than the athelete march. Uniformity is the big thing with the athelete march.

 

[ToBeMe]

<<

<< i doubt it too, but that's quite different from a terrorist attack of that magnitude, wouldn't you say? >>



True.

I imagine that the IOC wouldn't prevent that flag from being setup at one of the venues, in the
Olympic village, in the athelete village or having it used in one of the ceremonies for something
other than the athelete march. Uniformity is the big thing with the athelete march. >>


Um read people.........It IS going to be the Official Flag in the Stadium during the Olympics...........



<< << Instead, it will be raised next to the Olympic flame during Friday night's opening ceremony at Rice-Eccles Stadium, serving as the official U.S. flag. >> >>

 

[Martin]

<< The WTC flag looks to be a 'post flag', the dimensions of which are 8 feet 11 3/8 inches by 17 feet. Pretty darn big for one person to carry, IMHO. >>




I agree. That thing is HUGE.

You need at least 4 ppl to carry that, or one person in a pickup.

The one at the normal olympics doesn't look bigger than 3' by 5', which is more proper.

 

[SuperTool]

I think it's a very good call by IOC.
Olympics are not supposed to be politicized. Sure it's a minor thing, but you let people make statements with flags, and before you know it, they are going to make it with their uniforms, and incite passions beyond just sportsmanship. It raises the stakes, like the olympic athletes are somehow letting down the victims of 9/11 if they lose. It puts unnecessary pressure boyond what is already there. How would you feel if Vietnamese brought in a flag they used during the vietnam war with bulletholes and what not? Would you consider it a political statement? In olympics, you make statements with sportsmanship, not symbolism.

 

[CocaCola5]

If the flag aren't of the same size of the other countries than their decision can't really be argued.

 

[gopunk]

How would you feel if Vietnamese brought in a flag they used during the vietnam war with bulletholes and what not?

so tell me, how many terrorists are competing in the olympics? are they considered a nation even?

 

[crypticlogin]

<< In olympics, you make statements with sportsmanship, not symbolism. >>



Not...
... always (not symbolism, per say...)

These two events stand in my mind stronger than the names, athletic achievement, or medals that were involved.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Anybody tried slipping one of these IOC guys a twenty. Bribery seems to be something these guys are for. Just a thought.

 

[Martin]

<< Anybody tried slipping one of these IOC guys a twenty. Bribery seems to be something these guys are for. Just a thought. >>




Someone must have slipped them more than a twenty...

atlanta 96
salt lake 04

the IOC must really really hate you guys.