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America the greatest nation?
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cmdrmoocow
Golden Member
Yes, we have issues, but visit a few other countries and you'll soon miss home.
You make some good points but from reading the article on IQ I don't see what your problem is, afaik IQ is more of something your born with and can't do much about and when your only 2 points under the average that isn't horrible, you do the best with the hand your delt(also I'm sure we could hit 100 if there wasn't miss south carolina), and also the article on poverty refers to the national poverty lines(I don't think that China would have on 4% under the poverty line by our standards and we beat the UK by 5%) which are determined by each country. Finally what you say about military spending is probably true but you should also compare military strengh, when you say we spend more than all of Europe you have to take into account that we could probably defeat their combined armies/navies/airforces (nothing is ever certain in war but in most senarios I could see the US as the victor) Yeah America is not perfect but it still is a damn fine country and I would rather die for it than live any where else(plus what would be the fun in it if we dominated at everything)
0roo0roo
No Lifer
all depends on how you measure it. it can be tweaked until you get the result you want. sure some places are "nicer" by some standards, but if sh*t goes down somewhere else in the world and an intevention is called for what do they have? some of those places don't even have a single aircraft carrier. so it depends on how you measure greatness.
glutenberg
Golden Member
Hey, good thing the Founding Fathers didn't leave when they didn't like the system. I'm sure there were plenty of Nationalists who felt that they should just leave if they didn't like it. There's always room to improve. Were some of you coddled throughout life? You seem to have such a difficult time with criticism.
glutenberg
Golden Member
The problem is, alot of countries have produced alot of the world's greatest inventions. Modern inventions didn't come about withiout previous inventions, which should be obvious.
CPA
Elite Member
Here is a list of United States inventions. for the poster calling for them previously.
glutenberg
Golden Member
Looks good. Definitely a country of major contributions.
ProfJohn
Lifer
Compare our ?slimy? stuff to that of Europe and get back to me.
You can trace the problems in the Middle East to European colonialism.
You can trace half the problems in Africa to European colonialism.
Find for me another country that has had a more positive influence on the world that the US.
glutenberg
Golden Member
Huh? Are you saying they left England for English colonies ruled by the English for a reason? They were detractors from the norm of English rule.
Born2bwire
Diamond Member
I'd like to thank your parents for immigrating and raising the average IQ here (I hope).
Pepsi90919
Lifer
no
All that matters:
1. I can drink when ever I damn well please.
2. I can talk sh*t about the president all I want.
3. I can walk around my own house without my under britches on.
4. I enjoy my job.
5. I'm happy.
All the other problems: Don't give a flyin sh!t. What can I do to not use as much gas? I have to drive 40 miles a day. Its too slow for a bus, I can't carpool. It's my only option, and NOT my problem automakers haven't done anything about this. Electricity consumption? Well... we're all on computers right now reading this forum, wanna save energy? Hit the power button and never turn it back on. Welcome to the digital age, don't like it? Go outside then and sit on your front porch for 60 years. It's not our fault, its the choices we are given. If there was clean, cheap source of power, we'd be using it. Our tax dollars should be putting this research into action. Not 200 million to contractors to build a hospital made from dirt in some country that I don't care about.
My personal life shouldn't be stereotyped into thinking that, since I am an American, I am automatically a fat, stupid, lazy, selfish, uneducated human being is just wrong. It's our government who's got this spending budget that's made this country go into a larger debt that I can remember. A war for a cause that still makes no damned sense. When this money could have been put towards things that matter. American's are good people, they're the most generous as well, as we've donated more to the poor and charity organizations than any other country on earth. Our priorities as a country have went in the wrong direction. I however, have little power other than voting to change the direction of this ideology. However... the people I vote for, still can't pass a damned bill to move this country forward. Because I agree now as many others do, our countrie's leader should be removed from power.. before he gets a chance to screw it up some more.
But for the opportunities I'm given. The freedom's (of whats left) that I process, I am greatful. I do think this is the greatest country in the world, but I do not brag about this. It's all a matter of your situation. If you grew up in North Korea, broke out when you were 30 and saw the world for the first time.. you could be calling Afghanistan, or Somalia the best country in the world. But many American's, sadly are arrogant.. and brag about "the best country", but don't know anything about any other countries.
No country is perfect. You can find the best "life expectancy" and the lowest power consumption country in the world.. but do they have Sunday Night Football? Computers? Freedom to talk about what ever they want, when ever they want? Having a beer with a group of friends, grilling out before watching the big game to American's is the same as people on the other side of the world who find the same joy in talking to their neighbor at the end of the day on how the day's events took place. Except with the power of television, it's broadcasted (what American's think) all over the world.
1. I can drink when ever I damn well please.
2. I can talk sh*t about the president all I want.
3. I can walk around my own house without my under britches on.
4. I enjoy my job.
5. I'm happy.
All the other problems: Don't give a flyin sh!t. What can I do to not use as much gas? I have to drive 40 miles a day. Its too slow for a bus, I can't carpool. It's my only option, and NOT my problem automakers haven't done anything about this. Electricity consumption? Well... we're all on computers right now reading this forum, wanna save energy? Hit the power button and never turn it back on. Welcome to the digital age, don't like it? Go outside then and sit on your front porch for 60 years. It's not our fault, its the choices we are given. If there was clean, cheap source of power, we'd be using it. Our tax dollars should be putting this research into action. Not 200 million to contractors to build a hospital made from dirt in some country that I don't care about.
My personal life shouldn't be stereotyped into thinking that, since I am an American, I am automatically a fat, stupid, lazy, selfish, uneducated human being is just wrong. It's our government who's got this spending budget that's made this country go into a larger debt that I can remember. A war for a cause that still makes no damned sense. When this money could have been put towards things that matter. American's are good people, they're the most generous as well, as we've donated more to the poor and charity organizations than any other country on earth. Our priorities as a country have went in the wrong direction. I however, have little power other than voting to change the direction of this ideology. However... the people I vote for, still can't pass a damned bill to move this country forward. Because I agree now as many others do, our countrie's leader should be removed from power.. before he gets a chance to screw it up some more.
But for the opportunities I'm given. The freedom's (of whats left) that I process, I am greatful. I do think this is the greatest country in the world, but I do not brag about this. It's all a matter of your situation. If you grew up in North Korea, broke out when you were 30 and saw the world for the first time.. you could be calling Afghanistan, or Somalia the best country in the world. But many American's, sadly are arrogant.. and brag about "the best country", but don't know anything about any other countries.
No country is perfect. You can find the best "life expectancy" and the lowest power consumption country in the world.. but do they have Sunday Night Football? Computers? Freedom to talk about what ever they want, when ever they want? Having a beer with a group of friends, grilling out before watching the big game to American's is the same as people on the other side of the world who find the same joy in talking to their neighbor at the end of the day on how the day's events took place. Except with the power of television, it's broadcasted (what American's think) all over the world.
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