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[Panino Manino]

Hum... maybe Samsung wants to do more and better things offline in their Galaxies.
They are already the best phone "AI".

 

[Tup3x]

Hum... maybe Samsung wants to do more and better things offline in their Galaxies.
They are already the best phone "AI".

Imo server side AI is pretty pointless. It would be much better if on-device processing would increase.

 

[soresu]

Imo server side AI is pretty pointless. It would be much better if on-device processing would increase.

Thanks but I think on device usefulness peaked at low light photo noise reduction.

 

[Tup3x]

Thanks but I think on device usefulness peaked at low light photo noise reduction.

Not in Samsung's case.

 

[soresu]

Not in Samsung's case.

No that was my opinion.

That's me stating I really don't care for the rest of it, especially if it's in semi regular use when I'm not even using the phone.

 

[Tup3x]

No that was my opinion.

That's me stating I really don't care for the rest of it, especially if it's in semi regular use when I'm not even using the phone.

I meant that Samsung's images are extremely noisy. They aren't really doing anything meaningful on-device.

 

[soresu]

I meant that Samsung's images are extremely noisy. They aren't really doing anything meaningful on-device.

Ah k, I haven't really made much of an effort to check myself.

I know that they make a big noise about their ISOCell sensors, but I think usually Sony's sensors have the upper hand in quality, though you have to go out of your way to find out which any given phone is using.

 

[coercitiv]

I meant that Samsung's images are extremely noisy. They aren't really doing anything meaningful on-device.

It's mostly just gimmicks, like how they use machine learning to detect the moon in pics and introduce details in photos that do not come from the sensor. (more testing on reddit)

 

[Thibsie]

Ah k, I haven't really made much of an effort to check myself.

I know that they make a big noise about their ISOCell sensors, but I think usually Sony's sensors have the upper hand in quality, though you have to go out of your way to find out which any given phone is using.

Sony sensors are good. What manufacturers do with'em though is extremely variable.
Even Sony cameras sometimes produced crap.

 

[Tup3x]

Ah k, I haven't really made much of an effort to check myself.

I know that they make a big noise about their ISOCell sensors, but I think usually Sony's sensors have the upper hand in quality, though you have to go out of your way to find out which any given phone is using.

They'll be using the same sensors for base S26 as S23 (while the main camera isn't exactly the same as S22, in practice it is). Those cameras never were great hardware wise. UW doesn't have AF, tele is garbage pin sized 10MP camera that shoots upscaled images by default. Main camera has poor lense. They could probably achieve better results if they would completely redo their image processing but currently they are far behind everyone.

S23 especially had horrible sharpening yet it did nothing to improve the actual detail. Noise is horrible and there's visible unsharp ring in pretty much every image (especially noticeable if you shoot something like A4 paper).

I got so fed up with Samsung and their lack of progress that just bought vivo X300. Lets just say that the difference in battery life and cameras is not small. Not a fan of importing phones but anyway...

 

[Panino Manino]

I meant that Samsung's images are extremely noisy. They aren't really doing anything meaningful on-device.

Sony sensors are good. What manufacturers do with'em though is extremely variable.
Even Sony cameras sometimes produced crap.

From personal experience, Samsung's sensors are not good. The software has to work extra hard with Samsung sensors (and just like Sony doesn't seem to be able to use it's own sensors right on their Xperias, the same can be said about Samsung). When I switched from a phone with a Samsung sensor to a Sony sensor I got very surprised by the difference in quality.
From what I know OmniVision sensors are on par with Sony, and not both have 200mp sensors for those top dog phones's telephotos, Samsung market share will take a big hit.