"AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - Q&A" source ABT link inside

[blackened23]

:hmm: Your defense of indefensible acts of suspected viral marketing is not what a *normal* user would do, the cloud of suspicion has now drifted over you...:sneaky:...can you account for your whereabouts on the eve of rollo outing himself as FredGamer?

What's that? You can account for your whereabouts? I see then...that's exactly what I'd expect from someone who was guilty! Only a guilty person would have such a handy alibi!

LOL. Its fun to joke about it but the sad thing is you know there is someone out there right now reading my post here and thinking to themselves "yeah, I was thinking the same thing, he's obviously covering for something here, get'em boys!". That makes this a LOL-sigh.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Yeah I agree, these Internet forums are real serious business and it's very dangerous to be posting things like that. It can lead to bannings, infractions, and some really hurt feelings.

The hurt feelings it the real crime here...

 

[Arkadrel]

If I ever need a defense atturney, IDC, whats your going rate?

Youd probably make a good lawyer.

 

[bryanW1995]

Witch hunts wouldn't have such a bad reputation if the witches had been real... Well, that, and if some many non-witches hadn't been burned I guess. Here's a clue:

Rollo: witch
1 or 2 random hardcore amd fanbois: might be a witch
everybody else: not a witch

Throwing shots in the dark are highly unlikely to hit the right target with those odds.

 

[ArchAngel777]

If I ever need a defense atturney, IDC, whats your going rate?

Youd probably make a good lawyer.

US LAW has more to do with plea bargains than anything else. And with the lawyers, it is who you know, not what you know as to whether those plea bargains are options. There is quite the 'buddy buddy' system when you are at the county level.

 

[railven]

Witch hunts wouldn't have such a bad reputation if the witches had been real... Well, that, and if some many non-witches hadn't been burned I guess. Here's a clue:

Rollo: witch
1 or 2 random hardcore amd fanbois: might be a witch
everybody else: not a witch

Throwing shots in the dark are highly unlikely to hit the right target with those odds.

You should tell that to Apoppin. Just because someone works at AMD and posts in a forum, doesn't mean they are writing the most positive glowing things. Sometimes people use this anonmosity thing to write what they really feel - ie telling us all the dirty things going on at their jobs.

Doesn't everyone remember the EA Wife Blog and how it basically changed the working condition for game developers in California. Imagine if she had to disclose her husband's name, rank, and position? Guy had been fired and her probably sued.

 

[dguy6789]

I would like to respectfully disagree with you on the Rollo comment. The AMD "shills", fanbois, or whatever they are, are all very amateurish. Rollo, otoh, was extremely intelligent, professional, and was able to deceive many intelligent people for a long period of time.

Rollo recommended Geforce FX cards for people who made threads asking specifically what video card to get for Half Life 2. He would argue with you to death if you so much as suggested that a Radeon 9700 or 9800 would be better for Half Life 2. He was totally off his rocker. Proper grammar /= intelligent or professional.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Rollo recommended Geforce FX cards for people who made threads asking specifically what video card to get for Half Life 2. He would argue with you to death if you so much as suggested that a Radeon 9700 or 9800 would be better for Half Life 2. He was totally off his rocker. Proper grammar /= intelligent or professional.

Rollo was very intelligent. But he was very unethical. He knew full well that the Geforce FX cards were inferior. We have forum members who emulate his behavior pretty well. But that does not mean they are him; they just learned from him how to push buttons to make people react and overcommit in their replies, thus resulting in bans of said individuals.

Some people are naive and don't really see it for what it is. But those are also the type of people who receive an E-Card from their insurance agent and think someone actually cares for them.

 

[bryanW1995]

US LAW has more to do with plea bargains than anything else. And with the lawyers, it is who you know, not what you know as to whether those plea bargains are options. There is quite the 'buddy buddy' system when you are at the county level.

So true. Just had a customer try to sue my company (not my fault, really, I'm the nice car guy!). My attorney ran into his attorney at the courthouse 3 weeks before our court date, and they settled it (favorably for me of course) with a handshake within 5 minutes.

 

[Madcatatlas]

So true. Just had a customer try to sue my company (not my fault, really, I'm the nice car guy!). My attorney ran into his attorney at the courthouse 3 weeks before our court date, and they settled it (favorably for me of course) with a handshake within 5 minutes.

Im sure thats the whole story.

And besides, whats with detailing your life for all to see? Exciting stuff

 

[bryanW1995]

1. My story was relevant to the post that I quoted.
2. I used self-deprecating humor to clearly indicate that there was more to the story
3. I contributed something (albeit not very much) to a discussion at hand.

Please don't call me out when you have no reason for doing so.

 

[Creig]

LOL! Looks like Rollo is up to his usual pastime of AMD bashing. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's still being paid by Nvidia. Nobody goes to this much trouble without some sort of incentive.

Heck, he even paid for subscriber status at ArsTechnica just so he could post it in the Lounge section! Not that it did him much good as he was openly ridiculed until he finally quit trying.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...lth-viral-marketers+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1166840

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1166801

http://forums.firingsquad.com/t5/Ha...loyees-and-stealth-viral-marketers/m-p/440962

http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=79961

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/video-cards/51285-amd-employees-stealth-viral-marketers.html

http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=133919&view=previous

http://forum.elitebastards.com/viewtopic.php?t=29110&p=337188

 

[Keysplayr]

Oops, forgot wasn't supposed to post here. Sorry IDC.

 

[Grooveriding]

LOL! Looks like Rollo is up to his usual pastime of AMD bashing. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's still being paid by Nvidia. Nobody goes to this much trouble without some sort of incentive.

Heck, he even paid for subscriber status at ArsTechnica just so he could post it in the Lounge section! Not that it did him much good as he was openly ridiculed until he finally quit trying.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...lth-viral-marketers+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1166840

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1166801

http://forums.firingsquad.com/t5/Ha...loyees-and-stealth-viral-marketers/m-p/440962

http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=79961

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/video-cards/51285-amd-employees-stealth-viral-marketers.html

http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=133919&view=previous

http://forum.elitebastards.com/viewtopic.php?t=29110&p=337188

LOL. What a nutjob.

Well at least one positive came of this thread, a solid reminder that nvidia is the only one proven and known to use viral marketing in tech forums. Making use of nuts like Rollo in the link above to do it.

 

[lifeblood]

LOL! Looks like Rollo is up to his usual pastime of AMD bashing. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's still being paid by Nvidia. Nobody goes to this much trouble without some sort of incentive.

No, he's not paid by nVidia, he's just not right in the head. He has some serious maturity issues. NV can be shady at times, but even they would shy away from hiring a nutjob like him. His behavior is so offensive it can make people think twice about buying NV products.

 

[railven]

LOL! Looks like Rollo is up to his usual pastime of AMD bashing. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's still being paid by Nvidia. Nobody goes to this much trouble without some sort of incentive.

Heck, he even paid for subscriber status at ArsTechnica just so he could post it in the Lounge section! Not that it did him much good as he was openly ridiculed until he finally quit trying.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...lth-viral-marketers+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1166840

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1166801

http://forums.firingsquad.com/t5/Ha...loyees-and-stealth-viral-marketers/m-p/440962

http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=79961

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/video-cards/51285-amd-employees-stealth-viral-marketers.html

http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=133919&view=previous

http://forum.elitebastards.com/viewtopic.php?t=29110&p=337188

Well you have to give it to nVidia, what better way to get the word out then by using your allegedly "EX" viral marketer?

The irony is so thick in how all this unfolded. Hey, an NFG group member brought it here too? Must be part of the agenda!

:sneaky:TRSUT NO ONE!:sneaky: Except me, of course

 

[sandorski]

Well, either you're stalking him, or you get around just as much as he does. But what would be your incentive? I don't even know how to begin reading that many forums. So, color me impressed that the both of you do.
And FYI, Rollo is no longer in the Focus group.

Would be easy to find.

 

[Creig]

Well, either you're stalking him, or you get around just as much as he does. But what would be your incentive? I don't even know how to begin reading that many forums. So, color me impressed that the both of you do.
And FYI, Rollo is no longer in the Focus group.

My so-called "stalking" involved typing "AMD stealth viral marketing" into Google and clicking on the links that matched. Yep, that was a tough one.

And now that Rollo is no longer a Focus group member, he is no longer bound by their "rule" that he must disclose his affiliation with Nvidia. There's nothing stopping Nvidia from paying him to continue his shilling without having to display anything in a sig.

 

[railven]

And now that Rollo is no longer a Focus group member, he is no longer bound by their "rule" that he must disclose his affiliation with Nvidia. There's nothing stopping Nvidia from paying him to continue his shilling without having to display anything in a sig.

Quick send that to ABT and watch how quickly it will be ignored, no mention of it anywhere, and if an article is promised it would take 3-4 months, and then 5 days to post after being told "it will go up tonight."

Stealth Marketing on the Internet you say? NO WAY! NEVER!

Now my question is - who can shill the best? Marketers - GO!

 

[railven]

Reading the Ars Technica thread is a riot! Man, I wish we had more casual people like that around here. HAHA.

Stay classy ATF!

 

[Creig]

I agree, the Ars thread is definitely the best. They had Rollo spinning in so many directions he had no idea which way was up. I haven't seen that level of ridicule in a LONG time.

 

[ArchAngel777]

My so-called "stalking" involved typing "AMD stealth viral marketing" into Google and clicking on the links that matched. Yep, that was a tough one.

And now that Rollo is no longer a Focus group member, he is no longer bound by their "rule" that he must disclose his affiliation with Nvidia. There's nothing stopping Nvidia from paying him to continue his shilling without having to display anything in a sig.

Notice the 'Rollo is no longer in the Focus group.' but that leaves a lot of room for him to be elsewhere on nVidia's payroll. Those threads were funny.

 

[NIGELG]

Rollo's views whether he is in or out.. equals Nvidia Focus Group's Views equals Nvidia views.

They hate his guts at ABT..or do they?.And now he's quoting ABT?LOL.

Which reputable forum takes him seriously?

 

[railven]

Rollo's views whether he is in or out.. equals Nvidia Focus Group's Views equals Nvidia views.

They hate his guts at ABT..or do they?.And now he's quoting ABT?LOL.

Which reputable forum takes him seriously?

From the few threads I read, they fit into one of the following:
a) no one cared, thus only a handful of posts
b) they attacked Rollo for being an "ex" shill
c) they didn't care and derailed the thread with comical posts (kudos Ars)

And wow, look at this back pedal from the original author:

This is how it works - the playbook. Of course, Nvidia has cleaned it up and made it far more ethical, to their credit.

We can still finish the article here and i still want to ask each major company some key questions; however, i believe our conclusion now is progressing differently from what we may have written in haste a couple of weeks ago and we have a much bigger picture now of the Internet war for your hearts and minds, and (especially) for your pocketbook.

Are you kidding me? He called us, general us, naive for thinking AMD didn't have stealth marketers, and yet he's some how surprised to find out other companies do it!? And he goes on to credit nVidia for being ethical and open about it?

Some how I thought he was really a journalist, I'd mark all this as common sense. So he singled out AMD with his playbook which is nothing more than a recruitment phamplet (guess what I have them too, and I work for a hospital!) and very laughable that he felt he was making a difference only to find out majority of us already sort of have that cynical idea about who to trust (hey nV pioneered it and got caught) and other corporations are doing it.

Yet, we're naive?

 

[MrK6]

Wow, those ars technica threads are great. :awe: