AMD's response to Titan?

[paul878]

So AMD has nothing to counter the GTX Titian?

 

[Grooveriding]

So AMD has nothing to counter the GTX Titian?

$1000 consumer video market is not a big one. What should they do ? Develop a big GPU to fight it out for the .1% (probably less) of the market that is buying them ?

Maybe they will put out an official dual-gpu card.

 

[blackened23]

So AMD has nothing to counter the GTX Titian?

Do they need to? It's a 1000$ card....

 

[amenx]

By the title, I thought there was a response or new card by AMD. Maybe you could fix the title and add a question mark to it?

 

[Ferzerp]

$1000 consumer video market is not a big one. What should they do ? Develop a big GPU to fight it out for the .1% (probably less) of the market that is buying them ?

Maybe they will put out an official dual-gpu card.

The market appears at least as large as what they've manufactured so far. Nvidia can't complain there. Doesn't look like a one time batch either. If you check nowinstock on it, they seem to go in and out of stock daily at least somewhere. Kind of like the 680 did on release.

 

[blastingcap]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titian

Tiziano Vecelli or Tiziano Vecellio (c. 1488/1490[1] – 27 August 1576[2]) known in English as Titian (pron.: /ˈtɪʃən/) was an Italian painter, the most important member of the 16th-century Venetian school. He was born in Pieve di Cadore, near Belluno (in Veneto), in the Republic of Venice. During his lifetime he was often called da Cadore, taken from the place of his birth.

Recognized by his contemporaries as "The Sun Amidst Small Stars" (recalling the famous final line of Dante's Paradiso), Titian was one of the most versatile of Italian painters, equally adept with portraits, landscape backgrounds, and mythological and religious subjects. His painting methods, particularly in the application and use of color, would exercise a profound influence not only on painters of the Italian Renaissance, but on future generations of Western art.[3]

During the course of his long life, Titian's artistic manner changed drastically[4] but he retained a lifelong interest in color. Although his mature works may not contain the vivid, luminous tints of his early pieces, their loose brushwork and subtlety of polychromatic modulations are without precedent in the history of Western art.

 

[notty22]

Where's the clamor for this generation's 375 watt 6990. A dual gpu card to beat the Titan (maybe) and compare against the gtx 690. Lot of criticism about choices made with Titan. I expect those o/c's and hardware enthusiasts would want this card.

 

[chimaxi83]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titian

Tiziano Vecelli or Tiziano Vecellio (c. 1488/1490[1] – 27 August 1576[2]) known in English as Titian (pron.: /ˈtɪʃən/) was an Italian painter, the most important member of the 16th-century Venetian school. He was born in Pieve di Cadore, near Belluno (in Veneto), in the Republic of Venice. During his lifetime he was often called da Cadore, taken from the place of his birth.

Recognized by his contemporaries as "The Sun Amidst Small Stars" (recalling the famous final line of Dante's Paradiso), Titian was one of the most versatile of Italian painters, equally adept with portraits, landscape backgrounds, and mythological and religious subjects. His painting methods, particularly in the application and use of color, would exercise a profound influence not only on painters of the Italian Renaissance, but on future generations of Western art.[3]

During the course of his long life, Titian's artistic manner changed drastically[4] but he retained a lifelong interest in color. Although his mature works may not contain the vivid, luminous tints of his early pieces, their loose brushwork and subtlety of polychromatic modulations are without precedent in the history of Western art.

Lol yeah, I was gonna ask who the hell Titian was... you win

 

[Stuka87]

Where's the clamor for this generation's 375 watt 6990. A dual gpu card to beat the Titan (maybe) and compare against the gtx 690. Lot of criticism about choices made with Titan. I expect those o/c's and hardware enthusiasts would want this card.

You can always go out and get an Ares II.

 

[videogames101]

You can always go out and get an Ares II.

they're getting really hard to find

 

[Rvenger]

I was looking for another 7970 to crossfire with my current one. They are mostly sold out, especially the sub $400 reference blower models.

I guess Titan is doing ok for AMD because you are getting 2nd best for 1/3 of the price I guess.

 

[Tweak155]

By the title, I thought there was a response or new card by AMD. Maybe you could fix the title and add a question mark to it?

This.

 

[Kenmitch]

I doubt AMD gave Titan a second look. After all you can build a complete rig with a 7970 for the price of one anyways.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

I need 2 Titans for SLI, I want ATOT to be smooth as butter. Someone buy them for me.

 

[Attic]

I doubt AMD gave Titan a second look. After all you can build a complete rig with a 7970 for the price of one anyways.

This. I mean I would love to have a Titan or 2! in my rig,... but when 99.5% of folks go out to build a gaming rig or upgrade their video card, they aren't going to seriously consider the Titan due to it's off the charts price.

Looks like what nvidia did was say,.. well $700 is a lot,.. but anyone spending that much for the best will likely be willing to pay more anyways and they simply price gouged the shit out of the Titan.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Although the price of Titan is basically obscene, having such a halo part never hurts. So you can bet if AMD had a viable way to respond they would. Yea yea I know they say their dual GPU card is the competitor but we all know such a card will never be as good as a single GPU beast.

But AMD doesn't have the ability to offset the costs of such a giant piece of silicon like Nvidia does, so we are not going to see a GCN based part with ~7 billion transistors on 28nm.

 

[Ferzerp]

I doubt AMD gave Titan a second look. After all you can build a complete rig with a 7970 for the price of one anyways.

And so far, they're selling every one they manufacture at that price. To me, that says that the price is not too high. If it were too high, no one would buy it.


AMD would be stupid not to be interested in that market segment.

 

[ShintaiDK]

So AMD has nothing to counter the GTX Titian?

You cant make something out of thin air.

 

[Kenmitch]

And so far, they're selling every one they manufacture at that price. To me, that says that the price is not too high. If it were too high, no one would buy it.


AMD would be stupid not to be interested in that market segment.

It's like any new thing that comes out that somebody thinks they can make a buck on it....Buy up the inventory and sell them on eBay, craigslist, forums, etc.

It's a nice card and I'm sure it's gonna be a good seller....But the intitial it's selling like hot cakes is kinda missleading at times.

 

[Ferzerp]

So, your position is that no one is buying them for their PC and the only sales are to ones looking to flip them?

 

[Jimzz]

It's like any new thing that comes out that somebody thinks they can make a buck on it....Buy up the inventory and sell them on eBay, craigslist, forums, etc.

It's a nice card and I'm sure it's gonna be a good seller....But the intitial it's selling like hot cakes is kinda missleading at times.

Not only that but some think Nvidia had piles of these on the market. For all we know there were a couple thousand or only hundreds.

 

[Ferzerp]

Does the volume even enter in to it beyond exactly how much money they're making off it? Assuming it's not being sold at a loss, exactly what scenario is better for nvidia than selling every one made at the initial asking price?

(other than making more of them that is)

 

[Genx87]

If I were AMD. I would be more worried about what this thing will do to my lower end compute cards than what it will do to my GPU sales in the consumer market. 1K for that kind of compute power in that power envelope with that price has to have some researchers getting excited.

 

[Kenmitch]

If I were AMD. I would be more worried about what this thing will do to my lower end compute cards than what it will do to my GPU sales in the consumer market. 1K for that kind of compute power in that power envelope with that price has to have some researchers getting excited.

From the Anandtech article http://www.anandtech.com/show/6760/nvidias-geforce-gtx-titan-part-1/2

As compared to the server and high-end workstation market that Tesla carves out, NVIDIA will be targeting the compute side of Titan towards researchers, engineers, developers, and others who need access to (relatively) cheap FP64 performance, and don’t need the scalability or reliability that Tesla brings. To that end Titan essentially stands alone in NVIDIA’s product stack; the next thing next to a FP64-constrained consumer card is the much more expensive Tesla K20.

Guess it's possible the card could be somewhat short lived, low production if it cuts into there higher margin cards.

 

[-Slacker-]

You cant make something out of thin air.

Both AMD and Nvidia have been releasing new video card series every year since they got into the business. They were also both able to refresh their 40nm lineup in 2011, and AMD managed to beat Nvidia to the market in both 40 and 28 nm chips.

So:

I assume you have a reason to assume AMD would somehow not be able to refresh their 28nm lineup like they did with the 40nm GPUs?