AMD's Phil Rogers jumps ship to Nvidia

Mondozei

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You might read the headline and wonder what it has to do with CPUs, but here it is:

Phil Rogers, a corporate fellow from AMD, has jumped shift to Nvidia to be their new Server Architect for the compute side of things.[...] Phil Rogers is a very well known name in the Industry and is the one of the main guys behind Heterogeneous Computing
So after Jim Keller left it seems AMD's CPU business is still bleeding talent.
 

AtenRa

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Well this is not good, he was behind HSA and Heterogeneous programming.
 
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Probably true, but not really solid information as I read it. First it is WCCF tech and then even they say the original article was pulled. But if true, it would be too bad.

I think AMD kind of missed their opportunity with HSA anyway though. They really needed it to take hold years ago to get a strong foothold in the market and get some commonly used software to better utilize their APUs.
 

ShintaiDK

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Probably true, but not really solid information as I read it. First it is WCCF tech and then even they say the original article was pulled. But if true, it would be too bad.

I think AMD kind of missed their opportunity with HSA anyway though. They really needed it to take hold years ago to get a strong foothold in the market and get some commonly used software to better utilize their APUs.

http://hardocp.com/news/2015/10/13/phil_rogers_amd_fellow_jumps_ship_to_nvidia#.Vh1edDahcuU

We have confirmed this morning that Mr. Rogers is now with NVIDIA, and not in a minuscule role. His new title at NVIDIA is Chief Software Architect - Compute Server. Congratulations Mr. Rogers! While this is not on our usual radar, this is certainly a good move for NVIDIA and not such a good one for AMD. It makes us question what is going on over at AMD nowadays.
 

dark zero

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Hope that Mr. Rogers gives a decent fight against Intel Xeon Phi and nVILINK stands a chance... But I still can't see how much they will resist.

AMD is officially dead and even if Zen appears, they are bound to die. And seems that their GPU might end being bought by one of the big players.
 

ThatBuzzkiller

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Banking their whole future on HSA wasn't exactly a good plan when they are in this predicament ...

Anyways, Xeon Phi is going to destroy whatever IBM or Nvidia is cooking for the HPC market ...

It's good for prototyping, researching, and even potentially for rendering ...
 

NostaSeronx

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NVLink is nothing compared to AMD's "Coherent Data Fabric"... yah. Literally, it is called that. I am not joking look it up.

--Coherent Data Fabric-- // Development started in 2012.
Garlic - Onion - Onion+ successor
{Northbridge + Southbridge + iGPU + dGPUs + xCPU + Memory} Interconnect
Hypertransport protocol; Internal/MCM is pure coherent Hypertransport, External is Hypertransport+PCI Express(Ex: PCI Express slot with HT-Link connection)

HTX-E slot
PCI-E 3.0 Card -> 32 GB/s (Bi-d)
PCI-E 4.0 Card -> 64 GB/s (Bi-d)
HTX-E 1.0 Card -> 80 GB/s (Coherent Bi-d)

--Coherent Systems Fabric-- // Development started 2014.
Freedom Fabric successor
{System + xSystem} Interconnect
Hypershare protocol

Sigh... ideally it shouldn't be called Hypertransport or Hypershare.
 
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Azuma Hazuki

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I was wondering where you'd gotten to :)

But, sad to say, it looks like AMD is being ritually sacrificed here. I really, really hope Zen is awesome, but at the rate things are going even a chip that kicks Skylake's underperforming ass might not save the company.

I swear this feels like a mafia hit in progress...
 
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But, sad to say, it looks like AMD is being ritually sacrificed here. I really, really hope Zen is awesome, but at the rate things are going even a chip that kicks Skylake's underperforming ass might not save the company.
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Yeah, Skylake is under-performing but AMD's efforts in this space have been just fantastic. I guess you will be buying an Excavator-powered APU next year for your next desktop PC?
 

NostaSeronx

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A 17h core will beat a 15h core, but a 17h core will not beat a 15h module.

1C2T(17h) > 1C1T(15h)
1C2T(17h) < 2C2T(15h)
 

Phynaz

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Two cores are faster than one. Who woulda thunk? Thanks for the insight.