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vash

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<< You'll probably have to wait until closer to the end of this year. Most likely Nov/Dec. My guess is that it will come multiplier locked like the current Athlons, but may have bridges under the IHS. Undoubtedly people will be prying that thing off to try... >>

If they are saying the end of the year, then it won't be in consumers hands until next. Hammer sounds like prime Doom3 material to me, maybe we can start a petition to get a version of Doom3 compiled with 64-bit extensions (JohnC always likes new toys, someone at AMD should be donating a few pieces down there). Having 64-bit OS, 64-bit processor and a 64-bit Doom3, with a nice GF4, I'm hoping we can get over 60fps with everything maxxed in that game.

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Akaz1976

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so bandwidth wise Claw Hammer will blow away P4?

I have been holding back on upgrading my P3-700@933 till P4 2.0A is OC'able to 3.33 (i assume by the time they are getting good yeilds of @533 3 gig P4s). Since i prolly wont have th e budget or the inclination to buy latest and the greatest, i am stuck with OCing to compete with the big boys :p. But if Claw is gonna be sooo much better (and with current price structure of AMD) i might be able to fork cash for that.

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Elledan

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Clawhammer and serialATA... mmmm.....

I wonder how many people will upgrade to a Clawhammer/serialATA system once both are available? :)
 

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...I wonder if AMD will have a massive booth @quakecon 2002... I wonder if doom3 tests will be running at select tables...I wonder if doom3 will be compiled to support the 64bit extensions...I wonder if doom3 and hammer will get together in August this year :Q
 

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<< And people used to say AMD is just a follower :) >>



Not trying to flame, but AMD "borrowed" the Integrated Heat Spreader, and the Hammer looks JUST like an Intel Northwood, with the exception of the pin count.

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<< And people used to say AMD is just a follower :) >>

Not trying to flame, but AMD "borrowed" the Integrated Heat Spreader, and the Hammer looks JUST like an Intel Northwood, with the exception of the pin count.

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LOL, is that a joke? I guess you've conveniently forgotten about copper interconnects, SOI, x86-64, and an integrated memory controller.

AMD implemented copper interconnects a full 18-24 months before Intel finally adopted it with Northwood. AMD will have their version of SOI out way before Intel every will. And AMD will have a backwards-compatible 32-bit/64-bit processor out well before Intel ever releases one (if it ever happens at all).
 

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<< <<And people used to say AMD is just a follower >>



Not trying to flame, but AMD "borrowed" the Integrated Heat Spreader, and the Hammer looks JUST like an Intel Northwood, with the exception of the pin count.

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LOL
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staticfly

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This was brought up at aceshardware: The IHS (integrated heat spreader) idea was used on the k6's. I never owned one, so im getting this info by word of mouth. That was not a new idea for Intel or AMD.

Yes, AMD has followed for a long time, but that really started to change with the Athlon. AMD is taking their own route, which is actualy pretty dangerous. But now they have loyalty, and 3rd party chipset companies to back them. Don't get the idea that AMD is going to kill off intel with this. That would be bad for everyone. Not to mention, Intel is huge. They don't only make cpu's. Think about how many things Intel sells. AMD's only hope for becomming THE chip giant is not following Intel.

I hate waiting :).

Oh, lets talk about the Bar of notes on the motherboard. :) WHAT IS AMD THINKING. I hope they talked to their lawers before hand. Intell will HAVE to take action. Thats their trademark AMD is mocking there. :) Comments?
 

SexyK

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<< dudezzzzzzzzzz this rules!!!! >>



Not to rain on anyone's parade, but none of these articles give any impression at all about the performance of these chips. Sure, it's exciting to see working silicon, but until something proves that these are going to be high performace chips (ooohhh two balls bouncing and some MS word scripts! nuts!) ill keep my cash in my pocket. And my expectations in check.

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<< Oh, lets talk about the Bar of notes on the motherboard. :) WHAT IS AMD THINKING. I hope they talked to their lawers before hand. Intell will HAVE to take action. Thats their trademark AMD is mocking there. :) Comments? >>



I noticed that too. If you know how to read music it turns out to be: "DGA" "DGDA" Perhaps a pre-release product code.

About AMD trying to "destroy" Intel, WTF was Sanders thinking?!? They have a license to use Intel's x86 ISA (Instruction Set Architecture)! They have to pay Intel royalties for every processor the produce, thus making it physically impossible to get rid of Intel. Not to mention the chipset makers who have to pay Intel royalties for the Alpha bus the Athlon uses, ever since Intel acquired the Alpha division of Compaq.

You are also right in saying that Intel makes many other products. In fact, they are the #1 producer of Flash Memory. They produce 100% more flash than the top 2 and 3 combined. What are you AMD zealots going to do now? Throw out your phones, PDAs, and Compact Flash cards to attempt to destroy Intel? :) j/k

Just tring to bring topics into the light.

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<< LOL, is that a joke? I guess you've conveniently forgotten about copper interconnects, SOI, x86-64, and an integrated memory controller.

AMD implemented copper interconnects a full 18-24 months before Intel finally adopted it with Northwood. AMD will have their version of SOI out way before Intel every will. And AMD will have a backwards-compatible 32-bit/64-bit processor out well before Intel ever releases one (if it ever happens at all).
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I think this is getting funny. Do you remember who developed SOI? It was IBM, not AMD. AMD did not "invent" anything. They just licensed the technology from IBM. x86-64 is an extention of x86 code, which the originally licensed from Intel. Copper adoption was not any type of inovation on AMD's part, they simply purchased new lithography equipment from a company like Applied Materials. Applied Materials developed copper interconnects, not AMD. To answer your question: "Is this a joke?" The answer is no, it is mearely the truth.

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tsunek

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My dads k6+ or whatever it is has a heatspreader on it. And that came out way before the p4s did so i don't really think you can say that intel had it first.
 

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<< No pre-release product code, it's the tune that intel plays in every ad. :D >>



WOW that is right! It must be some joke, perhaps a subliminal message. :)

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<< Integrated Heat Spreader was AMD's idea.

This is my old AMD K6.
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Want to play like that eh? :)

Please check out pictures of 486 overdrives as well as Pentium. (let me see if I have one handy) They both have an IHS.

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