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ViRGE

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No kidding. I'm not even sure why it's falling now; I think it's crashing for the sake of crashing. At this rate they're going to be in delisting territory soon.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: Gibson486
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Originally posted by: Pacemaker
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Originally posted by: binister
Look at Dell's P/E. Now that's a bargain.

HPQ > Dell.

If you want a good P/E and a lower risk buy CAT. It's under 34 bucks a share currently.

I don't care about P/E. There are much more important statistics to use in picking stocks than P/E.
I also fail to see how CAT is a "lower" risk than HPQ. :confused:

How can it not? CAT is in an industry that is more future proof. HPQ is in an industry that moves in the blink of an eye.

CAT isn't future proof by any means. They have more competition than I can count on my fingers.
Future proofing isn't everything(as you can see by the housing bubble). You also have to look at management.
Mark Hurd wins here.

CAT(like any other financials) is a crazy stock to keep in this market.
Don't expect housing/construction to turn around until Summer '09(if not later than that).

HPQ has proven to me that they can compete. They're the only tech stock worth owning in this(or any) market, period.
Many tech companies including INTC, CSCO, GOOG, and many others have already started feeling the pain in this market. HPQ hasn't yet(but it will happen) because they're a well diversified business. To those who don't know, they do much more than just selling computers and printers.

Last I saw...CAT was in more than just construction. They are also in industrial controls and back up generation.
 

ViRGE

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$1.62; AMD now has a market cap of $985 million.:(
 

NoShangriLa

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
No kidding. I'm not even sure why it's falling now; I think it's crashing for the sake of crashing. At this rate they're going to be in delisting territory soon.
AMD hasn't turn a profit in many quarters.
AMD is way pass its head in debt.
AMD have no cash to weather the rough market for the next 12-18 months.

The only thing that look good for AMD is its graphics branch, but sales is down due to the economic down turn for the next 2 years.


 

Nerva

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AMD's current price is essentially just the option value. Also, there is no near term catalysts for them to shoot the stock back up. You do know your downside though, the stock could go to 0. That is a real likely hood, given they are levered more or less 5 to 1. Haha, I just checked on their debt, they are all trading at extreme distress levels, all busted converts. They are so toast it's not funny. If you are gonna get into AMD, I wouldn't get in on the equity. At this point, the price of the debt will increase first if the company turns around. Could probably short this company to its end.