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NoShangriLa

Golden Member
Sep 3, 2006
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Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: binister
Look at Dell's P/E. Now that's a bargain.

HPQ > Dell.

If you want a good P/E and a lower risk buy CAT. It's under 34 bucks a share currently.

I don't care about P/E. There are much more important statistics to use in picking stocks than P/E.
I also fail to see how CAT is a "lower" risk than HPQ. :confused:
CAT looks good at the moment too, and take a look at how cheap TCK if you are into PE & beta.

The market still too active for my liking. I'm waiting for a few calm days before I pull the trigger on the carcass of the near death companese :)

 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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Who wants to buy AMD? They're down to an excellent price: 1.29Bil.
 

dullard

Elite Member
May 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Who wants to buy AMD? They're down to an excellent price: 1.29Bil.
Even more excellent right now. With the stock price flirting with the sub-$2 range, the market cap is now $1.21B. I wouldn't be too surprised if it goes below $1B by January. AMD's hopes are on a great holiday season. If that doesn't happen, AMD will be basically worthless.
 

Gibson486

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Aug 9, 2000
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What did I tell you guys last time? Everyone was saying AMD was a bargain at $12. Look passed the video card segment (which is porbably ony 5% of the company) and you will see a company that is in dire need of a change. Avoid this stock until they prove they can compete again...I am not talking about videogame performance, I am talking about market performance.
 

Gibson486

Lifer
Aug 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: binister
Look at Dell's P/E. Now that's a bargain.

HPQ > Dell.

If you want a good P/E and a lower risk buy CAT. It's under 34 bucks a share currently.

I don't care about P/E. There are much more important statistics to use in picking stocks than P/E.
I also fail to see how CAT is a "lower" risk than HPQ. :confused:

How can it not? CAT is in an industry that is more future proof. HPQ is in an industry that moves in the blink of an eye.
 

mattlear

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Reminds me of 3dFx... I think I purchased them at 13... then they decided to manufacture their own video cards (instead of concentrating on the chips and selling them to hardware manufacturers like Diamond, Creative, etc). They never could get their manufacturing correct, and they bled money like crazy. Their next high-end Voodoo card kept slipping dates, and eventually wound up as a limited prototype. (the voodoo 6500 I think?)

They went defunct, I believe nVidia bought them for pennies on the dollar and took whatever technology they could use in their cards.

-Matt
 

dullard

Elite Member
May 21, 2001
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Ouch. Down 9.9% today and already down 1.6% more in after hours trading. $1.88 a share.
 

daveshel

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 1999
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I thought it was a bargain a few weeks ago when I bought another 100 shares at about $4. But I'm in it for the long haul and someday my 500 shares will be worth something. I'd buy more now if I had any money left in my brokerage account.
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
Oct 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Who wants to buy AMD? They're down to an excellent price: 1.29Bil.
Even more excellent right now. With the stock price flirting with the sub-$2 range, the market cap is now $1.21B. I wouldn't be too surprised if it goes below $1B by January. AMD's hopes are on a great holiday season. If that doesn't happen, AMD will be basically worthless.

I'm sorry, but I thought the AMD Athlon chips were amazing. Why is Intel kicking butt?
 

wwswimming

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Jan 21, 2006
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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Currently AMD is price @ 2.50 a share.
Text

F P/E: -5.73
Net Profit Margin -35.40%
Operating Margin -29.98%
EBITD Margin -10.23%
Return on Average Assets -20.09%
Return on Average Equity -84.81%

Which is quite close to the delisting mark. Is there anything around the corner to make AMD the comeback kid in the next 6-12 months, or this is a sign that AMD is at the end of its rope?

i thought the de-listing mark was when a company sits below 1 for a certain
period of time, in conjunction with some limit on overall stock market value
of the company.

the problem is, they need smart engineers to design the next gen. of CPU's,
and smart engineers don't work for free. on the other hand, with the stock
price so low, they can afford to give the employees options, and the employees
can afford to buy their own shares in AMD.

between home runs like the 4850 & AMD's attention to "MIPS per watt" -
low power consumption - i think AMD will be around for awhile.
 

NoShangriLa

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Sep 3, 2006
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i thought the de-listing mark was when a company sits below 1 for a certain
period of time, in conjunction with some limit on overall stock market value
of the company.
You are correct, however any stock that drop below $4-$5 is a good indication that the majority of the investors have gave up on the company.

Once the stock drop below $3-4.00 it enter the mentality of penny stock, where logic/strategies no longer apply.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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If AMD survives this Recession, Buyin now will make you Big$$ in time. If not, then you lose. I'd wait a bit, let the Economy begin to recover before considering it.
 

Gibson486

Lifer
Aug 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: manlymatt83
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Who wants to buy AMD? They're down to an excellent price: 1.29Bil.
Even more excellent right now. With the stock price flirting with the sub-$2 range, the market cap is now $1.21B. I wouldn't be too surprised if it goes below $1B by January. AMD's hopes are on a great holiday season. If that doesn't happen, AMD will be basically worthless.

I'm sorry, but I thought the AMD Athlon chips were amazing. Why is Intel kicking butt?

Because processer performance does not equal market performance.
 

Gibson486

Lifer
Aug 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: wwswimming
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Currently AMD is price @ 2.50 a share.
Text

F P/E: -5.73
Net Profit Margin -35.40%
Operating Margin -29.98%
EBITD Margin -10.23%
Return on Average Assets -20.09%
Return on Average Equity -84.81%

Which is quite close to the delisting mark. Is there anything around the corner to make AMD the comeback kid in the next 6-12 months, or this is a sign that AMD is at the end of its rope?

i thought the de-listing mark was when a company sits below 1 for a certain
period of time, in conjunction with some limit on overall stock market value
of the company.

the problem is, they need smart engineers to design the next gen. of CPU's,
and smart engineers don't work for free. on the other hand, with the stock
price so low, they can afford to give the employees options, and the employees
can afford to buy their own shares in AMD.

between home runs like the 4850 & AMD's attention to "MIPS per watt" -
low power consumption - i think AMD will be around for awhile.


No, they need smart marketing people to sell their next gen products. You could make the next best product in the world and still not sell it if you have business people that have no idea what they are doing.
 

imported_Lothar

Diamond Member
Aug 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: binister
Look at Dell's P/E. Now that's a bargain.

HPQ > Dell.

If you want a good P/E and a lower risk buy CAT. It's under 34 bucks a share currently.

I don't care about P/E. There are much more important statistics to use in picking stocks than P/E.
I also fail to see how CAT is a "lower" risk than HPQ. :confused:

How can it not? CAT is in an industry that is more future proof. HPQ is in an industry that moves in the blink of an eye.

CAT isn't future proof by any means. They have more competition than I can count on my fingers.
Future proofing isn't everything(as you can see by the housing bubble). You also have to look at management.
Mark Hurd wins here.

CAT(like any other financials) is a crazy stock to keep in this market.
Don't expect housing/construction to turn around until Summer '09(if not later than that).

HPQ has proven to me that they can compete. They're the only tech stock worth owning in this(or any) market, period.
Many tech companies including INTC, CSCO, GOOG, and many others have already started feeling the pain in this market. HPQ hasn't yet(but it will happen) because they're a well diversified business. To those who don't know, they do much more than just selling computers and printers.
 

Firebot

Golden Member
Jul 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Currently AMD is price @ 2.50 a share.
Text

F P/E: -5.73
Net Profit Margin -35.40%
Operating Margin -29.98%
EBITD Margin -10.23%
Return on Average Assets -20.09%
Return on Average Equity -84.81%

Which is quite close to the delisting mark. Is there anything around the corner to make AMD the comeback kid in the next 6-12 months, or this is a sign that AMD is at the end of its rope?

Time

to

buy

AMD

again

really!
 

imported_Lothar

Diamond Member
Aug 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: Firebot
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Currently AMD is price @ 2.50 a share.
Text

F P/E: -5.73
Net Profit Margin -35.40%
Operating Margin -29.98%
EBITD Margin -10.23%
Return on Average Assets -20.09%
Return on Average Equity -84.81%

Which is quite close to the delisting mark. Is there anything around the corner to make AMD the comeback kid in the next 6-12 months, or this is a sign that AMD is at the end of its rope?

Time

to

buy

AMD

again

really!

:laugh:
 

dullard

Elite Member
May 21, 2001
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Wow. This thing is really tanking. The Nasdaq is up 1% but AMD is down more than 5%. $1.80. It is quite close to a sub $1B market cap.