AMD Vega builders thread - rx 64 & rx 56

[krumme]

I have a Sapphire Vega 64 SE. It is loud and hot under full load under my desk (I know duh), I am now considering going with a liquid version (MSI or Gigabyte) seeing as how it's $569 versus $699 or $130 difference now.

Opinions?

Liquid gives constant a bit of humming from water pump at idle.
If you get the new aib versions you will get like fiji plus 1 db. But heat ends in cabinet.
I depends on your priorities.
I would go for the aib and untill then set max temp at 85c target 80c. And power minus 15% and underclock like 100mv.
All can be done within wattman. Should take care of at least half of the noise at like 5% perf deficit. You might like it as it is then?

 

[nOOky]

The one review of an aib card I read was not impressive at all regarding noise reduction... and you still can't buy when, who knows when.

 

[krumme]

The one review of an aib card I read was not impressive at all regarding noise reduction... and you still can't buy when, who knows when.

Have you tried eg. minus 15% power.
Lower 100mv for core and setting target to 80c?

 

[nOOky]

I have time so I am working on adjusting voltage etc. as suggested to see if it is tolerable.

 

[krumme]

I have time so I am working on adjusting voltage etc. as suggested to see if it is tolerable.

Worked a bit today with my 64 in the standard shroud. Its a damn noisy card vs the rx 56 we have in the house. Even with minus 25% power its hot. I dont know if rx56 uses lower voltage but its far more manageable.

 

[krumme]

My morpheus was gradually making my card unstable to the degree i even cant even get a screen signal. So black screen.
Card is working fine now in standard shroud. But man its noisy and slow due to throtling. Like 25% slower.
Tried booting with and without cooler mouted, with or without cooling for the mosfets. Same black screen.
Any ideas? What to check for and how to proceed?

 

[EXCellR8]

you referring to that massive aftermarket cooler?

I imagine the VEGA cards heat up incredibly fast when not met with a cooler so in that regard a black screen doesn't surprise me. Not sure why the morpheus would be causing it to become unstable unless you were OC'ing and your thermal contact was not adequate on the mosfets. How do those little sinks compare to when they're being cooled with the OE cooler?

 

[krumme]

you referring to that massive aftermarket cooler?

I imagine the VEGA cards heat up incredibly fast when not met with a cooler so in that regard a black screen doesn't surprise me. Not sure why the morpheus would be causing it to become unstable unless you were OC'ing and your thermal contact was not adequate on the mosfets. How do those little sinks compare to when they're being cooled with the OE cooler?

Yes i am referring to the Morpheus.
The OE cooler is better than then small heatsinks. But today i couldnt start my card from cold !, so i actually guess its something else. Very weird.

 

[EXCellR8]

Almost sounds like the card is on its way out then... though I will note that when my Vega turns on it takes awhile for my monitor to show anything with DP... like up to 10 seconds at times, but the mini DP works fine so that might actually be unrelated. It never becomes unstable though to the point where the driver crashes or I lose signal.

Might be able to still take advantage of the warranty, long as the card is in decent shape they're not going to check to see if the original cooler was altered or removed. That costs them time and money so I would at least consider RMA

 

[nOOky]

Worked a bit today with my 64 in the standard shroud. Its a damn noisy card vs the rx 56 we have in the house. Even with minus 25% power its hot. I dont know if rx56 uses lower voltage but its far more manageable.

I got a Vega 64 liquid installed, so far I am much happier with it. About 7% faster benchmarking, quieter, less heat out of the case. The price difference was $140, but I had $100 amazon credit built up which helped. The air cooled Vega is going back. The only thing I might try is some Crossfire just to play around.

 

[krumme]

Almost sounds like the card is on its way out then... though I will note that when my Vega turns on it takes awhile for my monitor to show anything with DP... like up to 10 seconds at times, but the mini DP works fine so that might actually be unrelated. It never becomes unstable though to the point where the driver crashes or I lose signal.

Might be able to still take advantage of the warranty, long as the card is in decent shape they're not going to check to see if the original cooler was altered or removed. That costs them time and money so I would at least consider RMA

Yes thats what thought before i put on the oe cooler and now its running 100% stable. Lol. Dont know. Still think the card is perhaps borked but it works now so what to do..?

I switched a standard rx56 in and out besides the morpeheus rx64 to see if it was something in the cabinet. But the rx56 worked fine.

 

[NatePo717]

I just got my 64 Liquid today. Nothing but problems. Won't detect my freesync monitor as freesync. Constant crashing my pc. Won't detect one of my monitors at all. And ultimately it looks like it fried my power supply (HX750i) as when I power it on now my pc's leds just flash on and off rapidly and I hear a constant clicking sound. I hope it didn't kill my whole computer... Not a good first experience.

 

[krumme]

I just got my 64 Liquid today. Nothing but problems. Won't detect my freesync monitor as freesync. Constant crashing my pc. Won't detect one of my monitors at all. And ultimately it looks like it fried my power supply (HX750i) as when I power it on now my pc's leds just flash on and off rapidly and I hear a constant clicking sound. I hope it didn't kill my whole computer... Not a good first experience.

Return it. I think Amd pushes rx64 to far and it will lead to a high return rate. Not a finished product. I dont think it fried your ps though. A 750 ought to take it plenty. Hmm. Did hou try another gfx?

Mine rx64 couldnt boot at all a handfull of days ago so returned it.

 

[NatePo717]

Return it. I think Amd pushes rx64 to far and it will lead to a high return rate. Not a finished product. I dont think it fried your ps though. A 750 ought to take it plenty. Hmm. Did hou try another gfx?

Mine rx64 couldnt boot at all a handfull of days ago so returned it.

I put in for the return last night. Too much of a headache to deal with. I'll probably go with a 1080Ti instead... But as Amazon has them all at stupid high prices I'll have to wait.

I tried it with my previous GPU and it was doing the same thing. Was doing it with no GPU installed too. I'm going to try a different power supply tonight. Have to pull it from my old system. If that doesn't work something else in my system is hosed.

 

[Despoiler]

I put in for the return last night. Too much of a headache to deal with. I'll probably go with a 1080Ti instead... But as Amazon has them all at stupid high prices I'll have to wait.

I tried it with my previous GPU and it was doing the same thing. Was doing it with no GPU installed too. I'm going to try a different power supply tonight. Have to pull it from my old system. If that doesn't work something else in my system is hosed.

So your PSU is the likely culprit, but you are returning the card because it's the headache?

 

[NatePo717]

So your PSU is the likely culprit, but you are returning the card because it's the headache?

"Won't detect my freesync monitor as freesync. Constant crashing my pc. Won't detect one of my monitors at all."

I was also seeing video corruption on all 3 display port outputs when 3D applications were launched.

I tried a number of the Vega driver releases and had the same issues on all of them.

The card wasn't working correctly to begin with, hence returning it. My PSU dying is just another side effect of the card not working properly.

 

[Despoiler]

"Won't detect my freesync monitor as freesync. Constant crashing my pc. Won't detect one of my monitors at all."

I was also seeing video corruption on all 3 display port outputs when 3D applications were launched.

I tried a number of the Vega driver releases and had the same issues on all of them.

The card wasn't working correctly to begin with, hence returning it. My PSU dying is just another side effect of the card not working properly.

Are you sure your PSU wasn't starting to die before and then died completely? That's actually a likely chain of events. Please explain in exact detail how a GPU can kill a PSU?

 

[EXCellR8]

right now is the WORST time to buy new cards aside from release day. i'd wait until after the holidays now.

 

[TeknoBug]

right now is the WORST time to buy new cards aside from release day. i'd wait until after the holidays now.

Prices are expected to increase after the holidays.

 

[meson2000]

I have been in the market for a Vega 64 for months... I should have pulled the trigger a month ago when newegg had a handful of cards actually at MSRP. But I was hoping the 3rd party designed cards would be arriving soon. Still nothing... I don't understand it. I know the miners are buying everything, but I haven't even seen a listing for any 3rd party Vega cards on amazon or newegg.... Frustrating...

 

[EXCellR8]

Prices are expected to increase after the holidays.

says who?

I have been in the market for a Vega 64 for months... I should have pulled the trigger a month ago when newegg had a handful of cards actually at MSRP. But I was hoping the 3rd party designed cards would be arriving soon. Still nothing... I don't understand it. I know the miners are buying everything, but I haven't even seen a listing for any 3rd party Vega cards on amazon or newegg.... Frustrating...

miners, as awful as they are, aren't buying Vega for the most part. too high cost to run and the low volume means they can't assemble their usual mining arrays. Polaris and the R9 series are much better for it I guess.

I was able to grab my reference 64 a few months back for around MSRP, best offer on ebay for a new one, still sealed. I hated spending the money but so far it's been (mostly) worth it--more so if you consider the relatively low yield of actual Vega GPUs

 

[EXCellR8]

I think my 64 went kaput... opened support ticket with Sapphire. No matter the driver, game or update the card lasts about 10 seconds when rendering 3D and then BAM, black screen and fan spins down. Uh oh's.

 

[krumme]

My 64 card is kaput too. Couldnt rma due to broken seal. Gaa...
Dont know its its cause of the morpheus but kind of doubt it. Ran with standard cooler for a few weeks or so before it went completely dark. No boot.
How would you adress it?
I was thinking of the mosfets?

 

[crashtech]

Wow, so disappointing. I wanted so much for AMD to succeed with Vega. Very reluctantly I have purchased a 1070ti, hopefully AMD can be more competitive in the next round.

 

[EXCellR8]

My 64 card is kaput too. Couldnt rma due to broken seal. Gaa...
Dont know its its cause of the morpheus but kind of doubt it. Ran with standard cooler for a few weeks or so before it went completely dark. No boot.
How would you adress it?
I was thinking of the mosfets?

honestly not sure, but I take great care of all of my cards so if this is something widespread AMD's gonna be in for a real treat if everyone's reference cards start failing less than 6 months in. never any indication of imminent failure either...

I might remove the card from the system and try it in another, just to see what happens but so far everything points to the card itself