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AMD "sells out" of 2800+.....HUH????????

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This isn't looking good for AMD. I hope they pull through because as we know, competition benefits everyone.
 
Meanwhile, AMD had one of its worst days on the stock market for years, after it said it expected poorer sales than expected.
The share price slumped nearly a third to close at $3.63 yesterday afternoon, prompting many analysts to revise their forecasts and also to warn about the liquidity and cash flow of AMD.
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Originally posted by: vetteguy
Another reason for Dell to stay away from AMD is so they keep their alliance with Intel. Undoubtably they get huge discounts and incentives by buying in such quantity and being an exclusively Intel system builder. If they started carrying AMD as well, Intel might up their prices considerably, putting and end to $500 servers and $600 P4 2.4 deals.
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From what I know, it is against the Exclusivity clause of the Anti-Trust laws to give discounts in lieu of the buyer not purchasing competitors products.

NOTE: It must be noted that I'm certainly not an expert at Anti-Trust laws. But from what I understand, the above is true.


 
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Another reason for Dell to stay away from AMD is so they keep their alliance with Intel. Undoubtably they get huge discounts and incentives by buying in such quantity and being an exclusively Intel system builder. If they started carrying AMD as well, Intel might up their prices considerably, putting and end to $500 servers and $600 P4 2.4 deals.
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From what I know, it is against the Exclusivity clause of the Anti-Trust laws to give discounts in lieu of the buyer not purchasing competitors products.

NOTE: It must be noted that I'm certainly not an expert at Anti-Trust laws. But from what I understand, the above is true.
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Um, Yeah . . . sure . . . that must be the reason . . .

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That only matters when one is an established monopoly. Given that AMD has something like 20% marketshare, it would be hard to say that Intel holds a monopoly in the market.

Edit: It could be worse for AMD, they could have had trouble selling whatever limited allotments of 2800+s they had, or had to recall them.
 
AMD is in serious need of a half-decent marketing department. Maybe they could start an "AMD: It's what should be inside" ad campaign.
 
When I went to yahoo's biz page and looked up AMD I started to cry. 3.xx, 3.xx 3.xx 3.xx WTF IS UP WITH 3.XX~!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
 
Originally posted by: CrazySaint
AMD is in serious need of a half-decent marketing department. Maybe they could start an "AMD: It's what should be inside" ad campaign.
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Well, AMD can't just up and get better marketting. The reason why Intel has such great marketting is because they have a great deal more cash to spend on it than AMD.

Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Is it me, or is "Hammer" starting to sound like "Voodoo5 6000?"
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Actually, AMD is starting to sound like BitBoys with vapor announcements 😀
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Comparing them to BitBoys is a bit harsh. Those guys haven't even reached A0 silicon with any product... ever.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but, isn?t this new 2800+ that has been benched now by all the sites, and not technically been released to the public already been discontinued? The article states that new Barton 2800+'s will go on sale Q1 03, not the current thoroughbred like we all thought.

Man that was a short lived part wasn?t it. That means those benchmarks were relatively pointless as they will need to bench the Barton now.
 
Perhaps AMD is constantly trying to redo their stuff to keep ahead of Intel, but they keep changing the design of their unreleased products so frequently that it really slows them down. Any ideas about that brainfart?
 
Originally posted by: jliechty
Perhaps AMD is constantly trying to redo their stuff to keep ahead of Intel, but they keep changing the design of their unreleased products so frequently that it really slows them down. Any ideas about that brainfart?
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That's beginning to sound like Duke Nukem Forever.
 
It says the limite Tbred core 2800's are sold out. Not the Barton core 2800's which is what I want. 🙂
 
I mean, who doesn't know what a "Pentium" is???
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Actually most people I've built for. While they seem to generally know Pentium is a CPU, they think Pentium is a synonym for processor.
 
Originally posted by: lnguyen
Actually most people I've built for. While they seem to generally know Pentium is a CPU, they think Pentium is a synonym for processor.
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And that just proves how powerful intel's marketing is.
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Very True,

But Like other said, just having a big company like Dell behind you, everyone seems to know...
 
I for one think that it's pretty hard to 'sell out' of a processor. Unless yields suck *that* much...

I think all this concern for AMD is unfounded. The whole tech sector is doing really badly at the moment, and investors are punishing the stock prices because of it. There's no reason AMD should be at $3.50 per share. AMD has been around for a loong time. I really don't think they're going anywhere -- sure, it'll be rocky for the next few months, but I believe things will turn around. So much so that I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is (I just put in a buy order for AMD stock).
 
Hey!!loong time since i posted...
anyways,i always thought that Pentium was damn meaning ful...u see in chemical elements (i.e,the Periodic Table),the unknown elements r kinda called like "Un-nil-dium"(102),"un-nil-trium"(103) n so on...so,Pentium would mean>>>>>>>>The FIFTH Element!! coll rite...whow,i'm way too sleepy to be typin dis..hope dat made any kinda sense!!
 
I think Dell should let AMDs stock get lower and then buy enough to get a majoriety if possiable and then sell AMD only. I hope AMD turns out OK in the end. I have faithfully used their chips since the 486 days. I might upgrade in the spring, but I don't really need to.

Will
 
I hate to say it, but I'm really not too enthusiastic about AMD at this point. I mean, I love the fact that they brought competition to a market that has been essentially monopolized since 1985 but I really can't justify the use of products that don't fill my needs. Hammer looks (looked) to be a great chip, but if AMD can't produce it until the 2nd quarter of 03' then it might be too late to fend off competition from Intel. By then the P4 should be scaling past 3Ghz, and if AMD's current PR rating is any indication the 3400+ Hammer will be woefully unequal, even to that.

I've been a strong supporter of AMD for the last few years because their products have been the better buy in nearly every category during that time. That can't really be said today. I do hope that AMD turns their fates around, but if they don't I wouldn't mind seeing them bought out by a company in a better position to compete against Intel. IBM and Texas Instruments comes to mind but who knows...
 
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