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aigomorla

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igor_kavinski said:
At least from my personal experience, it's not easy to kill an AMD CPU.
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yeah under normal expectations this is true.... then this stupid little CPU gave me all hell...

Question - I have lost 2 x 5600g in a span of 2 months.

I swear there is something seriously wrong with the 5600G. I built both machines. CPU's came sealed. First cpu died in 3 weeks from my niece gaming on it probably 6 hours every day. Second cpu died from my Cousin watching movies a little under 2 months. Both systems were built near the same...
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Also remember my famous statement in that thread:

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But now that im looking back at it...

ASUS + AMD... errr.. it was in a mixing pot destined for failure.
I wonder if the Board killed it.
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lol... still using a similar yet maybe a platinum plated pot this time with how expensive everything was, yet the same pot.
 
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ASRock maybe, but ASUS hasn't been killing AMD CPUs much lately. They were one of many mobo OEMs that had problems with too-high vSoC values for EXPO memory kits during Zen4, but that affected nearly everyone.
 
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Something is very wrong with validation of TR CPUs if they suddenly die. Personally, I wouldn't expect it because they are simply supposed to be leakier Epycs.
 
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videocardz writes:
Large US retailer confirms when Threadripper 9000 is hitting the shelves
Looks like AMD might keep its promise to launch Zen5-based Threadripper series this month.
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Prices advanced from walletripper to walletripper-pro level, according to B&H's price bracket filter.

Edit: According to this report, Threadripper 9000 < EPYC 9005, 9005F < Threadripper 9005 (by prices for same core count)
I haven't paid attention how it was with EPYC 9004 and Threadripper 7000, when both were new = before EPYC 9004 prices started to edge into somewhat saner regions.
 
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StefanR5R said:
Prices advanced from walletripper to walletripper-pro level, according to B&H's price bracket filter.
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and people were raging at intel for making the XE saphire ridge cpu expensive.

I dont think intel has ever had a HEDT that had a msrp of $12000.
At that point i dont even think that could be called a HEDT but a full out Workstation, as there is no Enthusiast meaning in a price tag that high.

But then again Nvidia is forcing people to pay 4000 dollars for a HEDT class GPU, from partners, and 8000+ dollars for a RTX PRO. So i guess the standards for HEDT has gone up astronomically that not even the original HEDT people can stomache such a price tag.
 
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aigomorla said:
and people were raging at intel for making the XE saphire ridge cpu expensive.

I dont think intel has ever had a HEDT that had a msrp of $12000.
At that point i dont even think that could be called a HEDT but a full out Workstation, as there is no Enthusiast meaning in a price tag that high.

But then again Nvidia is forcing people to pay 4000 dollars for a HEDT class GPU, from partners, and 8000+ dollars for a RTX PRO. So i guess the standards for HEDT has gone up astronomically that not even the original HEDT people can stomache such a price tag.
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The biggest I had in that series was years ago, and it was 16 cores when desktop was maxed at 8, but it was affordable, like $3,000 or less. I still have a 1950x. Oh, I did have 2 2990wx's and they were the like $1500 or more.
 
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Markfw said:
The biggest I had in that series was years ago, and it was 16 cores when desktop was maxed at 8, but it was affordable, like $3,000 or less. I still have a 1950x. Oh, I did have 2 2990wx's and they were the like $1500 or more.
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which is why i say AMD can not be trusted with HEDT.
On top we can't even overclock them without voiding any support / warrenty they have.

I love AMD, but i don't love what they did to HEDT.
However its the only way i can get the required PCI-E Lanes, and somewhat decient gaming performance.

Im so glad i got my 7960X, as its probably going to be near impossible to find a threadripper under 2000 dollars.
 
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aigomorla said:
On top we can't even overclock them without voiding any support / warrenty they have.
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And when could you overclock without technically voiding the warranty? All Intel and AMD CPUs always included the fine print that XMP is not covered by warranty, or that operating cpus outside of the specs is not covered by warranty, what includes both under and over clocking.
 
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aigomorla said:
I dont think intel has ever had a HEDT that had a msrp of $12000.
At that point i dont even think that could be called a HEDT but a full out Workstation, as there is no Enthusiast meaning in a price tag that high.
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The MSRPs which AMD announced yesterday are only for the workstation Threadrippers = 9000WX series.
The MSRPs of the HEDT Threadrippers = 9000X series were not made public yet. (B&H's preliminary prices are $1,600/ $2,600/ $5,300 according to videocardz, for 24/ 32/ 64 cores.)

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¹) edit, https://www.amd.com/en/blogs/2025/amd-introduces-new-zen-5-based-ryzen-threadripper-pro.html
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rev...r-pro-9000wx-pricing-11699-for-96-core-9995wx
https://www.techpowerup.com/339029/...ryzen-threadripper-pro-9000-wx-series-pricing
https://www.computerbase.de/news/pr...bis-zu-5-4-ghz-kosten-11-699-us-dollar.93555/
 
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gdansk said:
At those prices it should be easy for Intel to undercut them and still make money, right?
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If I can properly guess Intel's mentality, they would want their products to be sold at even higher prices because they think enterprise customers only choose AMD when they can't get Intel.
 
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gdansk said:
At those prices it should be easy for Intel to undercut them and still make money, right?
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I mean they can but the platform costs makes the CPU cost just a small piece of the pie. If you are spending $2000 on mobo + ram and potentially multiple GPU and NVME in the range of $6000, the CPU cost is is not that big of a deal.
 
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StefanR5R said:
The MSRPs of the HEDT Threadrippers = 9000X series were not made public yet. (B&H's preliminary prices are $1,600/ $2,600/ $5,300 according to videocardz, for 24/ 32/ 64 cores.)
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IF you can get them...

Can i start playing my tiny as heck violin in how difficult it was to get my 7960X, and how many secret hand shakes i had to learn along with how to avoid scalper hell on the cpu.
 
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igor_kavinski said:
Funnily, I just found this: https://bizon-tech.com/bizon-x4000.html

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If a system builder is charging ONLY $99 to void TR warranty, you have nothing to worry about.

It means that a TR CPU dying from OCing basically never happens!
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This is interesting, but you can't be so sure. Well, it may die because of other reasons, and you won't be able to utilize the warranty because you just happened to enable overclocking. CPUs don't die easily anyways. The problem is they may go bad, and cause all sorts of funny problems as I have currently seen. This is troublesome to troubleshoot. I wish when they die, they just die and not run at all.
 
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This one and all Zen5 TRs with core counts below it will be pointless for most customers once NVL-S 52C arrives on DT:

TR 7970X$2,50032 / 64

Simply too expensive, especially when including total platform cost. You'll get more perf/$ by going with NVL-S instead for most workloads.
 
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Fjodor2001 said:
This one and all Zen5 TRs with core counts below it will be pointless for most customers once NVL-S 52C arrives on DT:

TR 7970X$2,50032 / 64

Simply too expensive, especially when including total platform cost. You'll get more perf/$ by going with NVL-S instead for most workloads.
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I'm pretty sure it is already pointless if you want perf/$ for most workloads and don't need lots of ECC RDIMM/PCIe lanes.

It simply becomes slightly more pointless for those people who weren't going to buy it anyway. But who knows it could be a real game changer.
 
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