swilli89
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The train is rolling and brakes are broken . Chu-chu !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik
The train is rolling and brakes are broken . Chu-chu !!!
Passmark only checks frequency CPU is running at before running tests themselves. MSR reports 3.4Ghz and then it boosts up during tests. Bah-dum, it is entirely invisible.The OS will detect it, but it doesn't and there is a complete lack of proof that it was working
Well acording to passmark
If its running at 3.4Ghz its exactly Haswell IPC, at 3.8Ghz it may be below Haswell IPC, personally i think its running at 3.4Ghz, the table says "Turbo Clock: N/A" like with the I3s, it may also be because the program is unable to detect it,
Passmark only checks frequency CPU is running at before running tests themselves. MSR reports 3.4Ghz and then it boosts up during tests. Bah-dum, it is entirely invisible.
Sandy above Haswell ? 2500K > 4130 ?
That Passmark runs frequency check before tests? It tells you so straight up.Can you prove it?
So what? The entire point of argument is that Ryzen does not list turbo range. It does not mean a thing on Ryzen, hence the turbo state is "invisible". You simply cannot make conclusions on it's actual running clock from lack of reported turbo.funny how the database shows no turbo, like my 4460 when I disabled turbo is the only CPU with Ryzen that has no turbo range listed.
What is the overclock?
my 2500K is running at 4.2Ghz, that bench suite only shows base clocks on the bars.Sandy above Haswell ? 2500K > 4130 ?
my 2500K is running at 4.2Ghz, that bench suite only shows base clocks on the bars.
my 2500K is running at 4.2Ghz, that bench suite only shows base clocks on the bars.
oh yes.so Passmark doesn't show current clock during test.
2500K at 4Ghz 2172
2172 * 4.2 / 4 = 2226 which is more or less what that score was
That Passmark runs frequency check before tests? It tells you so straight up.
So what? The entire point of argument is that Ryzen does not list turbo range. It does not mean a thing on Ryzen, hence the turbo state is "invisible". You simply cannot make conclusions on it's actual running clock from lack of reported turbo.
https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/830756074126970880
Apparently, it looks like leaks are... rolling out.
https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/830756074126970880
Apparently, it looks like leaks are... rolling out.
It performs well enough in circumstances as is, the truth here is that claiming it was running without turbo with literally 0 evidence is only making hype train ride too fast.why are people so scared of Ryzen's performance that every bench out has had some kind of impediment to it.
Do i need to remind you how far did Intel go in that time?I don't believe AMD would be so actively wanting to parade around Ivy level performance in 2017 on 14nm, that would be like slitting your wrists in front of everyone.
It performs well enough in circumstances as is, the truth here is that claiming it was running without turbo with literally 0 evidence is only making hype train ride too fast.
Do i need to remind you how far did Intel go in that time?
Heck, i took 4.5Ghz 6900k. Single thread is 20% faster, but average of multithreaded tests (that use workloads from single thread test) is 30% faster. Here, your evidence to turbo being active.
Usually products speak for themselves. If they need help from people on forums, they are bad products. If the don't need help, and are downplayed, by fans of other brands - they are great products.Intel has it's own fair share of problems but CPU's don't just evolve relative to the other. AMD's performance gradiant has zero relation to intel and there 14nm tick, tock, tock, tock. What are people afraid of? why is Intel viewed on a higher pedistal when Barrons released a very dire report on how overspent Intel's FABs is, how intel have squandered 20bn on sunken investments and how their CEO is the biggest moron around. If you want to see what a moron can do to a company look at Hector Ruiz.
Lisa Su spent all her time getting rid of non engineers in critical positions and replaced them with top engineers, if you think Ryzen was some slam jam throw together m'aam job, then nothing can help your cynicism and you are very well entitled to them. So far despite the amount of negitivity that is coming from the same group Ryzen continues to impress. I use Intel and Nvidia and that doesn't mean a rejuvinated AMD under a vibrant leader is not something I would love to see, because truth be told, my 4460 and 5960X will be just fine for now.
Nobody has ever claimed that Ryzen is going to smack Kaby lake at low clocks, and if they have it is there own perogative.
Yup, the devil is in the details. The concept sounds incredible, the execution however will decide how it will pan out.
There are not advertised boost clocks. The top turbo (4GHz for the top model) is guaranteed with 32C of ambient and stock cooler. If you don't have air conditioner, then you are right. But with 25/26C (sane summer air conditioning setting) XFR should kick in even with base cooler...I can almost imagine XFR refusing to hit advertised boost clocks at summer.
I'll reveal you a terrible secret: it is not motherboard that reports clocks.
Usually products speak for themselves. If they need help from people on forums, they are bad products. If the don't need help, and are downplayed, by fans of other brands - they are great products.
You personally registered few days ago. You have been banned from one of other forums. There is huge problem with your credibility, and nobody in their own mind will believe you in the first place, until we will see hard facts. Ergo: Reviews of Ryzen chips.
So lets wait for reviews all, and do not hype, or downplay the CPUs.
I have q6600 cpu, with old MB from 2004 I guess, and I can boot from ssd. That computer works without problems, but now is too slow. A friend of mine with phenom x4 965 be it can t install Windows on ssd. That's my concern. Don't want to be off topic, the point is this issues. And he is not a noob in computers. I want to get myself a new build from amd and I will do that. Hope there will be with not to many problems, like I mentioned or performance drop on ssd, USB and other devices connected. And there are bios bug issues, that scared me.
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yea, that was real informative.