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itsmydamnation

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Seems both frequency and latency have an effect, though tighter timings seems to help a bit more.
I couldn't get 1066 @ 5-5-5 or 5-6-7 or 5-7-7 to work so i had to move to 1333 7-7-7 which is 10.5 ns so just a touch slower then 2000 10-11-10 (which is 10ns) and i ended up almost bang on my DDR3 2000 score. YI also want to try to get a some 11ns data.

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##1066 10-11-10 (18.7ns)
CPU Mark This Computer 9230
Integer Math This Computer 19408
Floating Point Math This Computer 8121
Prime Numbers This Computer 19.8
Extended Instructions (SSE) This Computer 225.8
Compression This Computer 14193
Encryption This Computer 2024
Physics This Computer 359.7
Sorting This Computer 8723
CPU Single Threaded This Computer 2370




##1066 7-7-7 (13ns)
CPU Mark This Computer    9932
Integer Math This Computer    19862
Floating Point Math This Computer    8305
Prime Numbers This Computer    25.5
Extended Instructions (SSE) This Computer    227.5
Compression This Computer    15206
Encryption This Computer    2078
Physics This Computer    413.9
Sorting This Computer    8589
CPU Single Threaded This Computer    2327

###1333 8-8-8 (12ns)
CPU Mark This Computer    10140
Integer Math This Computer    17076
Floating Point Math This Computer    8182
Prime Numbers This Computer    29.1
Extended Instructions (SSE) This Computer    220.0
Compression This Computer    14959
Encryption This Computer    2040
Physics This Computer    476.2
Sorting This Computer    8557
CPU Single Threaded This Computer    2367

###1333 7-7-7 (10.5ns)
CPU Mark This Computer    10516
Integer Math This Computer    19445
Floating Point Math This Computer    8457
Prime Numbers This Computer    29.9
Extended Instructions (SSE) This Computer    228.5
Compression This Computer    15119
Encryption This Computer    2074
Physics This Computer    503
Sorting This Computer    8761
CPU Single Threaded This Computer    2375

##2000 10-11-10 (10ns)
CPU Mark 10673
Integer Math 19504
Floating Point Math 8336
Prime Numbers 31.5
Extended Instructions (SSE) 219.1
Compression 14806
Encryption 1944
Physics 597
Sorting 8577
CPU Single Threaded 2358
 

tential

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The cpu is a great option, not a fan of Intel or amd. But my concern is the platform, incompatibility, issues that can be a real pain, for example : not be able to boot from ssd. I m OK if the cpu is not the most powerful, I m not ok with stability and incompatibility that May occur. I will wait for reviews

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All I'm looking for is a decent server cpu. Unless money isn't an object you have Intel or amd. So for me it's obvious. I'm not paying that much for my server so amd it is. Haswell like performance is good enough in a 65 watt tdp package. It just has to be decent enough.

Intel needs to counter by allowing users to get lots of cores without a massive premium otherwise there really isn't an option.

I'm definitely interested in the reviews but the core count and price point is by itself so really its just whether I want to finish off my gaming server now or wait for zen 2.
I wonder if you can configure the tdp down to even 35 watts in the bios.

I don't know nor care how it will do mainstream, it's just a product I've needed to fit my needs and I've been waiting for zen for awhile to do exactly this.
 

Dresdenboy

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Implying you can lose as end user in CPU business.
Yes, you can. ;) Just think of growing OS/software demands. They just leave you behind over time. 4K movie editing, games, VR, web pages with scripts demanding performance equivalent to supercomputer a few decades ago - and then multiple of them in 20+ tabs.
 
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I couldn't get 1066 @ 5-5-5 or 5-6-7 or 5-7-7 to work so i had to move to 1333 7-7-7 which is 10.5 ns so just a touch slower then 2000 10-11-10 (which is 10ns) and i ended up almost bang on my DDR3 2000 score. YI also want to try to get a some 11ns data.

Code:
##1066 10-11-10 (18.7ns)
CPU Mark This Computer 9230
Integer Math This Computer 19408
Floating Point Math This Computer 8121
Prime Numbers This Computer 19.8
Extended Instructions (SSE) This Computer 225.8
Compression This Computer 14193
Encryption This Computer 2024
Physics This Computer 359.7
Sorting This Computer 8723
CPU Single Threaded This Computer 2370




##1066 7-7-7 (13ns)
CPU Mark This Computer    9932
Integer Math This Computer    19862
Floating Point Math This Computer    8305
Prime Numbers This Computer    25.5
Extended Instructions (SSE) This Computer    227.5
Compression This Computer    15206
Encryption This Computer    2078
Physics This Computer    413.9
Sorting This Computer    8589
CPU Single Threaded This Computer    2327

###1333 8-8-8 (12ns)
CPU Mark This Computer    10140
Integer Math This Computer    17076
Floating Point Math This Computer    8182
Prime Numbers This Computer    29.1
Extended Instructions (SSE) This Computer    220.0
Compression This Computer    14959
Encryption This Computer    2040
Physics This Computer    476.2
Sorting This Computer    8557
CPU Single Threaded This Computer    2367

###1333 7-7-7 (10.5ns)
CPU Mark This Computer    10516
Integer Math This Computer    19445
Floating Point Math This Computer    8457
Prime Numbers This Computer    29.9
Extended Instructions (SSE) This Computer    228.5
Compression This Computer    15119
Encryption This Computer    2074
Physics This Computer    503
Sorting This Computer    8761
CPU Single Threaded This Computer    2375

##2000 10-11-10 (10ns)
CPU Mark 10673
Integer Math 19504
Floating Point Math 8336
Prime Numbers 31.5
Extended Instructions (SSE) 219.1
Compression 14806
Encryption 1944
Physics 597
Sorting 8577
CPU Single Threaded 2358
Thanks again. Does seem frequency affects the score a wee bit albeit timings are definitely the bigger factor.
 

lobz

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Intel should ship Cannonlake this year. It doesn't seem like it'll show up in anything but notebooks/2-in-1s though. Things may be getting a little weird in the Intel camp with Cannonlake in Y/U format but Kabylake/Coffeelake on mainstream desktop and Skylake/Kabylake on HEDT.

That would put HEDT two generations behind the current one.

I am sure they would pull another Xeon-D (Cannonlake replacing Broadwell) if necessary.



Which is possible, and happens often.
Whether they ship it or not has nothing to do with what they should or shouldn't do. They have major problems with the 10nm process, and even if they ship CL this year, it's already planned to be exclusively very LP mobile chips.
 

lobz

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The cpu is a great option, not a fan of Intel or amd. But my concern is the platform, incompatibility, issues that can be a real pain, for example : not be able to boot from ssd. I m OK if the cpu is not the most powerful, I m not ok with stability and incompatibility that May occur. I will wait for reviews

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It's up to the MB manufacturers I suppose. I installed like 15 intel systems with bootable SSDs (both SATA and NVMe) and it never once went automatically or PnP style. It's usually a real PITA for an inexperienced user.
 

lobz

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All I'm looking for is a decent server cpu. Unless money isn't an object you have Intel or amd. So for me it's obvious. I'm not paying that much for my server so amd it is. Haswell like performance is good enough in a 65 watt tdp package. It just has to be decent enough.

Intel needs to counter by allowing users to get lots of cores without a massive premium otherwise there really isn't an option.

I'm definitely interested in the reviews but the core count and price point is by itself so really its just whether I want to finish off my gaming server now or wait for zen 2.
I wonder if you can configure the tdp down to even 35 watts in the bios.

I don't know nor care how it will do mainstream, it's just a product I've needed to fit my needs and I've been waiting for zen for awhile to do exactly this.
I don't see them cutting their prices in half for their HEDT CPUs, nor the MB partners coming out with cheap brand new x99 / x299 boards :p
 

tential

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I don't either, hence why zen is the only option for enthusiasts who want cores on a budget.

It leaves a good couple of niches zen can gain easy wins in. If zen comes in cheap with the 6 core 12 thread option it may leave Intel open at the budget end too
 

wembley

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It's up to the MB manufacturers I suppose. I installed like 15 intel systems with bootable SSDs (both SATA and NVMe) and it never once went automatically or PnP style. It's usually a real PITA for an inexperienced user.
I have q6600 cpu, with old MB from 2004 I guess, and I can boot from ssd. That computer works without problems, but now is too slow:). A friend of mine with phenom x4 965 be it can t install Windows on ssd. That's my concern. Don't want to be off topic, the point is this issues. And he is not a noob in computers. I want to get myself a new build from amd and I will do that. Hope there will be with not to many problems, like I mentioned or performance drop on ssd, USB and other devices connected. And there are bios bug issues, that scared me.

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Crumpet

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...I've never had a system, AMD or Intel fail to boot from SSD.

Anyway, just want to say thank you to itsmydamnation for answering my question, when Ryzen releases i'll tighten down my timings to CAS 15 just for that extra boost.

3200 @ 16 cas is 10ns which i would call it better then average. High end super expensive your looking @ high 8ns. DDR4 @ 2400 with 17 cas (the Zen sample) is looking at 14ns which is slower then DDR3 1066 7-7-7 which is 13ns.

edit lol there is a user 2400, adding a space between @ and 2400
 

The Stilt

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More advanced than Intel's CPU ? I mean not possible with Software?
Intel's PMU is most likely more integrated, less flexible fixed function type piece of hardware.
In some ways it is more advanced (i.e controlling the CPU cores at low level, i.e the FP), however I'd say AMD's solution is more comprehensive and versatile.
AMD can tune and even add new features to the power management simply by releasing a new firmware. The SMU itself poses no limitations, other than AMD has seen necessary to accommodate.
 

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Now onto the third point, AVX , AVX 2 and FMA usage in games.

Thax to intel, its not going to be prevalent any time soon because there are to many chips that have AVX and AVX2 fused off. Then add the number of people still on SB and IVB that dont have AVX2 or FMA . Then add that the consoles only have 2x128b AVX units a core and we can see Dev's are going to target data structures that align to 128bit operations for a good number of years yet. My bet is ~5 years before they (256bit ops) are the common target, thax Intel :eek:
Didn't somebody at AMD specifically state that Zen is built and optimised for currently available non-AVX software?

I tried a quick google but couldn't find anything.
 

itsmydamnation

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Didn't somebody at AMD specifically state that Zen is built and optimised for currently available non-AVX software?

I tried a quick google but couldn't find anything.
No one said it that i know of, its from the obvious choices they made in the uarch, but AVX/2/fma can be both 128 and 256 bit. So its not SSE but 128 bit workloads that Zen targets, its just almost all 128bit workloads are SSE.
 

Crumpet

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Do we know if Ryzen's turbo will be across all cores or scaled like Intel's??

-edit for clarity- I mean straight up Turbo, NOT xfr
 

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Max frequency range was set to 32 limiting all state turbo to 3.2Ghz, AIDA detects the limitations and reports it as max = 3.2


Passmark can also detect the changed state, not reflected as off like in my screenshots last night. Still detect maximum turbo range.



Detects back to 3.4Ghz



Aida detects the same state.

Turbo was definitley disabled from BIOS in the leaks, if it was enabled it would have shown the range values in Passmark, even if turbo is not working properly, it will always detect because it is writen to the Operating System
 
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lolfail9001

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Turbo was definitley disabled from BIOS in the leaks, if it was enabled it would have shown the range values in Passmark, even if turbo is not working properly, it will always detect because it is writen to the Operating System
Based on comparing apples to oranges? Sigh, you really like these comparisons.
Could at least post source: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4975965039

Anyways, if all of these are unlocked, i really fail to understand who would buy higher bins.
 

The Stilt

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Do we know if Ryzen's turbo will be across all cores or scaled like Intel's??

-edit for clarity- I mean straight up Turbo, NOT xfr
There is no linear relation to the number of utilized cores (i.e core dependent boost bins like on Intel). Just MSCF (maximum single core frequency) and MACF (maximum all core frequency).
 
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PPB

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XFR doesnt really interest me. It bothered me with my 960 on the GPU side of the spectrum.

What I want, is pstate control, just like Wattman gives me for AMD gpus or just like good ol' phenommsrtweaker or Stilt's software (a shame that it wasn't further developed).
 
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