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IRobot23

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if it was him/her scratching it then I totally agree , but would not be the first time i received new hardware were namely a backplate or a heat-sink is scratched*.

PS* most of the time barely visible that it escape QA.
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Yes my heatsink was scratched. Small scratch, fingerprint on AUDIO "Supreme FX" chip... I would change it, if they send me one. More likely I will switch to gigabyte.
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Basically I do mind, but since I paid for it for more than 200€ it should be perfect and It should never happen. I know whats coming next, MB can die and probably I wound get warranty because of that scratch. ASUS has really bad support.
 
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IRobot23 said:
Yes my heatsink was scratched. Small scratch, fingerprint on AUDIO "Supreme FX" chip... I would change it, if they send me one. More likely I will switch to gigabyte.
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Basically I do mind, but since I paid for it for more than 200€ it should be perfect and It should never happen. I know whats coming next, MB can die and probably I wound get warranty because of that scratch. ASUS has really bad support.
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Yeah bud, good luck with that then. Way to blow it way out of proportion. It's a minor scratch, and it doesn't affect it's operation now does it? Suck it up buttercup. Move on, or return it to where you got it. No one wants to hear your tale of woe and how bad ASUS is because they won't honor your warranty request because of a tiny scratch which has no baring on operation of the product itself.
 
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Good thing that heatsink isn't required to meet the MIL-A-8625E Type III specification.

All kidding aside, this is what merchant product reviews (e.g. Newegg user reviews) are for. So you can leave your feedback for others to view before purchasing.
 
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Ah ha! So you have Samsung E-die. And it's dual-rank. That is fascinating stuff actually, I hadn't expected to see that there.

So you are basically in the same boat as the people with 2x16GB setups: you're in the dual-rank club. It can be clocked up fairly high if it's B-die. With E-die you may have to go loose with some of the timings to achieve the same memory clocks as people using B-die, though it can be done.
 
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Ah ha! So you have Samsung E-die. And it's dual-rank. That is fascinating stuff actually, I hadn't expected to see that there.

So you are basically in the same boat as the people with 2x16GB setups: you're in the dual-rank club. It can be clocked up fairly high if it's B-die. With E-die you may have to go loose with some of the timings to achieve the same memory clocks as people using B-die, though it can be done.
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IEC said:
I bet you have Samsung E-die rated at 16-18-18-18-38 timings at 3400 / 1.35V, 2T command rate. Which would explain your difficulty getting above 3000.
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Now that it's confirmed E-die... He's going to be lucky to get 2933 out of it with loose timings. Ask me how I know...

Hint:
http://valid.x86.fr/rdfj6b

Real hint:
Try running 2T command rate. You need it on those ICs to get 2933+.

Side note: I sold those DIMMs when I sold my Skylake system, where they run the rated 3400 CL16 @ 2T CR.
 
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IEC said:
Now that it's confirmed E-die... He's going to be lucky to get 2933 out of it with loose timings. Ask me how I know...

Hint:
http://valid.x86.fr/rdfj6b

Real hint:
Try running 2T command rate. You need it on those ICs to get 2933+.

Side note: I sold those DIMMs when I sold my Skylake system, where they run the rated 3400 CL16 @ 2T CR.
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Hmm interesting. I saw people on Intel systems get very high clocks with E-die, but they had to set their primaries really high except for CL.

Like 14-20-20-20 and stuff like that.
 
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Yeah bud, good luck with that then. Way to blow it way out of proportion. It's a minor scratch, and it doesn't affect it's operation now does it? Suck it up buttercup. Move on, or return it to where you got it. No one wants to hear your tale of woe and how bad ASUS is because they won't honor your warranty request because of a tiny scratch which has no baring on operation of the product itself.
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Sure,... buy a new product with a scratch. Most people on OCN is talking about bad SUPPORT at ASUS.

Like I said right know that is only "a scratch", but if board suddenly dies they will refer to this scratch.
 
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IEC said:
Now that it's confirmed E-die... He's going to be lucky to get 2933 out of it with loose timings. Ask me how I know...

Hint:
http://valid.x86.fr/rdfj6b

Real hint:
Try running 2T command rate. You need it on those ICs to get 2933+.

Side note: I sold those DIMMs when I sold my Skylake system, where they run the rated 3400 CL16 @ 2T CR.
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I can get it to boot at 3066 but it isn't stable for long. I usually set the DRAM voltage at 1.4 and SOC at 1.1. Is the 2T CR an option in the bios under a different name? I didn't see it last time I checked.
 
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Eric1987 said:
I can get it to boot at 3066 but it isn't stable for long. I usually set the DRAM voltage at 1.4 and SOC at 1.1. Is the 2T CR an option in the bios under a different name? I didn't see it last time I checked.
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I have E- die also. I can run it at 3200MHz fully stable.
If you play games timings are not big deal. Its better to have 3466MHz CL16/18/18/38 than 3200MHzCL14/14/14/34
 
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So what settings did you use then? I'd rather it get to 3466 but I am barely at 3066 stable for an hour.
 
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Anyone try the new Asrock AGESA 1.0.0.6a BIOS's that came out today?

(AB350 Pro4/AB350M Pro4/A320M Pro4/Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4)

Or the X370 versions that came out yesterday and Friday? (Taichi/Fata1ty)

Edit: [SMT off] sleep bug not fixed. Everything else is working normally at modest settings. I haven't yet experimented with memory settings beyond 3333.
 
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IRobot23 said:
Sure,... buy a new product with a scratch. Most people on OCN is talking about bad SUPPORT at ASUS.

Like I said right know that is only "a scratch", but if board suddenly dies they will refer to this scratch.
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I guess reading comprehension is a bit tough for you? No one said buy another product from ASUS. If it's that bad, then just return it and get something else. Just quit your whining. Your board isn't going to die, unless you mishandle it.
 
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I guess reading comprehension is a bit tough for you? No one said buy another product from ASUS. If it's that bad, then just return it and get something else. Just quit your whining. Your board isn't going to die, unless you mishandle it.
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Sure. How did I even offend you...? Since you reported me. You were basically accusing me of doing something very disrespectful. I felt offended.

I am not trying to say that ASUS is something that... But that mistake should happen. I do work and I have to be very careful how I package products, box needs to be nice (perfect). Product needs to be perfect. Or simply I am out.
 
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Space Tyrant said:
Or the X370 versions that came out yesterday and Friday? (Taichi/Fata1ty)
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I am using UEFI rev. 3.0 on my X370 Taichi. The only problem I detected was that it briefly ran my CPU at 52C socket temp immediately after the flash. It returned to normal operation soon thereafter (after booting into OS) and has been behaving itself ever since.

I do not use sleep mode so I can't speak to that problem. My PC never sleeps! No rest for the wicked.

RAM OC on my b-die seems about the same. DDR4-3466 14-14-14-28 1T still works, but I have yet to stabilize DDR4-3600 so whatever.
 
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DrMrLordX said:
RAM OC on my b-die seems about the same. DDR4-3466 14-14-14-28 1T still works, but I have yet to stabilize DDR4-3600 so whatever.
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I've not found a difference yet on memory for my FlareX 3200 kit. It runs at 3333/14/14/14/14/34 but I have to loosen timings to get it to boot at 3466. And I've had the pleasure of CLRCMOS every time I've tried 3600.

My next task is to see if I can find any improvements in pstate OCing. But I'm not expecting anything new except for XMP profiles and memory fine-tuning.
 
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DrMrLordX said:
I am using UEFI rev. 3.0 on my X370 Taichi. The only problem I detected was that it briefly ran my CPU at 52C socket temp immediately after the flash. It returned to normal operation soon thereafter (after booting into OS) and has been behaving itself ever since.

I do not use sleep mode so I can't speak to that problem. My PC never sleeps! No rest for the wicked.

RAM OC on my b-die seems about the same. DDR4-3466 14-14-14-28 1T still works, but I have yet to stabilize DDR4-3600 so whatever.
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Have you ever tried running Core Temp at all to see your cpu temps? I just ran it with my overclock of 3.9, and I see it dip down to 1c for some reason. Have you experienced this at all with any temp monitoring with the new bios?
 
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