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DAPUNISHER said:
Remind me what CPU and GPU you are playing on right now?
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2 I5 3470 based systems with low profile 4GB RX 550 video cards, and 1 Ryzen 5 5500 tower, also with RX 550 video card. The video is overkill for any of the games we play, the vast majority of which are casual 2D titles. (most recently, I played Age of Fear 4, and now I'm playing Space Run) The only ones my kids play with really much of any 3D are Marvel Lego Superheroes, Minecraft, and Spintires, and several other 3D games that are about 10 years old, & would run fine on integrated graphics.

I'm finally going to replace one of the I5 3470 systems. I have 32GB memory, 1TB XD80 SSD, hard drive for additional storage, motherboard, non riplocked DVD drive, a 5 1/4" drive bay stereo speaker set, and a Tower that I've used to build systems since about 2000. Still need to decide on a mouse, mechanical keyboard, power supply & processor. Usually these days I just buy a used desktop PC & upgrade it, but this time I'm actually building my own from parts that I've bought from sales over the past 6 to 8 months.
 
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GunsMadeAmericaFree said:
2 I5 3470 based systems with low profile 4GB RX 550 video cards, and 1 Ryzen 5 5500 tower, also with RX 550 video card. The video is overkill for any of the games we play, the vast majority of which are casual 2D titles. (most recently, I played Age of Fear 4, and now I'm playing Space Run) The only ones my kids play with really much of any 3D are Marvel Lego Superheroes, Minecraft, and Spintires, and several other 3D games that are about 10 years old, & would run fine on integrated graphics.

I'm finally going to replace one of the I5 3470 systems. I have 32GB memory, 1TB XD80 SSD, hard drive for additional storage, motherboard, non riplocked DVD drive, a 5 1/4" drive bay stereo speaker set, and a Tower that I've used to build systems since about 2000. Still need to decide on a mouse, mechanical keyboard, power supply & processor. Usually these days I just buy a used desktop PC & upgrade it, but this time I'm actually building my own from parts that I've bought from sales over the past 6 to 8 months.
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I can see why you are taking your time. Everything you guys are playing runs on a potato. Hold out, and keep your eye on the for sale forum. Always great deals like my $115 5600X floating through there. EVGA B stock is a good place to look for PSUs. The BF thru Cyber Monday sales usually have some killer deals too. I picked up a EVGA 850w Bronze semi modular a few years back for $50 shipped off Amazon.
 
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Has anyone picked up a newer 5800X non 3D, with a 22xx production date?

I am wondering how they do on temps versus the first ones; I have a system primarily used for gaming and web browsing that has an early chip that just runs hot when gaming, even with ECO mode, offset, under-volt, etc.

I have a 2106 5800X I am debating swapping in, but am also thinking about trying a 22xx chip from flea-bay or *maybe* buy a couple from antonline flea-bay and pick the newest one and try it.
 
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AMD x570 D/L

Wow .. lots of BSOD's out there ?

AMD Ryzen™ Chipset Driver Release Notes 4.11.15.342


Article Number
RN-RYZEN-CHIPSET-4-11-15-342
Release Highlights
  • Bug fixes on few drivers
Known Issues
  • Sometimes custom install fails to upgrade to latest drivers.
  • Text alignment issues may be seen on Russian language.
  • Manual system restart required on Non-English OS after the installation is complete.
  • Uninstall summary log may incorrectly show uninstall status as fail on non-English OS.
Chipset Support
Windows 10Windows 11
AMD WRX80YesYes
AMD TRX40YesYes
AMD X670E / X670YesYes
AMD B650E / B650YesYes
AMD X570YesYes
AMD B550YesYes
AMD A520YesYes
AMD X399YesYes
AMD X470YesYes
AMD B450YesYes
AMD X370YesYes
AMD B350YesYes
AMD A320YesYes
Processor Support
Windows 10Windows 11
AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO ProcessorsYesYes
AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series Desktop ProcessorsYesYes
AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series Desktop ProcessorsYesYes
2nd/3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ ProcessorsYesYes
1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ ProcessorsYesNo
2nd/3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Desktop ProcessorsYesYes
1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ Desktop ProcessorsYesNo
AMD Ryzen™ 3000G/4000G/5000G Series Desktop Processors with Radeon™ GraphicsYesYes
AMD Ryzen™ 2000G Series Desktop Processors with Radeon™ GraphicsYesNo
AMD Ryzen™ Mobile 3000U/C, 4000U/H, 5000U/H/HS, 6000U/H/HS/HX Series Processors with Radeon™ GraphicsYesYes
AMD Ryzen™ Mobile 2000U Series Processors with Radeon™ GraphicsYesNo
7th Gen AMD A-Series ProcessorsYesNo
Package Contents
The AMD Ryzen™ Chipset Driver installation package contains various independent drivers designed to support the following Microsoft® Windows® platforms. Operating System support may vary depending on your specific AMD product
Driver NameWindows
10		Windows
11		Change Details
AMD Ryzen Power Plan / AMD Processor Power Management Support8.0.0.138.0.0.13No change
AMD PCI Device Driver1.0.0.901.0.0.90Bug fixes
AMD I2C Driver1.2.0.1191.2.0.119No change
AMD UART Driver1.2.0.1141.2.0.114No change
AMD GPIO2 Driver2.2.0.1302.2.0.130No change
PT GPIO Driver3.0.0.03.0.0.0No change
AMD PSP Driver5.22.0.05.22.0.0Fixed BSOD 7E while installing the PSP driver
New program support added
AMD IOV Driver1.2.0.52Not ApplicableNo change
AMD SMBUS Driver5.12.0.385.12.0.38No change
AMD AS4 ACPI Driver1.2.0.46Not ApplicableNo change
AMD SFH I2C Driver1.0.0.861.0.0.86No change
AMD USB Filter Driver2.1.11.304Not ApplicableNo change
AMD SFH Driver1.0.0.3321.0.0.332Added support for custom ACS sensor
Report invalid data when sensor is blocked
AMD CIR Driver3.2.4.135Not ApplicableNo change
AMD MicroPEP Driver1.0.39.01.0.39.0Updated .inf file to remove redundant information
Fixed BSOD 0x1CA and 0xA0 seen on Windows® 11 22H2
AMD Wireless Button Driver1.0.0.21.0.0.2No change
AMD PMF-6000 Series Driver22.0.3.022.0.3.0No change
AMD PPM Provisioning File Driver8.0.0.158.0.0.15New program support added
AMD USB4 CM Driver1.0.0.23Not ApplicableBug fix for S0i3 cases
Fix for DP light up with reboot cycles
Fixed BSOD 0x139
AMD AMS Mailbox Driver1.0.0.4951.0.0.495No change
AMD S0i3 Filter Driver1.0.0.161.0.0.16Fix for BSOD during S4 when AMD USB4 CM is involved
 
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Updated to AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.8 ( Beta )
Ran thru a few benchmarks.
AIDA shows lower Nanos.
3dMark = same
Assassin's Creed = 3 frame gain

I'll keep it.
 
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x570 D/L

MSI released drivers a few days ago also.

AMD Ryzen™ Chipset Driver Release Notes 5.02.19.2221


Article Number
RN-RYZEN-CHIPSET-5-02-19-2221
Release Highlights
  • Bug fixes on few drivers
  • Added support for AMD Ryzen™ 7000X3D Series Desktop Processors
  • Added support for AMD Ryzen™ 7045HX Series Desktop Processors
Known Issues
  • Sometimes custom install fails to upgrade to latest drivers.
  • Manual system restart required on Non-English OS after the installation is complete.
  • Uninstall summary log may incorrectly show uninstall status as fail on non-English OS.
Chipset Support
Windows 10Windows 11
AMD WRX80YesYes
AMD TRX40YesYes
AMD X670E / X670YesYes
AMD B650E / B650YesYes
AMD X570YesYes
AMD B550YesYes
AMD A520YesYes
AMD X399YesYes
AMD X470YesYes
AMD B450YesYes
AMD X370YesYes
AMD B350YesYes
AMD A320YesYes
Processor Support
Windows 10Windows 11
AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO ProcessorsYesYes
AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series Desktop ProcessorsYesYes
AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series Desktop ProcessorsYesYes
2nd/3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ ProcessorsYesYes
1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ ProcessorsYesNo
2nd/3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Desktop ProcessorsYesYes
1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ Desktop ProcessorsYesNo
AMD Ryzen™ 3000G/4000G/5000G Series Desktop Processors with Radeon™ GraphicsYesYes
AMD Ryzen™ 2000G Series Desktop Processors with Radeon™ GraphicsYesNo
AMD Ryzen™ Mobile 3000U/C, 4000U/H, 5000U/H/HS, 6000U/H/HS/HX Series Processors with Radeon™ GraphicsYesYes
AMD Ryzen™ Mobile 2000U Series Processors with Radeon™ GraphicsYesNo
7th Gen AMD A-Series ProcessorsYesNo
Package Contents
The AMD Ryzen™ Chipset Driver installation package contains various independent drivers designed to support the following Microsoft® Windows® platforms. Operating System support may vary depending on your specific AMD product
Driver NameWindows
10		Windows
11		Change Details
AMD Ryzen Power Plan / AMD Processor Power Management Support8.0.0.138.0.0.13No change
AMD PCI Device Driver1.0.0.901.0.0.90Bug fixes
AMD I2C Driver1.2.0.1201.2.0.120ReStore Bus Clear Feature Control Bit
AMD UART Driver1.2.0.1141.2.0.114No change
AMD GPIO2 Driver2.2.0.1302.2.0.130No change
PT GPIO Driver3.0.0.03.0.0.0No change
AMD PSP Driver5.22.0.05.22.0.0No change
AMD IOV Driver1.2.0.52Not ApplicableNo change
AMD SMBUS Driver5.12.0.385.12.0.38No change
AMD AS4 ACPI Driver1.2.0.46Not ApplicableNo change
AMD SFH I2C Driver1.0.0.861.0.0.86No change
AMD USB Filter Driver2.1.11.304Not ApplicableNo change
AMD SFH Driver1.0.0.3321.0.0.332No change
AMD CIR Driver3.2.4.135Not ApplicableNo change
AMD MicroPEP Driver1.0.40.11.0.40.1Support up to 256 devices/controllers
New program(s) support added
Fixed low SW/HW DRIPS issue observed during stress test
AMD Wireless Button Driver1.0.0.21.0.0.2No change
AMD PMF-6000 Series Driver22.0.3.022.0.3.0No change
AMD PPM Provisioning File Driver8.0.0.198.0.0.19New program support added
AMD USB4 CM Driver1.0.0.25Not ApplicableStability improvements
AMD AMS Mailbox Driver2.0.0.5722.0.0.572Fixed NCC warnings
AMD S0i3 Filter Driver1.0.0.161.0.0.16Fix for BSOD during S4 when AMD USB4 CM is involved
AMD 3D V-Cache Performance Optimizer Driver1.0.0.71.0.0.7New driver added
 
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Hmm, wonder if Ryzen 5900/5950 CPUs will be coming down anymore in price - or if this is it (apart from the occasional $10-20 off sale).
 
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B-Riz said:
Has anyone picked up a newer 5800X non 3D, with a 22xx production date?

I am wondering how they do on temps versus the first ones; I have a system primarily used for gaming and web browsing that has an early chip that just runs hot when gaming, even with ECO mode, offset, under-volt, etc.

I have a 2106 5800X I am debating swapping in, but am also thinking about trying a 22xx chip from flea-bay or *maybe* buy a couple from antonline flea-bay and pick the newest one and try it.
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I can't comment directly on a 5800X comparison but my 5950X is B2 stepping with a 2022 production date and my 5800X is a B0 stepping with an early 2021 production date. Despite having half the cores, the 5800X runs 10-12C hotter under similar ~8 core work loads.

Same ambient temp, same B550 ITX board, and same Dark Rock Pro 4.
 
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Now that I upgraded my old GTX1060 to RX6800XT, maybe my 5600XT might get refreshed to 5800X3D.

I'm not sure I play enough to justrify it though. I might keep the cash to a future upgrade to AM5 once prices settle down (cheap Zen5 when Zen6 comes ?)
 
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Thibsie said:
I'm not sure I play enough to justrify it though. I might keep the cash to a future upgrade to AM5 once prices settle down (cheap Zen5 when Zen6 comes ?)
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only incentive i see you on that upgrade is if your still playing in 1080p on a game which is breaking over 200fps and you have a 240fps monitor.

Otherwise its a wash, unless you really need the extra cores for something else.
Your much better off investing in another SSD or a nVME as it will give you more storage for games and other things.
 
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Hans Gruber said:
Fun facts with Asus motherboards. Or at least the Rog Strix B450-F. You have to use Fat partitions and probably 32GB or less flash drives for it to read the cap files for Bios updates. I tried with a 64GB e-fat partition but it would not recognize it. So keep your 4GB-16GB flash drives handy.
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FAT32 can handle up to 32gigs.
Which is why i always keep 8-32gig flash drives on hand.
8gb is also a very nice size for a OS restore USB.
 
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aigomorla said:
only incentive i see you on that upgrade is if your still playing in 1080p on a game which is breaking over 200fps and you have a 240fps monitor.

Otherwise its a wash, unless you really need the extra cores for something else.
Your much better off investing in another SSD or a nVME as it will give you more storage for games and other things.
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Not quite : 32" 4K@60Hz.
NVME it will be.

Oh and btw, I checked and my B450 mobo tells me my lovely RX6800 runs its PCIE@8X only (NVME drive being the culprit). Since it is B450 it also is PCIEv3.

PCIE3@8X insted of PCIE4@16X might bring a real world BW issue ? It's about a fourth of the theoretical BW after all...
 
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Thibsie said:
Not quite : 32" 4K@60Hz.
NVME it will be.
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4K your bottle neck will ALWAYS be GPU.
So yes... i agree with your choice.. nVME is probably a better investment.

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Oh and btw, I checked and my B450 mobo tells me my lovely RX6800 runs its PCIE@8X only (NVME drive being the culprit). Since it is B450 it also is PCIEv3
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Do you already have more then 1 nVME?
If your only using 1, it should allow you to run in 16x.
If not, your probably using the wrong nVME port.
 
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Thibsie said:
Now that I upgraded my old GTX1060 to RX6800XT, maybe my 5600XT might get refreshed to 5800X3D.

I'm not sure I play enough to justrify it though. I might keep the cash to a future upgrade to AM5 once prices settle down (cheap Zen5 when Zen6 comes ?)
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I opted to go to a 5800X3D (from a 3700X) because its way cheaper to upgrade to that CPU than it is to go to an X670 board and 7K CPU. While at the same time having better performance in games than most 7K CPUs.
 
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Thibsie said:
Not quite : 32" 4K@60Hz.
NVME it will be.

Oh and btw, I checked and my B450 mobo tells me my lovely RX6800 runs its PCIE@8X only (NVME drive being the culprit). Since it is B450 it also is PCIEv3.

PCIE3@8X insted of PCIE4@16X might bring a real world BW issue ? It's about a fourth of the theoretical BW after all...
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PCIe 8x is not going to bottleneck your GPU. There have been a lot of tests with various lane widths and PCIe gens. Its also pretty common for the GPU slot to run at 8x if you have NVMe drives.
 
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Kudos to AMD for continuing to optimize Zen 3. I know a lot of you hate userbenchmark. I only use it to compare apples to apples. When I update chipsets, drivers, bios etc. I run the benchmark to make sure my components are functioning correctly.

I do not have a second to none approach with my PC builds. I take a value approach to everything. So after updating to the latest AMD AGESA bios (5003) for Asus B450-F and chipset drivers. I am seeing a 100% tile of the 5600 which is a 109% score. I am seeing a 10% bump in my E-Die Micron sticks from 106% to 116% which is unheard of from all of my testing. Latency is down 10ms for the DDR4 sticks. Which means it's either the new AGESA from AMD or the chipsets or a combination of both.

While Intel has the shoot for the moon approach. What you see it was you get. Wait until next gen and buy a new motherboard. AMD is the little engine to could. It's like Christmas in March with these performance improvements. Nicely done, AMD!

Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING Performance Results - UserBenchmark
 
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I know this thread has fallen by the wayside, but just wanted to toss out there that I snagged a $101 all in 5600x to replace a 2200g in my suddenly popular (thanks to Hogwarts Legacy) spare computer with my old 980Ti.

5600x's seem to still be going for $150 brand new, and still largely going for $120 or used, so 33% off new aint too shabby for a still newish drop in upgrade I think.

Given GPU prices are still kinda nuts, even used, and the 980ti does yeoman's work at 1080p so long as its fed correctly with the right CPU, I'll probaby stick with this build for couch gaming for the foreseable future.

Like my last used purchase saga for the sig rig, I'll update when it actually arrives and how my 980Ti does.
 
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I picked up a 5600X last year for the same money. Set it to ECO mode with the +200MHz boost, and it pushes a 6600XT just fine. Runs cool and quiet in one of my NR200 with a 120mm AIO. No sacrifices like with the Cezanne 5500 at that price either.

I probably won't move on from AM4 until after Zen 5 is out. Or if AM5 gets a fun desktop APU to play with. Whichever comes first.
 
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