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Question AMD Ryzen 5000 - AVAILABILITY

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fleshconsumed

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I wonder if 2 someones went to 5900X or 5950X? :laughing:

(No, I am not trying to troll or be mean, I saw that and chuckled.)
There is no way of knowing what those two guys decided to get. They could have gone for 11th gen. Back in the day before the chip shortage my local Microcenter used to have steady supply of open box CPUs, both Intel and AMD alike. In fact that's how I got my 3700X for around $270 shortly after release and 3900X for $425 which is less than what they're going now on eBay a year later.
 

DrMrLordX

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Just so you know, if you're looking to buy a 5800x or 5600x, you um . . . may wish to look at eBay? I'm not going to list ANY specific auctions or even hint at one by mentioning the prices for auctions that are still outstanding, but I think I saw a 5800x sell for $170??? And there were two of them before the auction went away?

The only CPU holding its price is 5900x, which sells for about as much as a 5950x on eBay right now.

It looks like the new availability of Vermeer CPUs is forcing the scalpers to dump inventory. They're cutting their losses. Used and even new-in-box Vermeer CPUs are going for insane prices right now.
 
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Hitman928

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Just so you know, if you're looking to buy a 5800x or 5600x, you um . . . may wish to look at eBay? I'm not going to list ANY specific auctions or even hint at one by mentioning the prices for auctions that are still outstanding, but I think I saw a 5800x sell for $170??? And there were two of them before the auction went away?

The only CPU holding its price is 5900x, which sells for about as much as a 5950x on eBay right now.

It looks like the new availability of Vermeer CPUs is forcing the scalpers to dump inventory. They're cutting their losses. Used and even new-in-box Vermeer CPUs are going for insane prices right now.
Let me guess, the ones selling for ~$170 are sellers with little to no sale history? Most likely scams, there's been quite a few of those. Looks like there were many used 5800x CPUs sold on Ebay yesterday for close to $400. It doesn't look like a non-scammer would need to price at 5800x anywhere near $170 to move a new unit. It does look like 2nd hand market prices are below MSRP now (~$400) but anything significantly below that is gonna be a scammer.
 

Kenmitch

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Let me guess, the ones selling for ~$170 are sellers with little to no sale history? Most likely scams, there's been quite a few of those. Looks like there were many used 5800x CPUs sold on Ebay yesterday for close to $400. It doesn't look like a non-scammer would need to price at 5800x anywhere near $170 to move a new unit. It does look like 2nd hand market prices are below MSRP now (~$400) but anything significantly below that is gonna be a scammer.
I sell my used items locally on OfferUp and haven't had any issues yet. I just pad my price a little as everybody likes to haggle in the end.
 

B-Riz

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I sell my used items locally on OfferUp and haven't had any issues yet. I just pad my price a little as everybody likes to haggle in the end.
Do you like that better than using craigslist? I have had ok luck selling stuff on CL.
 

Kenmitch

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Do you like that better than using craigslist? I have had ok luck selling stuff on CL.
I think most people use the apps these days. OfferUp works best for me in my local area. I haven't really posted anything on Craigslist lately, but look from time to time to see if there's anything interesting to me.
 

Kenmitch

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Every day I enter the Newegg shuffle and every night I receive an email informing me that I was not chosen.... :eek:
lol same here, but there's nothing I need anyways. I only enter to increase the other guys odds of winning. I figure I have better chances of being struck by lightning.
 

DrMrLordX

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Let me guess, the ones selling for ~$170 are sellers with little to no sale history? Most likely scams, there's been quite a few of those. Looks like there were many used 5800x CPUs sold on Ebay yesterday for close to $400. It doesn't look like a non-scammer would need to price at 5800x anywhere near $170 to move a new unit. It does look like 2nd hand market prices are below MSRP now (~$400) but anything significantly below that is gonna be a scammer.
Honestly I didn't think to look until after the auction was gone. But I was seeing price action at $300, not $400, for the 5800x. At least half a dozen at that price level. There were 5600x CPUs going for ~$220. It was nuts. Prices were dropping like Bitcoin.
 

Hitman928

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Honestly I didn't think to look until after the auction was gone. But I was seeing price action at $300, not $400, for the 5800x. At least half a dozen at that price level. There were 5600x CPUs going for ~$220. It was nuts. Prices were dropping like Bitcoin.
You can look at just recently sold items to check what the going rates are. It looks like prices have continued to fall a bit and now a 5800x goes for between $350 to $400. There are a few cheaper ones sprinkled in, but they are from accounts with very little or no feedback which means they are most likely scams. There have been a ton of scammers pushing cheap fake Zen 3 listings to take advantage of the crazy demand. It's not as bad as the GPU side, but there's still quite a bit of them. The 5600x is going for below MSRP as well. The 5900x and 5950x are still going for above retail, but not by as nearly as much as they were and not enough for someone trying to flip them after a retail purchase to make much of a profit. Hopefully in the next few weeks they'll all be readily available without having to pay over MSRP.
 

Golgatha

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You can look at just recently sold items to check what the going rates are. It looks like prices have continued to fall a bit and now a 5800x goes for between $350 to $400. There are a few cheaper ones sprinkled in, but they are from accounts with very little or no feedback which means they are most likely scams. There have been a ton of scammers pushing cheap fake Zen 3 listings to take advantage of the crazy demand. It's not as bad as the GPU side, but there's still quite a bit of them. The 5600x is going for below MSRP as well. The 5900x and 5950x are still going for above retail, but not by as nearly as much as they were and not enough for someone trying to flip them after a retail purchase to make much of a profit. Hopefully in the next few weeks they'll all be readily available without having to pay over MSRP.
My experience locally is the 5900X is the only CPU selling out quickly. 5600X and 5800X have been in stock for months now. 5950X stays in stock pretty regularly over the last month or so, probably because it's simply pretty expensive.
 

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Still wondering if my 2600 would be better replaced with 3600 or 5600, considering prices.
If 5xxx are indeed the last CPUs for AM4 (most probably), prices might still lower later for 5xxx. Hence, right now, 3600x might be a better deal. Mmm dunno...
I won't upgrade MB/RAM for a couple years so there's that.
 

Ranulf

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Still wondering if my 2600 would be better replaced with 3600 or 5600, considering prices.
If 5xxx are indeed the last CPUs for AM4 (most probably), prices might still lower later for 5xxx. Hence, right now, 3600x might be a better deal. Mmm dunno...
I won't upgrade MB/RAM for a couple years so there's that.
As long as you have good mobo compatibility I'd go with a 5000 series chip if bothering to upgrade. A 3600 is hovering around its original MSRP of $200 up to $220 if in stock. At that price I'd just jump to a 5600 if you're itching to upgrade.
 
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Golgatha

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Still wondering if my 2600 would be better replaced with 3600 or 5600, considering prices.
If 5xxx are indeed the last CPUs for AM4 (most probably), prices might still lower later for 5xxx. Hence, right now, 3600x might be a better deal. Mmm dunno...
I won't upgrade MB/RAM for a couple years so there's that.
That's a really nice motherboard and you have plenty of RAM. Unless your budget can't stretch enough for the 5600X, I'd go with the 5600X.
 
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blckgrffn

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Around here (Minneapolis) I have been seeing 5800x for as low as $340 on Craigslist.

Every post the same:

"My 5900x showed up so I need to get rid of this thing!"

I never thought I would buy more than the 5600x, but I've bought two 5800x's second hand now. Not at that great of pricing, of course, but I love second hand CPUs because they either work when you get them or they don't. Moving parts being zero is a huge plus.

Anyway, just encouraging deal shoppers to consider checking their local listings for what's likely a short term 5800x dump. It's a solid CPU, it might just take a tad more setting up than the others due to the wonk power settings they get out of the box.

No chance I would buy a new Zen 2 CPU now outside of some crazy deal. You can get decent money out of a Zen+ and get all the way to the final AM4 CPU iteration.
 
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Golgatha

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Around here (Minneapolis) I have been seeing 5800x for as low as $340 on Craigslist.

Every post the same:

"My 5900x showed up so I need to get rid of this thing!"

I never thought I would buy more than the 5600x, but I've bought two 5800x's second hand now. Not at that great of pricing, of course, but I love second hand CPUs because they either work when you get them or they don't. Moving parts being zero is a huge plus.

Anyway, just encouraging deal shoppers to consider checking their local listings for what's likely a short term 5800x dump. It's a solid CPU, it might just take a tad more setting up than the others due to the wonk power settings they get out of the box.

No chance I would buy a new Zen 2 CPU now outside of some crazy deal. You can get decent money out of a Zen+ and get all the way to the final AM4 CPU iteration.
I got my 5950X, my oldest son got my 5800X , my step-son got his 5600X, my file server got his 3700X, and my 3600 is going up for sale soon. :D

To your point, I got the 5800X on black friday last year when any and all 5000 series were next to impossible to find. If I didn't have other systems to upgrade, I'd be all "Got my 5950X, need to sell this 5800X" as well.

P.S. My youngest son has a 9900K, which is basically a halo chip for his Z390 motherboard, and thank goodness for that; I'm tired of installing CPUs!
 
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blckgrffn

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I got my 5950X, my oldest son got my 5800X, my step-son got his 5600X, my file server got his 3700X, and my 3600 is going up for sale soon. :D
Love it :D That's a great waterfall!

My wife got my 3600 and I put the 2700x back on the forums here for what I paid for it. I get plenty of solid deals, I hope that this helped put my deal karma back towards balanced!
 
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