The most hilarious part of it all, is that with those prior APUs that destroyed intel's APUs in terms of GPU performance, these boards were full of people claiming that it doesn't matter because the CPU performance is so weak. Well now these Ryzen APUs have a much stronger CPU and still obliterates the intel APU's GPU performance, competing around the same performance as a low end discrete GPU like the 1030. Maybe somebody could explain the advantage of having those 2 components over the single Ryzen APU at the same level of performance.
Its shifting goals. Looking at the RRP of the Ryzen 3 2200G at $99,it looks like it will be cheaper than the Core i3 8100,faster than a Ryzen 3 1200,overclockable and have a integrated graphics solution capable of even running some popular games reasonably OK(Overwatch,etc) and a solid CPU cooler to boot. Then you factor in the cheaper motherboards,and so on it looks a compelling all-round package. One CCX might also even help with some older games as well.
So even if someone wants a better card,I doubt for 90% of games it will be a bottleneck with the kind of cards,someone who buys a $99 CPU would pair them with.
Its even worse when cards are so expensive due to mining - even lower end ones are being affected which is crazy.
Also computerbase.de reporting on Intel hiring a crisis management firm for their security issues,also mentioned an interesting thing:
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Intel postpones product launches
Internally, the problems of recent weeks at Intel have already caused the shifts of new products. New CPUs and motherboards now without the right patches to publish, would probably only pour oil into the fire, so the upcoming launches are once exposed. Of these, in addition to the new NUCs with
Gemini Lake and
Kaby Lake-G probably also affected
Coffee Lake , whose second wave of CPUs and motherboards is already in the starting blocks. For
CES 2018 , these were already behind closed doors to see whether the known date of
late Q1 or April can be held, but now remains questionable.
This hints that entry level Coffee Lake motherboards are delayed and also by extension the lower priced Coffee Lake CPUs like the dual core Pentiums.
So at this point,a Ryzen 3 2200G and A320 or B350 motherboard is going to be cheaper than any Intel Core i3 8100 combo and a G4560 combo is on a platform with poor value CPUs in most of the world,and Ryzen is getting a refresh with better performance. In the UK for example even a Core i5 7500 is still £159 on Amazon.
They are worried someone might buy the AMD CPU over say an Intel Pentium or Core i3,so by making blanket and disingenuous statements that all integrated graphics cannot run games,they can try their best to invalidate one big advantage AMD has over Intel and push Intel,ie,its 10% in a game at 720p using a £1000 graphics card or something like that(or whatever the number might be),with a motherboard which currently costs as much as the flipping CPU. Also,I predict once the Ryzen APUs are released for desktop even if the reviews are very positive,some will start suddenly pushing the Coffee Lake Pentium and lower end boards even if it takes months to appear,and say a make belief GT2030 appearing "soon" even if the whole shebang would cost more overall.
If you look at things a different way even a Ryzen 3 2200G and a GT1030 will still cost less than a Ryzen 3 1200 or Core i3 8100 with the same graphics card. So unless the Ryzen 3 2200G has some weird CPU performance bug,I am not even seeing why it should not even be considered for its CPU performance alone for the $99 RRP,even ignoring the integrated graphics. Adding solid integrated graphics looks like the icing on the cake.
Oh well,you can't always please all of the people all of the time.