AMD Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G APUs performance unveiled

[daveybrat]

Just wondering, but how many are planning on doing a Ryzen APU build, either for themselves or for others?

I'm 100% going to do a 2200G build for my HTPC. Than later in April i'll upgrade my main PC with a Ryzen 2 platform.

I don't game nearly as much as i used to so a 2200G system will be more fun for my needs.

 

[wahdangun]

You can also get the same performance for 120.00 less in an i3 8100.

yeah, but you also had to buy z370 motherboard and that thing is quite expensive for budget build

 

[mohit9206]

Don't lose sight of what this is for. It ain't for gamers, its a cheap all rounder. I picked up an i5 7600 non K in May 2016 for around 250 USD, if you can get most of the performance for $100 less - guess what AMD is targeting?

Yeah this is what a lot of people here are not getting.
While the 2200G is great value, it will never replace a g4560+1050 combo for AAA gaming.
Any AAA games released in the last 3 or so years will almost be unplayable on 2200G.
If you don't play graphics intensive games then 2200G is the best apu money can buy.
People criticizing g4560 because its dual core is understandable, but as of right now and even 2 years from now, g4560+1050 will be the superior setup.
Of course ideally the best budget gaming combo is 2200G+1050ti if one can spend a bit extra. I was originally considering ryzen 1200 but now there's literally no reason to choose 1200 over 2200G even if one will use dedicated graphics because u have the on board graphics to use temporarily if your graphics card breaks or needs to be sent for RMA.

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[whm1974]

I'm 100% going to do a 2200G build for my HTPC. Than later in April i'll upgrade my main PC with a Ryzen 2 platform.

I don't game nearly as much as i used to so a 2200G system will be more fun for my needs.

Then the 2200G should be fine for your use case.

 

[mohit9206]

Just wondering, but how many are planning on doing a Ryzen APU build, either for themselves or for others?

I will likely do 2200G+1050ti combo when my current Sandy Bridge system dies.
I haven't been able to play any aaa games released in last 2 years because i have a 2c/2t Pentium from Sandy Bridge era and the gpu is also very weak gt 730 gddr5.
So ryzen 2200G+1050ti is a great upgrade path. Just praying for ram prices to drop.

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[whm1974]

I will likely do 2200G+1050ti combo when my current Sandy Bridge system dies.
I haven't been able to play any aaa games released in last 2 years because i have a 2c/2t Pentium from Sandy Bridge era and the gpu is also very weak gt 730 gddr5.
So ryzen 2200G+1050ti is a great upgrade path. Just praying for ram prices to drop.

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Yeah I hear you about memory prices, and I also hope that GPU prices drop as well.

 

[neblogai]

I will likely do 2200G+1050ti combo when my current Sandy Bridge system dies.
I haven't been able to play any aaa games released in last 2 years because i have a 2c/2t Pentium from Sandy Bridge era and the gpu is also very weak gt 730 gddr5.
So ryzen 2200G+1050ti is a great upgrade path. Just praying for ram prices to drop.

If you are on 8GB RAM- consider just getting a used Sandy/Ivy Bridge i7 CPU for ~€100 + €25 cooler, and save a ~€100, or spend that on getting a GTX1060 instead of a GTX1050Ti.

 

[tamz_msc]

If you are on 8GB RAM- consider just getting a used Sandy/Ivy Bridge i7 CPU for ~€100 + €25 cooler, and save a ~€100, or spend that on getting a GTX1060 instead of a GTX1050Ti.

It's easy to bring up how wonderful the used-component market is in the USA while being totally oblivious of the ways the markets work in other parts of the world.

 

[mohit9206]

It's easy to bring up how wonderful the used-component market is in the USA while being totally oblivious of the ways the markets work in other parts of the world.

True.
Its like very difficult to find reliable used parts here.Either they're so used and beat up that it will die soon enough or theyre lighly used but priced almost as high as new parts.So new is the only way whether be it gpu or cpu.PLus i like having warranty and peace of mind.

 

[neblogai]

It's easy to bring up how wonderful the used-component market is in the USA while being totally oblivious of the ways the markets work in other parts of the world.

I'm not from US. I've checked prices here in Lithuania, and also confirmed the same prices to be in UK.

 

[whm1974]

True.
Its like very difficult to find reliable used parts here.Either they're so used and beat up that it will die soon enough or theyre lighly used but priced almost as high as new parts.So new is the only way whether be it gpu or cpu.PLus i like having warranty and peace of mind.

I'm wondering if people in other countries tend to replace their computers much less often then Americans do?

 

[tamz_msc]

I'm not from US. I've checked prices here in Lithuania, and also confirmed the same prices to be in UK.

Then you should have checked where the OP is from. He's in India and used i7 2600/3770s, which are derived from business workstations, cost the equivalent of ~200$ on ebay. These are the non-K parts - you won't find any K-parts anywhere for those prices.

 

[neblogai]

Then you should have checked where the OP is from. He's in India and used i7 2600/3770s, which are derived from business workstations, cost the equivalent of ~200$ on ebay. These are the non-K parts - you won't find any K-parts anywhere for those prices.

Well- 1) There is no info about his residence state in his profile; and 2) I offered to consider an option- which could have turn out better or worse deal than what is possible here in Europe. What's wrong with giving a possibly good advise?

 

[tamz_msc]

Well- 1) There is no info about his residence state in his profile; and 2) I offered to consider an option- which could have turn out better or worse deal than what is possible here in Europe. What's wrong with giving a possibly good advise?

I don't have an issue with your advice for being well-intentioned, it's just that it wasn't well-researched.

 

[ao_ika_red]

I'm wondering if people in other countries tend to replace their computers much less often then Americans do?

If you guys have problem of getting rid your sandy bridge / phenom ii era parts, it will be very welcomed here because lots of people still using P4 and C2D PC.

 

[whm1974]

If you guys have problem of getting rid your sandy bridge / phenom ii era parts, it will be very welcomed here because lots of people still using P4 and C2D PC.

OMFG, no one should have to use hardware that old.

 

[Peter Watts]

Thinking of upgrading my ancient computer to serve as a HTPC/light-gaming PC, to stream to the living room using the Steam Link connected to the TV. Will upgrade the GPU in the near future but i never really owned a game-PC, and am fully satisfied with console level graphics for gaming.... Will the 2400g with 8 GB ram cut it for streaming my desktop via Steam Link using hardware encoding? Or should i just opt for the cheaper 2200g and add a good GPU to the system straight away? I was hoping to bridge the gap and save up some money for a good GPU, whilst using the APU graphics for light gaming/media in the living...

I only need to upgrade my mobo, cpu and ram.

Cheers!

 

[moinmoin]

On most of the modern CPUs, vast majority of the power use on a CPU is taken up by the core. L3 takes few single digit W.

Yeah, the cut down L3 doesn't do that alone. Though with Zeppelin the overall uncore actually does take quite a chunk of the overall power use (really easy to see with the high idle power use multi-die chips like Threadripper and Epyc show). As the Raven Ridge APU die is optimized for mobile the uncore is less heavy than on the Zeppelin die.

Furthermore it seems AMD has worked specifically on said idle power use as that's what the new 400 chipset series is said to improve on compared to the otherwise fully compatible 300 series.

 

[neblogai]

Furthermore it seems AMD has worked specifically on said idle power use as that's what the new 400 chipset series is said to improve on compared to the otherwise fully compatible 300 series.

I wonder how much 400 chipset borrows from Raven Ridge. After all- lower power consumption of the 400-series hints at AMD making Zen+ better suited for laptops.

 

[ao_ika_red]

OMFG, no one should have to use hardware that old.

You'll find them mostly on urban and rural area. Younger people usually prefer laptops because it's easier to operate and much easier to get like their smartphone. The older ones, who probably bought their PC before laptops were powerful enough, keep it in their home and use it just like any other home appliances. If it ain't broken, don't replace it. "It's still capable for office work anyway", that's what they said.

 

[frozentundra123456]

yeah, but you also had to buy z370 motherboard and that thing is quite expensive for budget build

That is true, but supposedly cheaper motherboards are coming. Even if you add another 50.00 for the motherboard, the 8100 is still far cheaper. The main point I was trying to get at is that the real competitor to Ryzen is Coffee Lake. Previous KL is a poor value relative to either.

 

[nathanddrews]

But if you are going to add a discrete card, and are concerned about "future proofing", a hex core 1600 or i5 8400 at 200.00 makes more sense than 170.00 for the 2400 APU.

If you have the cash up front, yes, I agree. While more expensive in the long run, a lot of budget builders do it piecemeal. "I want a gaming computer now, but can only afford a 2400G." They are able to play the games they want to play right now by sacrificing some quality/fps. Then a few months or a year goes by, they get a dGPU and that 4C/8T APU still puts out decent performance. Then 2-3 years go by and they toss in a used Ryzen 3800X 24C/48T CPU and are GPU-limited while still playing LoL.

 

[whm1974]

Thinking of upgrading my ancient computer to serve as a HTPC/light-gaming PC, to stream to the living room using the Steam Link connected to the TV. Will upgrade the GPU in the near future but i never really owned a game-PC, and am fully satisfied with console level graphics for gaming.... Will the 2400g with 8 GB ram cut it for streaming my desktop via Steam Link using hardware encoding? Or should i just opt for the cheaper 2200g and add a good GPU to the system straight away? I was hoping to bridge the gap and save up some money for a good GPU, whilst using the APU graphics for light gaming/media in the living...

I only need to upgrade my mobo, cpu and ram.

Cheers!

TBH, it will be best to wait until the reviews are out before we can answer your question.

 

[whm1974]

OK I spec together a rig for under $500, and the Ryzen 3-1200 is just a placeholder for the 2200G, so tell me what you think.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rGcGm8

 

[Gideon]

OK I spec together a rig for under $500, and the Ryzen 3-1200 is just a placeholder for the 2200G, so tell me what you think.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rGcGm8

Looks nice, other than the single DIMM. But if you're not going to use the GPU for anything 3D, I guess it doesn't matter.