AMD Ryzen 3000 Builders Thread

[B-Riz]

Yea I don't know too many people who are thrilled about chipset fans coming back.

Well, the case I am using has 3 x 200mm fans in it with a variable speed controller, so it can get a bit wooshy turned up, will see how the board fan does with the PCIE4 NVME.

I'd rather have the fan on the board and be safe with some extra cooling than not have it and need it.

 

[Paul98]

The 3800x is available on amazon if anyone is looking for it

 

[MonkeyK]

FYI, At about noon Micro center let me reserve a 3900x for pickup tonight
Ordered an Aorus Master and 5700 to go along with it and maximize my bundle discount.

Big upgrade for me from my i5 2500k

 

[jackstar7]

Nice to see other people upgrading from the Sandy/Ivy era. Really feels like AMD finally brought us enough features and raw power to make the upgrade seem worth it after all these years.

What a fun time!

 

[Asterox]

FYI, At about noon Micro center let me reserve a 3900x for pickup tonight
Ordered an Aorus Master and 5700 to go along with it and maximize my bundle discount.

Big upgrade for me from my i5 2500k

From 4/4 cpu jump on 12/24 CPU, this is not your regular big upgrade.This is so let's say Transwarp CPU upgrade.

What you can call a big upgrade from i5 2500K(new 210$), well even Ryzen 5 3600 is big upgrade no doubt.

If you really need that kind of CPU performance, ok no problem.

 

[MonkeyK]

Main point was, 3900x in stock at MicroCenter

 

[phillyman36]

Main point was, 3900x in stock at MicroCenter

Yeah my Microcenter now has 10+ 3900x in stock.

 

[EXCellR8]

Grab em up people, the way Intel doesn't want you to!

 

[Markfw]

From what I have seen stock is a little shy on this release for some CPU's, and not sure AMD expected the 3900x to be as popular as it was, but this is definitely NOT a paper launch. Better availability than Ryzen 1000 series. They keep coming back in stock only a day or two later.

 

[B-Riz]

FYI, At about noon Micro center let me reserve a 3900x for pickup tonight
Ordered an Aorus Master and 5700 to go along with it and maximize my bundle discount.

Big upgrade for me from my i5 2500k

Ermahgerd, thank you for posting this!

Reserved!

I kinda gave up on getting a 3900X.

Luckily, I have not put anything together, so I can do a painless exchange.

 

[IEC]

Stock is way better for this launch than for Ryzen 1. Though getting the motherboard was the hard part back then.

3900X has come into stock multiple times at different vendors today.

Microcenter appears to have decent stock on the higher end SKUs at at least some locations now.

Best Buy is taking preorders arriving "soon" on the 3900X again.

 

[Markfw]

Stock is way better for this launch than for Ryzen 1. Though getting the motherboard was the hard part back then.

3900X has come into stock multiple times at different vendors today.

Microcenter appears to have decent stock on the higher end SKUs at at least some locations now.

Best Buy is taking preorders arriving "soon" on the 3900X again.

Well, I was not as picky about my motherboard with Ryzen 1000, I got an $89 ASRock pro 4 and put the 1800x in it on Day 1. When the Taichi became available, I got a 1700x to put in the Pro, and the Taichi got the 1800x.
Now my son has the 1700x for CAD work (a work computer) and I sold the 1800x, and its getting a 2700x, and the x470 gets a 3900x.

Musical chairs with computers.

 

[jackstar7]

The lack of ability to pre-order seems to have caught retailers without a true gauge of the demand for these chips. And I'm sure they've been burned before, so I get it, but it given how quickly the restocking is happening, it seems like AMD had the stock, but retailers were playing it safe so they didn't get stuck having to Bulldozer a bunch of chips out the back door.

 

[Markfw]

The 1000 series also had all sorts of bios problems. I can;t wait to see how my 3900x does on a x470 motherboard.

 

[B-Riz]

The lack of ability to pre-order seems to have caught retailers without a true gauge of the demand for these chips. And I'm sure they've been burned before, so I get it, but it given how quickly the restocking is happening, it seems like AMD had the stock, but retailers were playing it safe so they didn't get stuck having to Bulldozer a bunch of chips out the back door.

Yesterday, the Cleveland Micro Center store said they had 10 3900X at launch and stuff was getting dropped shipped straight to the store, not going through a distribution warehouse. Columbus said they had 30 for launch.

I think demand is so high because you don't *need* a new board to use 3900X, just good airflow on your VRM's

Or expensive CL14 B-Die either to get the most from the chip like Zen and Zen+.

 

[Markfw]

Yesterday, the Cleveland Micro Center store said they had 10 3900X at launch and stuff was getting dropped shipped straight to the store, not going through a distribution warehouse. Columbus said they had 30 for launch.

I think demand is so high because you don't *need* a new board to use 3900X, just good airflow on your VRM's

Or expensive CL14 B-Die either to get the most from the chip like Zen and Zen+.

Yes, I have a 240 mm AIO, and its top mounted. So it sucks cool air fron the bottom of the case, right past the VRMs and the hot air goes out the top. And with 4233 cl16 memory, I can run 3733 (the fastest at 1:1) easily, so no problem there. And with that cooling, I may beat the benchmarks using PBO (if it works) since they said if it runs cooler, it clocks higher.

 

[PClark99]

Updated my CPU and my Power Supply. Updated Chipset Drivers and away we go.

 

[GhostPirateLeChuck]

I'm in the middle of ordering parts for a 3900X build for work (I run lots of VMs in WS Pro, and multitask with apps running in Windows at the same time), and want to add 64GB RAM to it. I've got 32GB DDR3 in the current desktop I've got now (it still has a i7 2600K CPU), and some of these VMs need a minimum of 16GB RAM and 4 core *per instance*, so 64GB would at least give me some breathing room.

I guess my first question (of many), is how much difference would I see using 4x16GB 3200 CL16 DIMMs vs 3200 CL14 (or CL15) DIMMs? Corsair has a 64GB LPX kit with 16-18-18-36 timings for $300, while G.Skill has 64GB 3200 kits ranging from 16-18-18-38 for $328, 15-15-15-35 for $465, and 14-14-14-34 for $530. I'm only going to be gaming on the side, and even those aren't super demanding (more old school fighting games, shmups, etc...)

I'd love to try a pair of those 32GB DIMMs with 14-15-15-35 timings, but considering that NewEgg has a grand total of two kits, and the one that's "only" $670 is sold out (the other is an eye-watering $730), and they aren't on the QVL for any X570 board that I've seen, I don't relish the thought of being a guinea pig on this one.(if it were just $250, then sure).
FWIW, I've been leaning towards the Strix X570 E/F, and Aorus X570 Ultra/Master. Haven't settled on which one yet, especially because of the BIOS shenanigans ASUS played prior to launch, and their "ASUS Aura" software opening a hole in people's firewalls without asking.

PS.
Is it possible to change a username? I may or may not have been incredibly drunk when I created this account.

 

[EXCellR8]

^lol

 

[GhostPirateLeChuck]

In my defense, it must've seemed like a really funny idea at the time. deargodwhathaveIdone...

 

[IEC]

Just create a request/thread in Moderator Discussions.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Hey! My Ryzen R5 3600 arrived today, and I just installed it! Board is a Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI, a decent mid-grade B450 board, with BIOS update F40 with explicit CPU support for 3rd-Gen Ryzen CPUs.

So, it's basically working, put on my stock heatsink that I had on there, that was from an R3 1200. (*I sold my R5 1600 heatsink, the nice 95W TDP one, with the R3 1200 rig I sold. Sigh.) The heatsink that came in the box with the 3600 was no better, and looked possibly slightly smaller, if you can believe that.

HWMonitor shows single-core/idle boosting to 4.2Ghz. Hovering around 2.2Ghz at idle. Haven't tried an all-core load yet, will update.

Also, sadly, I lost two SATA ports on the board. I think that they were the SoC SATA ports driven off of the CPU. Not sure if I bent a pin or two on the CPU when I dropped it in (would be rare for me, it went in without force), or most likely, an immature AGESA or Gigabyte UEFI, that didn't quite "wire up" the SoC SATA ports. So my other two 512GB SSDs are inaccessable for now.

All the B450 chipset SATA ports (0-3) are working correctly, or at least, all detected.

RAM is 4x8GB Team Group Vulcan DDR4-3000, all running happily at XMP 3000 speeds, not sure what CAS, probably 16-18-18-38 or 40. They all ran successfully in this board with the R5 1600 too, at XMP speeds. This board has been great for RAM clocking.

Seems maybe a little faster? Hard to tell. I'm happy though. Only $200 for an upgrade, now it shows me running 4.2Ghz, rather than 3.4Ghz.

 

[Markfw]

I'm in the middle of ordering parts for a 3900X build for work (I run lots of VMs in WS Pro, and multitask with apps running in Windows at the same time), and want to add 64GB RAM to it. I've got 32GB DDR3 in the current desktop I've got now (it still has a i7 2600K CPU), and some of these VMs need a minimum of 16GB RAM and 4 core *per instance*, so 64GB would at least give me some breathing room.

I guess my first question (of many), is how much difference would I see using 4x16GB 3200 CL16 DIMMs vs 3200 CL14 (or CL15) DIMMs? Corsair has a 64GB LPX kit with 16-18-18-36 timings for $300, while G.Skill has 64GB 3200 kits ranging from 16-18-18-38 for $328, 15-15-15-35 for $465, and 14-14-14-34 for $530. I'm only going to be gaming on the side, and even those aren't super demanding (more old school fighting games, shmups, etc...)

I'd love to try a pair of those 32GB DIMMs with 14-15-15-35 timings, but considering that NewEgg has a grand total of two kits, and the one that's "only" $670 is sold out (the other is an eye-watering $730), and they aren't on the QVL for any X570 board that I've seen, I don't relish the thought of being a guinea pig on this one.(if it were just $250, then sure).
FWIW, I've been leaning towards the Strix X570 E/F, and Aorus X570 Ultra/Master. Haven't settled on which one yet, especially because of the BIOS shenanigans ASUS played prior to launch, and their "ASUS Aura" software opening a hole in people's firewalls without asking.

PS.
Is it possible to change a username? I may or may not have been incredibly drunk when I created this account.

IEC answered your username question.

As for the memory. I would recommend 4 x 16 gig at least 3200. Faster than that or better timings may or may not affect the 3900x. I have a build on the way, so I can only say by the reviews, it only marginally affects performance.

 

[Space Tyrant]

I was planning a small, quiet, low power machine to run 24/7 for dev testing, but a case order last month went awry and I wound up with an extra case. Then, Best Buy had that C6H + Ryzen 1600 offer for $200, so I ordered that. Having already just bought a little Asrock B450M Pro4 for the aforementioned project, I now find myself with an extra MB as well -- and the 1600 gives me an extra CPU too. Oops!

Meanwhile, my 3600X, ordered Sunday morning, was to become the heart of the lil server, but now the 1600 is threatening to take that role. That system is idling at 30 watts and runs 8 GB of my test servers at under 50 watts.

I guess that frees up the 3600X for various 'scientific' projects... Oh, well, I guess I'll order another PSU and a bit of RAM now, heh.

BTW, the BB sale (here: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/amd-16...age/9999300000000393.p?skuId=9999300000000393 ) is still up. Thanks to whoever posted that a few pages back!

 

[VirtualLarry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/c7upru/_/esj2322

PBO for 3rd-Gen Ryzen is a feature for ALL suported mobo chipsets, not just X570.