AMD Ryzen 3000 Builders Thread

[Fanatical Meat]

Anyone worried that there are not going to be "budget" X570 boards?

I guess $200 ish?

I already have an X399 Taichi.

If they are as much as a TR board, I may pass on Zen2 until TR3 is out.

I had a similar thought then realized there will be around 50 boards at launch. All 50 can’t be $200+
However I doubt we will see sub $100 either.

 

[Markfw]

Anyone worried that there are not going to be "budget" X570 boards?

I guess $200 ish?

I already have an X399 Taichi.

If they are as much as a TR board, I may pass on Zen2 until TR3 is out.

Since you already have a TR4 board, I would see what deals you can find. I just got a 2990WX WITH a heatkiller IV waterblock for $1200. I can sell my old water block for $100, and so for $1100, I have 32 cores and 64 threads. Then sell your 4790 and get a 3900x with X570.

 

[B-Riz]

Since you already have a TR4 board, I would see what deals you can find. I just got a 2990WX WITH a heatkiller IV waterblock for $1200. I can sell my old water block for $100, and so for $1100, I have 32 cores and 64 threads. Then sell your 4790 and get a 3900x with X570.

Yeah, I bought the X399 Taichi and 1900X as a stepping stone to TR3, as it is supposed to fix the memory latency issue.

I still would like to pickup a 3900X and will probably pre-order one, but, I really don't want to spend more than $240 on a board, just because of X399.

Ideally I would go 24/48 on TR3.

 

[jackstar7]

Strongly leaning towards the 3700X. Love the low power and should be a solid upgrade from my 3770K.

Already picked up 32GB of DDR4 and a 2TB NVME (spacing out my spending). Just waiting to find the right mobo and will revel in tearing apart my system to rebuild it with several new pieces. Also have to figure out what to do with my old parts. Either repurpose into a itx build, or just hold onto them for a later project.

 

[B-Riz]

Strongly leaning towards the 3700X. Love the low power and should be a solid upgrade from my 3770K.

Already picked up 32GB of DDR4 and a 2TB NVME (spacing out my spending). Just waiting to find the right mobo and will revel in tearing apart my system to rebuild it with several new pieces. Also have to figure out what to do with my old parts. Either repurpose into a itx build, or just hold onto them for a later project.

The 3700X on a mini itx board is sooo tempting, lol. I am debating a new NAS / Media server after cutting the cord and it is either that or a 3600X later on.

 

[UsandThem]

Anyone worried that there are not going to be "budget" X570 boards?

I guess $200 ish?

I imagine at launch, the motherboard manufacturers will likely launch some of their pricier offerings at first. There is an early adopter "tax" for getting the newest tech when it first launches.

But after 60-90 or so days after launch, there will be numerous entry-level and mid-range offerings popping up. Then the B550 boards will come soon after that. Just like happened with the X470 and B450 launches.

 

[B-Riz]

I imagine at launch, the motherboard manufacturers will likely launch some of their pricier offerings at first. There is an early adopter "tax" for getting the newest tech when it first launches.

But after 60-90 or so days after launch, there will be numerous entry-level and mid-range offerings popping up. Then the B550 boards will come soon after that. Just like happened with the X470 and B450 launches.

True.

Linus pointed out in his video the X570 stack is huge, and, board makers do not push that much if the CPUs are not going to sell, and, there are $200 starting Zen2, so, there have to be $100 - $140 ish boards at some point.

I could see a "budget" X570 with basic LAN, Audio, and I/O that *could* run a 3900X at stock speeds.

 

[Topweasel]

I had a similar thought then realized there will be around 50 boards at launch. All 50 can’t be $200+
However I doubt we will see sub $100 either.

If it's anything like the original Ryzen launch. That's total of how many boards will be in the channel and not how many different boards will be available.

Joking of course.

I am interested in seeing what they do for high end ITX.

 

[B-Riz]

Looks like a nice storage upgrade is incoming. I do love RAID 0.

 

[tvdang7]

Does anyone see a real reason to get a 3800x over a 3700x? I would assume this is the same scenario that the 1700 was to the 1800x . lower TDP but doesn't mean anything can still overclock just fine. the 2700 however could not match the 2700x clocked easily.

 

[Topweasel]

Just look at the 9900k for that. My guess is 1-4 core power usage is much more manageable and the 105w is for high core usage clock speed and keeping it within TDP. So the 3700x might be really close in light load but will get wrecked at high load.

But that's just my guess.

 

[UsandThem]

Does anyone see a real reason to get a 3800x over a 3700x? I would assume this is the same scenario that the 1700 was to the 1800x . lower TDP but doesn't mean anything can still overclock just fine. the 2700 however could not match the 2700x clocked easily.

We're going to have to wait for official reviews to know for sure, but my guess at this point it will be similar to what the difference was between the 2700 and 2700X : https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_2700/16.html

 

[Markfw]

True.

Linus pointed out in his video the X570 stack is huge, and, board makers do not push that much if the CPUs are not going to sell, and, there are $200 starting Zen2, so, there have to be $100 - $140 ish boards at some point.

I could see a "budget" X570 with basic LAN, Audio, and I/O that *could* run a 3900X at stock speeds.

that has CC caption, and I watched the whole thing. WOW. Too bad I am not an investor, or I would be buying AMD stock, at least for 2 years.

Anyway, the fact the the MOTHERBOARD max socket power is 300 watts on x570 is amazing. WOW, what overclocks can we see ?

 

[B-Riz]

Does anyone see a real reason to get a 3800x over a 3700x? I would assume this is the same scenario that the 1700 was to the 1800x . lower TDP but doesn't mean anything can still overclock just fine. the 2700 however could not match the 2700x clocked easily.

At max load, the chip will try to keep 3.6 on all cores and 65w total power. 3800x is going to be 3.9 all core max load in 105w. So, if you do not want to OC, get the 3800x.

 

[IEC]

I'll probably build at least one 8c/16t Ryzen 3000 series rig with X570 board and wait for the 16c/32t parts to upgrade my others.

I suspect the single chiplet configuration will be best for gaming. If that turns out not to be true then I would consider 12+ cores.

 

[Topweasel]

I'll probably build at least one 8c/16t Ryzen 3000 series rig with X570 board and wait for the 16c/32t parts to upgrade my others.

I suspect the single chiplet configuration will be best for gaming. If that turns out not to be true then I would consider 12+ cores.

I think its going to be a bit of a wash. They still decided that the 3900x has the highest top clocks. So you run into a situation where on lightly threaded games the 3900x wins and on highly threaded games the 3800x wins, which in retrospect is counter intuitive.

 

[VirtualLarry]

The main reason I never upgraded to a 2700X build was because of AMD motherboards only having one full speed M.2 slot, and I need two.

My ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F ATX board has two M.2 PCI-E 3.0 x4 sockets. So yes, two full-speed ones. I have two Intel 660p 1TB NVMe SSDs in them, in RAID-0, just for kicks. (Gotta tell myself to install a 4TB HDD in there, and set up daily backups from SSDs to HDD with Macrium too.)

Edit: The primary CPU PCI-E 3.0 x16 slot, is split three ways then, x8/x4/x4(NVMe). So the top GPU slot gets PCI-E 3.0 x8, the second x4, and the last x4 goes to the secondary NVMe socket.

 

[texasnightowl]

Going back and forth between 3600x/3700x/3800x now. The only demanding thing I use my computer for is gaming (Total War, Fallout 4, Xcom, etc). So I'm leaning toward the 6 cores, but I also know I'll be keeping it for years. Hell, I'm still on the 2500k I picked up in Fall 2011. It'lll be matched with a 2080.

I'm in same boat basically. Still rocking my 2500k from fall 2011 too. I'm thinking the 3600 or the 3700x for myself. Staying with a 1080ti though.

 

[happy medium]

in case you missed this.


https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3000-series-and-x570-chipset-compatibility-quick-guide/

 

[Markfw]

in case you missed this.

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https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3000-series-and-x570-chipset-compatibility-quick-guide/

I don't think anybody missed it, What is your point ? Or are you just trolling again ?

 

[mopardude87]

I could see a "budget" X570 with basic LAN, Audio, and I/O that *could* run a 3900X at stock speeds.

I got a "budget" z370 motherboard with my 8700 non k and its held up well with no issues. Now if this x570 budget motherboard is also micro atx like my current one is up for debate. I would gladly accept a 3900 non x or a board that can effectively run a stock 3900X in a second. I haven't had a urge to overclock a cpu since i tape modded a Q6600 to 3ghz last year in a hold me over Dell. It's usually been threads before clocks that have made me do upgrades.

I keep giggling at the idea of having this dominating 24 threaded monster in a build. Everything else in the line up feels very much like yesterday honestly. I don't need them but dang it i want them.

 

[coercitiv]

I don't think anybody missed it, What is your point ? Or are you just trolling again ?

He was probably trying to tell us that major motherboard makers such as Asus, MSI, ASRock have already announced BIOS support for their X370 and B350 boards.

 

[Markfw]

He was probably trying to tell us that major motherboard makers such as Asus, MSI, ASRock have already announced BIOS support for their X370 and B350 boards.

Right, but this has been posted and talked about to death, why did he have to bring it up again ?

 

[coercitiv]

The most important piece of information that needs to be disseminated from that article is motherboard makers will include badges / stickers to signal compatible motherboards on the shelves.

 

[Markfw]

The most important piece of information that needs to be disseminated from that article is motherboard makers will include badges / stickers to signal compatible motherboards on the shelves.

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That was NOT in his post. Maybe in the link, but we don't all click on every link.

So my question is, why did you have to bring this out, and he did not.