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AMD Radeon 6970/6950 Retail Pictured, released Dec 13-17, $500/$375 pricing

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Ares1214 said:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_580/27.html
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Though it's little more than semantics, technically RussianSensation has it right.

The 5870 provides on average 75% of the 580's performance.

The 580 is therefore on average 33% faster than the 5870 (except at 2560x1600 8xAA/16xAF, where it is considerably faster).

Really though, stating x is y% faster than z so the 6970 needs to be n% faster to compete...the fact is we don't have enough information to assume anything. One vendor gave an extremely wide percentage range that itself may not be accurate. It sucks but we need to wait for more solid numbers, gentlemen.
 
Mistwalker said:
Though it's little more than semantics, technically RussianSensation has it right.

The 5870 provides on average 75% of the 580's performance.

The 580 is therefore on average 33% faster than the 5870 (except at 2560x1600 8xAA/16xAF, where it is considerably faster).

Really though, stating x is y% faster than z so the 6970 needs to be n% faster to compete...the fact is we don't have enough information to assume anything. One vendor gave an extremely wide percentage range that itself may not be accurate. It sucks but we need to wait for more solid numbers, gentlemen.
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2560x1600 with 2gb ram, there it will be faster when cranking up AA etc...
I dont forsee it is faster in practice at 1920x1080, by much, due to we are looking at eyefinity or widescreen gaming at 3 screens for the cards to make a huge difference.

using eyefinity which the 580 cant do, its 100% faster 😉
That be a good review....if any site would dare do it.
 
What I find funny is AMD's use of words on the leaked slides.
"Most advanced DX11 GPU"...not fastest...make you wonder.
 
It'll be both.😉

Rumor out of an Australian retailer(this evening) pushing the NDA envelope is "Yes...it is indeed faster than GTX580"

Semper Fi :thumbsup:😎
 
flopper said:
2560x1600 with 2gb ram, there it will be faster when cranking up AA etc...
I dont forsee it is faster in practice at 1920x1080, by much, due to we are looking at eyefinity or widescreen gaming at 3 screens for the cards to make a huge difference.

using eyefinity which the 580 cant do, its 100% faster 😉
That be a good review....if any site would dare do it.
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You have the right of it. Not just the large frame buffer as in my experience 1.5GB is the sweet spot for 2560x1600 with AA in demanding games, but also AMD's superior texture fill rate will make the 6970/6950/6990 the best cards for 30" screens and 3 monitor gaming setups.

6970 will likely be 10-15% faster than a GTX 580 in general and in texture intensive titles like Crysis at high resolutions even faster. The same will hold true for 3D and 3-monitor gaming setups.

I think we will see NV again rush out a dual-gpu card after 6970/6950 hits to poach some sales by retaking the single card crown like they did rushing out the 580, then the 6990 will drop and re-take the single card crown.

Fasten your seatbelts! :thumbsup:
 
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Not to break my NDA, but I just benched the 6970 and it was 40,000% faster than the 580. It also broke the 580s nose with a helmet to helmet hit.
 
Axon said:
Not to break my NDA, but I just benched the 6970 and it was 40,000% faster than the 580. It also broke the 580s nose with a helmet to helmet hit.
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NDA drop seems to be dec15.

I heard the 6970 broke the Cern accelerator speed and produced antimatter that removed the first spot on the graphical card market. 😉
its all in our heads.
 
The latest rumor is AMD's newest demo for the 6970 combines tessellation and 3rd party 3D to have Chuck Norris actually punch you in the face. Fo' rizzle.
 
NV is not worried though. They will take an already proven architecture and using the maturity of the manufacturing process will create GPUs with higher clock settings, while staying in the same power envelope. Thus, with mind-blowing 50-100mhz GPU/shader clock speed increases, the GTX660/670/680 will be born in 2011.
 
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RussianSensation said:
NV is not worried though. They will take an already proven architecture and using the maturity of the manufacturing process will create GPUs with higher clock settings, while staying in the same power envelope. Thus, with mind-blowing 50-100mhz GPU/shader clock speed increases, the GTX660/670/680 will be born in 2011.
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This would be funny if it weren't probably true.
 
RussianSensation said:
NV is not worried though. They will take an already proven architecture and using the maturity of the manufacturing process will create GPUs with higher clock settings, while staying in the same power envelope. Thus, with mind-blowing 50-100mhz GPU/shader clock speed increases, the GTX660/670/680 will be born in 2011.
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As long as the 680 is faster than the 580. Unlike.....
 
Lonbjerg said:
He knows nothing...he's a lame creationist :thumbsdown:
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P&N is that way -->

Whether you agree of not, maybe think before you offend ~80% of the world's population.


Back OT - 6000 series can't come soon enough. Whether they are crowned the new king or lower the prices on Nvidia's cards, I need something soon.
 
busydude said:
WTF, sounds too good to be true.
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yeah, 30-40% faster than 580 is just ridiculous. that is so much faster than gtx 580 that amd would have had no reason to withhold info; there's nothing nvidia could do about that sort of barrage until 28nm, even a sandwich card would have trouble keeping up with that.

I would say that as a best case in cherry picked games on 2560x1600 @ 8xAA it's possible.

Skurge said:
Brian should be glad to hear the magic drivers are finally coming out 😛
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naw, silverforce is doing a better job now, I have no complaints any more.

It's easy to get caught up in pre-release hype, sometimes we just forget that very few people actually KNOW what's going on with a release. Especially with amd's recent cloak and daggar mentality, there probably aren't 10 people in the entire company even that know the whole story prior to launch. As an employee of, say, asus, why would you risk getting your company blacklisted for 15 min of internet fame?

Besides, it's easy to make educated guesses based solely upon posting style, right? the 30-40% claim was probably made by a 13 year old boy, probably american, who has wealthy parents who don't watch him very well. when apoppin or kyle drop in here and says "you're not going to believe how GREAT this card is" or "nda lifts on dec XX, my writeup is awesome" then I'll pay attention. Until then it's all speculation.
 
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I predict these cards will play every game out there at high resolutions and settings just like the current 5870 and 480/580 cards do.

You will probably need to run ridiculous high resolutions and settings to perceive any real differences in your games (Most current games at least).

My early performance numbers are telling me the 6950/6970 cards will be as fast as fast can get. :thumbsup:
 
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