cytg111
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Maybe not right off the bat but if windows10 is what it takes to enable the holo-lens and it fufills its *omg* potential, then i can see windows10 take off in a big way.
Maybe not right off the bat but if windows10 is what it takes to enable the holo-lens and it fufills its *omg* potential, then i can see windows10 take off in a big way.
And it really shows. Despite fancy Maxwell they are basically stuck with a 2014 architecture which is not competitive with the Radeon R300 lineup in terms of perf/dollar.
Fury X is inferior to Geforce GTX980 Ti and priced the same (actually more because 980 Ti is cheaper now). Try harder.
It's official... Nintendo signed for AMD. We have a dark generation incomming.
RIP Nintendo.
And MS needs to be wise and leave the dying console market. PC gaming with keyboard and mouse is the future.
RIP Nintendo.
And MS needs to be wise and leave the dying console market. PC gaming with keyboard and mouse is the future.
Nah, only AMD needs to die to make the industry continue.
And needs to die fast to avoid more problems.
Also... Nintendo needs to fail in order to realize that people needs graphics instead of good gameplay.
And needs to die fast to avoid more problems.
Also... Nintendo needs to fail in order to realize that people needs graphics instead of good gameplay.
Yes and Apple will die too. They haven't really invented anything revolutionary for several years.
And Intel and Qualcomm will die along with Apple, as will Samsung, Walmart, BMW, and the rest of the companies in the world.
Just not sure if it'll happen tomorrow or 10B years from now.
And Intel and Qualcomm will die along with Apple, as will Samsung, Walmart, BMW, and the rest of the companies in the world.
Just not sure if it'll happen tomorrow or 10B years from now.
Actually Apple is preparing their way to move to ARM. AMD has nothing to do. Zen might be good, but enters too late. Artic and Pascal might have future but in this moments they are late too. The times for a big change is happening and some companies are entering too late to the party.
Blitzvogel
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Nintendo needs to realize that both are necessary to stay relevant in a changing market. Their software doesn't release fast enough to maintain their console ecosystem, and their console itself is not developer friendly because it's
1) Underpowered compared to even it's own counterparts when it was released, so developers despise the idea of having to spend so much money pairing down their titles to run on it.
2) Doesn't utilized now standard x86 console architecture. I bet AMD tried to convince them to go with an APU since they knew what was coming down the pipe from Sony and MS.
3) Nintendo has failed to create an online service of any weight to compete with PSN or Xbox Live.
4) The tablet idea is sort of stupid when considering the added cost and lack of real utilization, with the exception of game streaming. But, TVs are cheap.
5) Hardware backwards compatibility in hindsight only added a poop-ton of cost and foolishness in dealing with a tired and old CPU architecture that can't simply be made competitive by tripling the core count and a bump in clock speed. Wii GPU had to be integrated into the GPU die.
Software emulation would've made more sense in that there already is a solution for that: Dolphin Emulator. Dubious legality aside, there is merit in Nintendo hiring the Dolphin developers to port the dedicated emulator for GC and Wii games. Even modest x86 PC hardware can emulate those systems with relative ease and minimum bugs, especially on a single platform, so it would've been another benefit of going x86. Gamers would've appreciated the increase in game resolutions and framerates without the BoM cost of having hardware backwards compatibility while having the possibility of a better architecture in x86 + GCN.
Blitzvogel
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That is possible, but the issue is developing an ARM core with the same kind of per-core performance and efficiency in both CPU and graphics compared to what Intel already has available. It would also throw the Mac OS X software ecosystem out the door, making it possibly prohibitively expensive to develop for the MacPro and perhaps iMac platform since there is currently nothing in the ARM camp to even come close to the best chips available for those computers. The POWER to x86 transition took years and Apple managed to keep it a well-guarded secret but I don't think Apple users are ready for another transition when so much of their stuff already works quite well on their iMacs, Macbooks and MacPros.
The two-OS ecosystem works well because you're talking two vastly different platforms with different needs and requirements as a result of the user base. Apple effectively had to move to x86 because of the continual delays and falling performance figures of IBM POWER CPUs compared to Intel's products. They could also leverage all the Windows and Linux developers by going with the common architecture. Right now they have great x86 processors for their big machines, and great in-house ARM SoCs for their light mobile products.
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Arachnotronic
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Yeah, perf/dollar really isn't the metric anybody wants to be "winning" in this case.
That matters, and AMD is in better position for this quarter anyway, their GPU line is competently segmented with the competition being squeezed in uncompetitive position.
In the computing department they just released Carrizo for the biggest segment of the W8 market, that is mobile PCs, Intel competitivness is pushed above 25W, and eventualy in the sub 10W segment but with negative profitability not counting brand image damaged, i mean all those free Baytrails will create a perception that Intel = slow.
And Apple can be working in secret their transition too. Just look their products... Only the top tier uses Intel. Middle and Mobile are ARM
Did you even read what i pointed..?.
Do you think that they lose money on Fury or Carrizo, seriously..??.
Actually they are winning on Fury. Is the newcomer. GDDR5 is history. HBM is the future. That's why they sold the whole Fury X stock.
However Carrizo... If they at least make a way to enter into a NUC like machine... The FX could fight against an I5 Haswell and the A8 against the Pentium.
As said, but not forcibly understood by some members, their GPU line is more than competitive not only due to Fury, wich cover only a marginal part of the market, but more importantly to their Grenada refreshes that performs beyond expectations, the competition has nothing left to boost its sales than its usual die hard customers.
As for Carrizo its markets other than mobile are AIOs wich are also a perfect match for this APU, as well as said mini PCs wich could eventualy be available later this year...
http://www.computerbase.de/2015-06/...nt-zbox-mit-kaveri-nachfolger-fuer-ende-2015/
Also it seems that their DTs APU/CPUs resisted, including the FX, and this is no surprise given that items are currently quite expensive in Europe, among others markets impacted by recent currency value variations...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/PC-market-sees-21-6-percent-decline-in-EMEA.146716.0.html
Edit : A pentium is no match for an A8, neither in CPU nor in GPU, check the reviews.
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Essence_of_War
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Yuuuup...and the parade of people who are 100% sure they know what Apple is doing continues.
They're not doing a terribly good job of working on it in secret if random people on internet forums have already figured out their plan.
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