AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

[3DVagabond]

Since this is the Radeon RX480 thread, were any RX480s given out, loaned etc to reviewers who flew over to Taipei? Is this info under NDA?

I don't want to start a flame war but Nvidia had a stack of GTX 1080s to hand out to reviewers at release and I understand that AMD is probably in a tighter financial bind but I did not see any mention of handing out RX 480s. I wonder if they will be sent to the persons that attended later in June after the GTX 1070 is released?

A handful of cards, even a few dozen, is pennies compared to any other marketing expense. Especially $200 ones.

 

[Silverforce11]

I'm still waiting for benchmarks on P10 before jumping to any conclusions. I keep seeing people selling rx 480 way short of the 1070, but I don't think the difference will be as huge as people are making it sound.

Consider it this way. A 1070 is ~980Ti performance level (for now).

You can see benchmark summaries from various sites which tests many games, it's clear the 980Ti is only ~20% above a 390X @ 1440p.

If the RX 480 is just 390X performance, it's not that far behind, for $199 or less than half the price. It's still an amazing deal.

Now, what if the RX 480 is 390X + 10%. Suddenly it's nipping at the heels of the 980Ti and 1070.

Since the 1070 only gains ~10% performance from overclocking, the real interesting thing here is how well Polaris can OC. If it's like early Tahiti, 30-50% OC (7850, 7950!!), now there's potential for a cheap GPU which can OC to epic performance levels.

If it ever happens, I am sure many folks here will declare that "overclocking is silicon lottery and not dependable, it shouldn't be a major factor"...

 

[3DVagabond]

I assume that all the miners will shoot for the cheap 4GB version whereas the gamers will go for 8 GB versions.

This could be entirely possible as per a conversation I had with an AMD employee. He didn't give me any scoop or anything, just that they wouldn't get caught not ready if the mining boom struck again.

They could even go as far as to cripple the 8 gig version if need be to make it less attractive to miners than the 4. That's just speculation on my part though.

 

[Layer8]

Since this is the Radeon RX480 thread, were any RX480s given out, loaned etc to reviewers who flew over to Taipei? Is this info under NDA?

At least Linus got one in Macau.
When Silverforce11 mentioned rumours are correct, we don't have to wait that long anymore.

 

[Sweepr]

Most leaks (which turned out to be correct about 2304 shaders) said that Polaris 10 has 40 CUs on the silicon...

Please point out a single rumour that predicted 36 CUs (2304 SPs) before the SiSoftware (67DF:C4) leak.

 

[Madpacket]

I assume that all the miners will shoot for the cheap 4GB version whereas the gamers will go for 8 GB versions.

Correct

 

[Sweepr]

Radeon RX 480 6.5% faster than Geforce GTX 970 in AMD's AotS, but quite a bit slower than Hawaii. Bandwidth limited?

 

[Armsdealer]

Radeon RX 480 6.5% faster than Geforce GTX 970 in AMD's AotS, but quite a bit slower than Hawaii. Bandwidth

You mean faster than 980

 

[ShintaiDK]

Radeon RX 480 6.5% faster than Geforce GTX 970 in AMD's AotS, but quite a bit slower than Hawaii. Bandwidth limited?

Looks so. Async seems to be very dependent on fast memory. Tonga performs badly for the same reason.

 

[Abwx]

Radeon RX 480 6.5% faster than Geforce GTX 970 in AMD's AotS, but quite a bit slower than Hawaii. Bandwidth limited?

24% faster than the 970 and 6.9% faster than the 980, so i wonder from where you pulled your number....

 

[antihelten]

24% faster than the 970 and 6.9% faster than the 980, so i wonder from where you pulled your number....

And perhaps most importantly it's 100% faster than the 960, so that's a doubling of performance for the $200 price point (in comparison 1080/1070 have brought roughly a 60-65% increase in performance plus a $50 increase in MSRP, compared to 980/970)

 

[Sweepr]

And perhaps most importantly it's 100% faster than the 960, so that's a doubling of performance for the $200 price point (in comparison 1080/1070 have brought roughly a 60-65% increase in performance plus a $50 increase in MSRP, compared to 980/970)

Doubling would mean Fury X 1080P performance. Probably not happening outside of AMD sponsored titles.

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

GP106 can ruin AMD's momentum if it matches GM204. I doubt NVIDIA will price it that low, but then again maybe they don't need to (stronger brand).

 

[Abwx]

And perhaps most importantly it's 100% faster than the 960, so that's a doubling of performance for the $200 price point (in comparison 1080/1070 have brought roughly a 60-65% increase in performance plus a $50 increase in MSRP, compared to 980/970)

What will be interesting is the overclockability of the card, 14nm LPP should do well in this register, and it s likely that AMD limited hugely its frequency due to perf/Watt being dependent of this parameter.

 

[dark zero]

Radeon RX 480 6.5% faster than Geforce GTX 970 in AMD's AotS, but quite a bit slower than Hawaii. Bandwidth limited?

Actually the RX 480 is as fast as a 980... remember that drivers aren't polished for unreleased products

 

[Head1985]

24% faster than the 970 and 6.9% faster than the 980, so i wonder from where you pulled your number....

It will be interesting see some Dx11 benchmarks.If its 7% faster than GTX980 even under dx11 it will be really really nice card for 199USD.

 

[Rvenger]

Leave the marketshare discussion out of here. Its all cleaned up now and please stay on topic.

-Rvenger

 

[Elixer]

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https://www.facebook.com/AMDGaming/...01437/1063788843693602/?type=3&_fb_noscript=1

 

[swilli89]

Leave the marketshare discussion out of here. Its all cleaned up now and please stay on topic.

-Rvenger

That's what I'm talking about! *applause*

 

[boozzer]

When they do hit retail, it better be a hard launch with major volume, because I know some mining enthusiasts who are getting ready for massive mining setups. For mining perf/w is the major factor in profitability.

It could be a major cluster-you-know-what if volume is low.

ie. if retailers jack up the prices due to miners, AMD can kiss goodbye the entire point of Polaris, perf per dollar.

exactly. AMD better have plenty of stock. or they can kiss this gen good bye too. amd can make bank if they have enough product to sell.

 

[sze5003]

I'm probably not going to be able to get one when it goes live but honestly I'd rather wait to have a reference cooler model.

 

[gamervivek]

Doubling would mean Fury X 1080P performance. Probably not happening outside of AMD sponsored titles.

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

GP106 can ruin AMD's momentum if it matches GM204. I doubt NVIDIA will price it that low, but then again maybe they don't need to (stronger brand).

One of the reasons for AMD doing worse at lower resolutions is the front end bottleneck, even if P10 doesn't improve on it from previous GCN it should still do better than previous AMD cards because it's clocked higher.(assuming it's similar numbers as Fiji)

 

[RussianSensation]

I'm probably not going to be able to get one when it goes live but honestly I'd rather wait to have a reference cooler model.

I suggest the opposite - if you can wait, skip the reference blower and get AIB.

I will say that if you held onto your 7970Ghz for 4 years, a GTX1070 is probably a more worthwhile upgrade. 1070 is more than 2x faster than your card (280X).

 

[nenforcer]

exactly. AMD better have plenty of stock. or they can kiss this gen good bye too. amd can make bank if they have enough product to sell.

Knowing that this is a $200 sweet spot graphics card I suspect it will have plenty of supply initially and I don't think a gamer will have any trouble to purchase one. With the 256 bit memory bus I don't think miners will gobble up every single card like they did with the Hawaii R9 290's. Besides the power efficiency improvements over Hawaii (~130W) at full load the performance will be nearly identical or perhaps lower depending upon FP64 rate so not really an incentive to upgrade for mining purposes.

 

[thedavexp]

Spotted another profile on Ashes of the singularity doing Benchmarks on the RX480

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/5ec67292-7886-4ed9-832b-d49c93a4572e

 

[Silverforce11]

Spotted another profile on Ashes of the singularity doing Benchmarks on the RX480

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.co...-details/5ec67292-7886-4ed9-832b-d49c93a4572e

That can't be right..

4K..

With 4x MSAA.

38 FPS!! I don't believe.