AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

[Piroko]

5.5 TFlops would be around 80% of a 1070, 300$ would be a little bit less than 80% of 380$. I wouldn't be outraged at that prospect, but I wouldn't buy it either.

 

[Triskain]

Do the needful, Raja! Also,

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[KaRLiToS]

I don't even know what to think positive from AMD anymore.

 

[trane]

5.5 TFlops would be around 80% of a 1070, 300$ would be a little bit less than 80% of 380$. I wouldn't be outraged at that prospect, but I wouldn't buy it either.

Unless this is cut Polaris 10. In which case a RX 480X would be pretty close to a 1070. If that comes for $300, we are talking. And RX 480 could slot into ~$230.

 

[Azix]

NDa doesn't mean no launch. NDA didn't mean no launch for nvidias 1080. Unless that presentation wasn't considered a launch.

NDA just means the sites cant say what AMD hasn't said. So it would be left to AMD to actually do the revealing of information rather than having sites taint their message with opinion. They could be launched today, or e3 with reviews out 29th, similar to the 1080 launch 11 days before nda was up for reviews.

Can't really tell when AMD plans to "launch" the cards. Launch in quotes because, following nvidia's example, there doesn't have to be stock to sell. When we can expect proper details is the question.

The 480 would be decent if AMD is more able to reach their theoretical peak. 5.5tflops should be faster than a 980. But AMD has needed dx12 to make use of their power so far. A 480x should be 1070 level or close in dx12 at least. Probably faster with async compute. If they planend gddr5x for the 480x and nvidia is holding them up there (with micron), then 480x might come later.

Ideally there would be three SKUs above the 480 (480x, 490, 490x), but thats just wishful thinking.

 

[crisium]

If that is true, that better be from the cut P10.

I think a cut P10 @ $200-$220 would be a winner there. 970-980 peformance, new features, less power, much less money and separated enough from 1070 while standing tall over the 960.

But they still need a faster P10 to at least be within a stones throw away from the 1070. There's no excuse why full P10 cannot be within 15% of the 1070.

If it's a cut P10, they better have full P10 ready right away and not make it Apple exclusive for a year.

If this is full P10 then...

 

[FatherMurphy]

BTW I heard AMD demonstrated RX 480 in CF beating GTX 1080 at Polaris Tech Day.

A comment left by WhyCry in the article about the leaked 480 slide. It is obviously open to interpretation and we are lacking important details (e.g. in what game or games), but there it is.

 

[railven]

Ideally there would be three SKUs above the 480 (480x, 490, 490x), but thats just wishful thinking.

That's even assuming they keep the same name scheme. Not saying they won't, but chances are RX 480 == R9 480X.

New name could be:
R 480
RX 480
R 490
RX 490.

But that's me taking a stab in the dark.

EDIT: I say this because RX 480X or RX 490X sounds pretty stupid to me.

EDIT #2:
Make it easier to put multi GPU names in there too
RX2 480 instead of R9 480X2 using their old scheme.

EDIT #3:
Anyone remember their prescription troll?
RX stands for prescription in the medicine world haha.

 

[trane]

That's even assuming they keep the same name scheme. Not saying they won't, but chances are RX 480 == R9 480X.

New name could be:
R 480
RX 480
R 490
RX 490.

But that's me taking a stab in the dark.

EDIT: I say this because RX 480X or RX 490X sounds pretty stupid to me.

EDIT #2:
Make it easier to put multi GPU names in there too
RX2 480 instead of R9 480X2 using their old scheme.

Or, RX 485.

I thought about R 480 too, but it makes no sense. RX is surely the family name. So, it's either 480X or 485.

If you think RX 480X sounds stupid, how about X1950 XTX?

 

[crisium]

A comment left by WhyCry in the article about the leaked 480 slide. It is obviously open to interpretation and we are lacking important details (e.g. in what game or games), but there it is.

Well it had better. Cutdown 7850 Crossfire beat a single 680, nevermind the full chip 7870 Crossfire.

 

[railven]

Or, RX 485.

I thought about R 480 too, but it makes no sense. RX is surely the family name. So, it's either 480X or 485.

If you think RX 480X sounds stupid, how about X1950 XTX?

Welps guess we'll have to wait for the rest of the cards to fall.

To many X's going on haha. I was only kidding when I said bring back the 9800 XT PTE's names. haha.

 

[crisium]

X850XTPE
X1950XTX
Rage Fury MAXX

Never forget.

 

[railven]

X850XTPE
X1950XTX
Rage Fury MAXX

Never forget.

Was Raja in charge back then too? Because if he was, it all makes sense now.

 

[Bacon1]

Guys X often refers to 10... Since we had R9, R10 makes sense, so RX.

 

[railven]

Guys X often refers to 10... Since we had R9, R10 makes sense, so RX.

Makes no sense to me to change it with the 400 series and not the 300 series.

So what will their entry cards be?
R8 470?

 

[Bacon1]

Makes no sense to me to change it with the 400 series and not the 300 series.

So what will their entry cards be?
R8 470?

RX could be "Graphics cards for VR" or whatever they want to market it as.

R9 went back to the 270x.

Either way, why talk about the naming for a whole page lol

 

[Tumaras]

At 5.5 tflops, this is *slower* than the ancient Hawaii-based 290x which was 5.6. It's also not like Nvidia will ignore the low-end gamer segment this would be aiming for, they'll have 1060 or something along those lines for that. I really don't see the appeal for anything but miners looking to save on a power bill, or that want to buy new rather than 290/290x/390/390x's off Ebay. Gamers will want a card that will hold up for at least a little while with new games, and 5.5 tflops won't even run current games like The Division on Ultra in 1080p. This is honestly like something I'd consider for a kid's PC if I didn't go IGP.

 

[boozzer]

Kyle is never wrong.

hahahaha. polaris are mid range chips but if it is price under 300$ it will still sell. well time for me to hunted down some used AIB 980 tis wish me luck.

 

[exar333]

AMD seems to be competing with themselves on how many SKUs they can fit within 25% of the Fury. At what point will they give up on the whole product stack and just stick with Polaris?

If 5.5Tflops is true, then AMD should retire the 390/390x/Fury/Fury X and the Nano. KISS.

 

[railven]

RX could be "Graphics cards for VR" or whatever they want to market it as.

R9 went back to the 270x.

I'm confused, because they had as low as R3 at one point .
R3 - APU
R5 - entry
R7 - budget/mainstream
R9 - mainstream/enthusiast

Would make no sense to increment them all. If I had to guess X = variable, and it's there way of just dropping R3-R9 and just using RX instead.

Either way, why talk about the naming for a whole page lol

Because there isn't much else to talk about right now

 

[crisium]

At 5.5 tflops, this is *slower* than the ancient Hawaii-based 290x which was 5.6.

Ideally AMD made IPC gains. Their performance per FLOPs (IPC we'll call it) has been behind Nvidia.

But the pessimist in me thinks AMD gained squat, or a few % at most. After all, the 290X performs inbetween the 970 and 980 most of the time anyway, and that's what they are comparing it to.

My greatest disappointment of Polaris would be 1) no significant IPC gains combined with 2) a very large (greater than 15%) deficit to the 1070 on the full P10. The leaks so far point to this this. I really hope to be surprised, but now I'm bracing myself for the worst.

 

[ComputerGuy2006]

The solution to this is obvious... call it the 10-480.

There you go AMD. I just solved your naming issues for another 79 generations of models (up to the 99-480 in a few centries). Not only that, but future generations of people will easily be able to understand the model number naming scheme of current and past cards.

 

[railven]

The solution to this is obvious... call it the 10-480.

There you go AMD. I just solved your naming issues for another 79 generations of models (up to the 99-480 in a few centries). Not only that, but future generations of people will easily be able to understand the model number naming scheme of current and past cards.

HAHA.

Where would be if AMD didn't reset the numbers?
X1 == 11,000
then we went through another 10 or so in HD, up to HD 8000 if I recall (OEM only), now we're 4 into R#-X00 series...

So Radeon XXV-xx0 would be more appropriate!

 

[SteveGrabowski]

5.5tflops should be faster than a 980. But AMD has needed dx12 to make use of their power so far.

The 390x can do 5.9 TFLOPS and it's not faster than a 980.

 

[swilli89]

The 390x can do 5.9 TFLOPS and it's not faster than a 980.

390x is equal a 980. Include DX12 games current and future and its definitely faster.