AMD Phenom or Intel i7... for intensive video editing

[mrcool63]

I generally use adobe premiere pro, after effects, photoshop and flash(all cs4). i also use programs like autodesk combustion. i also use sony sound forge for conversion of tracks..
i use other programs like procoder etc for video conversion
At a time im used to operating photoshop, after effects nd premiere pro simultaneously

i have a core 2 quad q6600, asus p5w dh deluxe, 4gb ram, geforce 9600gt.

I wanted to upgrade to the new phenom x4 or x6 or intel i7.
my range is $350 or max $400.
Can u recommend a suitable motherboard also.(around $350)

 

[Sylvanas]

Wait for AT's review of the X6 due any day now before you decide to buy. We need to see AMD's X6 vs the i7's in depth before we can best answer your question.

 

[richierich1212]

What's your total budget? $750 for CPU, mobo, RAM?

 

[mrcool63]

total budget for cpu and mobo nd ram is around $700. i was planning a 2 gb corsair ddr3 ram 1033mhz for $90 as ram. excluding that i believe for cpu and mobo 620 or 630 bucks.

 

[crazylegs]

IMO spend wayyy less on the MB - unless u plan on trying some pretty 'extreme' OCing - which you shouldn't if your using the machine to work on Opt for pretty much the cheapest MB, from a good manufacturer (Gigabyte, Asus etc) that gives you the funtions youn need.

Spend more on RAM - want at least 4GB (you ahve 4GB now but are thinking of movign to 2GB??)

Spend rest of buget on CPU - or put in your pocket for something else

 

[richierich1212]

Yeah you should get 8GB of RAM for your productivity, me thinks.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Why on earth are you downgrading ram to 2gb??

 

[-Nintendork-]

Given the high frequency right from the start:

Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2Ghz $299
Asus M4A89GTD-PRO $139
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 2x2GB $119
Corsair Hydro H50 $79
$636

You can also add another 2x2GB kit.

It never worth your money spending a lot in motherboard. Paying 2 o 3 times what a good mobo offers doesn't give you 2 or 3 times the performance, just and extra 10% overclock if you're very lucky.

For work it's important a 100% stable system.

 

[Vette73]

Yea if the software can use all 6 cores then look at the AMD Phenom II X6

If not then go i7.

And I agree, don;t over spend on the Motherboard.

 

[AdamK47]

Core i7 980X. Do it!

 

[exar333]

i7 all the way. It destroys any PhII. I would expect the new hexacore PhII to be obviously better, but still slower than a good i7.

 

[Markfw]

i7 all the way. It destroys any PhII. I would expect the new hexacore PhII to be obviously better, but still slower than a good i7.

Check the 1055T benchmarks thread. Its better than a 930.

 

[richierich1212]

Core i7 980X. Do it!

Funny.

 

[richierich1212]

i7 all the way. It destroys any PhII. I would expect the new hexacore PhII to be obviously better, but still slower than a good i7.

Laughable.

 

[RussianSensation]

I would think a 4.2-4.3ghz X6 would be faster for video encoding/editing than a 4.0ghz Core i7. Nintendork has a great setup recommendation there. However, I would go with air cooling instead, like Megahalems or Noctua NH-D14.

 

[mrcool63]

I dont plan to spend that much on the mobo, but a good i7 mobo costs that much only so i put in the brackets.. In my opinion there are too many issues with the foxconn pins and the chipset now currently under use so i am currently rating intel i7 below AMD
Who Can beat a 6 core AMD for $200????
Yeah i will get 4gb ram only..
overclocking is not an option as the computer runs for about 14 hours a day.. on full steam!!
should i continue the 9600gt or switch to ati radeon?

can u review this mobo
MSI 790GX-G65. How does it compare to the one nintendork suggested

 

[busydude]

can u review this mobo MSI 790GX-G65. How does it compare to the one nintendork suggested

A good last-gen board, similarly priced to 890GX. Not worth it when compared.
There is an alternative from gigabyte, similar to Asus one nintendork suggested but has USB 3 support for same price.

 

[T2k]

Can u recommend a suitable motherboard also.(around $350)

You don't need to spend more than half of that - but make sure you get USB 3.0, there are a whole lot of new USB3 video editing solutions hitting the market this year, like this sub-$1k BMD UltraStudio Pro with killer specs: http://blackmagic-design.com/products/ultrastudiopro/
They are also releasing an external version of my Intensity Pro: http://blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

 

[Vette73]

I dont plan to spend that much on the mobo, but a good i7 mobo costs that much only so i put in the brackets.. In my opinion there are too many issues with the foxconn pins and the chipset now currently under use so i am currently rating intel i7 below AMD
Who Can beat a 6 core AMD for $200????
Yeah i will get 4gb ram only..
overclocking is not an option as the computer runs for about 14 hours a day.. on full steam!!
should i continue the 9600gt or switch to ati radeon?

can u review this mobo
MSI 790GX-G65. How does it compare to the one nintendork suggested

Here is a good board...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128438

Has USB3.0, Firewire, eSata, etc... and supports the X6 CPU.

 

[AzN]

Check the 1055T benchmarks thread. Its better than a 930.

I wouldn't call it better. Few synthetics here and there. A mixed bag.

 

[T2k]

Check the 1055T benchmarks thread. Its better than a 930.

Yeah, someone sounds nervous after all that money spent on his X58 config...

 

[mrcool63]

i just saw on at benchmark testing for cpu's that an intel i7 870 beats even the phenom II x4 965 comprehensively???
Are AMD that bad?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=107

I just reviewed the gigabyte board. really good. will i need the geforce 9600gt then??

 

[dzoner]

overclocking is not an option as the computer runs for about 14 hours a day.. on full steam!!
should i continue the 9600gt or switch to ati radeon?

I don't get that, if richierich could o/c all six cores to over 4gz, I would think you should be able to hit 3.2gz or so with a Hydro or high end air cooler with zero effect on the lifespan of the cpu.

Am I missing something here?

 

[alyarb]

almost any i7 can do 3.8 ghz or more 24/7, but some people don't want to invest the extra care to ensure everything is running properly especially on a machine that needs to "just work."

 

[RussianSensation]

i just saw on at benchmark testing for cpu's that an intel i7 870 beats even the phenom II x4 965 comprehensively???
Are AMD that bad?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=107

Firstly, it's unfair to compare an i7 870 to 965 since one processor is $500 and the other is $200. Secondly, yes Intel has the better architecture per clock as an i5 750 for $200 is faster than the 965, nevermind an i7: http://www.techspot.com/review/266-value-cpu-roundup/page7.html If you look for clock-per-clock performance, then Phenom II is a good 20-25% slower (but it depends if the application runs better on a particular architecture). Thirdly, 965 is more or less irrelevant now at its current price since for $200 you will be able to purchase a six core + turbo mode Thuban.

However, unless the benchmark is multi-threaded (i.e., 8+ threads in video encoding), then the Core i7 will still be faster, esp. in games where minimum framerate is the key differentiator between processors: http://www.legionhardware.com/artic...ossfire_cpu_scaling_performance_part_2,5.html This is why there is hardly any benefit to a Core i7 980X over a conventional Core i7. For this reason, Thuban will be a lot better for those who use all the cores, but otherwise it won't be faster.

As long as you aren't gaming, then the X6 should be competitive in multi-threaded processing intensive tasks.