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Zebo
Elite Member
Just cuz you're too lazy to do the research in building a quiet PC. Heck anyone with minor research can build a quieter A64 since they use 1/3 the power and don;t need screamers to cool them like p4... Dell has people devoted to it...but even so not nearly good enough. My cousin has an XPS and you can hear in the hall-way it as you walk twards his office. I mean LOUD!!! I definity question your interprtations of quiet... Can you hear it? At all? Mine? you can't hear from 3ft. I mean 3am silent and I live in the sticks. BTW- I have serious doubts that your P4 is faster in any game than an A64, maninly because every review site and every benchmark says otherwise. A64 onws gaming.. even a measley 3000 trumps EE's in some benches..Maybe you where clueless how to set up comp too???? Ran it underclocked?
Edit here are some good resources for next time to trump that dell (course nothing can touch water in so far as silence)
http://www.buildsilentpc.com/
http://www.silentpcreview.com/index.php
http://www.quietpcusa.com/articles/how_to_silence_a_computer.html
http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/buildaquietpc.html
http://www.directron.com/quietpc.html
Oh and if you want to compare any benchmarks just LMK.. Half price my box will put the whoopin on any Dell XPS.
"You are a very bad system builder, if you built a more expensive A64 system that performs slower than a P4 3.6. You suck! man. Even my OCed 3200+ winchester will whip your 3.6E CPU at the half of the price"
First of all, I DIDN"T BUILD THE SYSTEM!!! All I said was it was a custom built system. It was built by a major 2nd tier reputable company, that I won't name at this time. The cost with the fancy Lian Li case and everything else similar to the Dell cost about the same or a little more. I bought my Dell when they were having 25% off.
Second, I'm mainly comparing the performance at the stock CPU/GPU speeds. I tried OCing to get acceptable video encoding performance, but had stability problems even going to only 2400-2500mhz. Even at 2500mhz it couldn't come close to the Dell in MPEG2 encoding or DVDShrink (the 2 things I do most) And at stock speed my Dell outperforms it in EVERYTHING. My Athlon was a 3500+, ASUS SLI board, eVGA 6800GT, dual Maxtor 300GB Diamond Max drives, Samsung DVD burner, Lian Li V1000, Enermax EP465 PSU.
"Oh and if you want to compare any benchmarks just LMK.. Half price my box will put the whoopin on any Dell XPS."
I seriously doubt that your system cost half as much, since you don't know what I paid for mine or all of what it has in it. Again for the same cost as I paid for the Athlon I got a FASTER, MORE STABLE, QUIETER computer. You can throw benchmark numbers at me all day, but I know what both systems did running the same software under the same conditions. For me the Dell is the better deal.
First of all, I DIDN"T BUILD THE SYSTEM!!! All I said was it was a custom built system. It was built by a major 2nd tier reputable company, that I won't name at this time. The cost with the fancy Lian Li case and everything else similar to the Dell cost about the same or a little more. I bought my Dell when they were having 25% off.
Second, I'm mainly comparing the performance at the stock CPU/GPU speeds. I tried OCing to get acceptable video encoding performance, but had stability problems even going to only 2400-2500mhz. Even at 2500mhz it couldn't come close to the Dell in MPEG2 encoding or DVDShrink (the 2 things I do most) And at stock speed my Dell outperforms it in EVERYTHING. My Athlon was a 3500+, ASUS SLI board, eVGA 6800GT, dual Maxtor 300GB Diamond Max drives, Samsung DVD burner, Lian Li V1000, Enermax EP465 PSU.
"Oh and if you want to compare any benchmarks just LMK.. Half price my box will put the whoopin on any Dell XPS."
I seriously doubt that your system cost half as much, since you don't know what I paid for mine or all of what it has in it. Again for the same cost as I paid for the Athlon I got a FASTER, MORE STABLE, QUIETER computer. You can throw benchmark numbers at me all day, but I know what both systems did running the same software under the same conditions. For me the Dell is the better deal.
q]Originally posted by: kini62
"You are a very bad system builder, if you built a more expensive A64 system that performs slower than a P4 3.6. You suck! man. Even my OCed 3200+ winchester will whip your 3.6E CPU at the half of the price"
First of all, I DIDN"T BUILD THE SYSTEM!!! All I said was it was a custom built system. It was built by a major 2nd tier reputable company, that I won't name at this time. The cost with the fancy Lian Li case and everything else similar to the Dell cost about the same or a little more. I bought my Dell when they were having 25% off.
Second, I'm mainly comparing the performance at the stock CPU/GPU speeds. I tried OCing to get acceptable video encoding performance, but had stability problems even going to only 2400-2500mhz. Even at 2500mhz it couldn't come close to the Dell in MPEG2 encoding or DVDShrink (the 2 things I do most) And at stock speed my Dell outperforms it in EVERYTHING. My Athlon was a 3500+, ASUS SLI board, eVGA 6800GT, dual Maxtor 300GB Diamond Max drives, Samsung DVD burner, Lian Li V1000, Enermax EP465 PSU.
"Oh and if you want to compare any benchmarks just LMK.. Half price my box will put the whoopin on any Dell XPS."
I seriously doubt that your system cost half as much, since you don't know what I paid for mine or all of what it has in it. Again for the same cost as I paid for the Athlon I got a FASTER, MORE STABLE, QUIETER computer. You can throw benchmark numbers at me all day, but I know what both systems did running the same software under the same conditions. For me the Dell is the better deal.[/quote]
I can assure that my computer costs the half or yours and is faster quieter and more stable. You would have to overclok your computer at 5.2GHz with Liquid nitrogen and lots of fans to completely beat mine at 2.65GHz (didn't you see the article?) . Besides you can say watever you want the benchmarks are the reality not your impressions. And the reality is that the athlo 64 whips the Presscot and runs cooler.
My computer
CPU Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester : 180
Mboard MSI KN8 NEO2 Platinium: 140
Video Card: 350
2 74GB Raptors Hard disks and 1 250 Caviar: 450
1GB RAM OCZ PC3700: 180
Audigy 2 ZS : 60
DVD-RW: NEC 3520A: 60
Antec True480 480W PSU: 90
Total: US$1510
My computer: US$1510
Your computer with no monitor: US$3537 (from dell website w/o special warranty or extra accesoriesor software they have bo discounts at the moment), EXPENSIVE!!!!!!!!!
Ohh!! that is less than the half.
Ok, you had a 25% discount, this is US$2653 still expensive (75.7% more) enough for me to get an athlon 64 FX55 or a 4000+ and some other components and kick your computer ass even more. (Anyway my computer is running at FX55 levels so I have no need)
And I won't disscus anymore with someone that isn't able to build his own computer. OH!! c'mon you cannot even quote.
"You are a very bad system builder, if you built a more expensive A64 system that performs slower than a P4 3.6. You suck! man. Even my OCed 3200+ winchester will whip your 3.6E CPU at the half of the price"
First of all, I DIDN"T BUILD THE SYSTEM!!! All I said was it was a custom built system. It was built by a major 2nd tier reputable company, that I won't name at this time. The cost with the fancy Lian Li case and everything else similar to the Dell cost about the same or a little more. I bought my Dell when they were having 25% off.
Second, I'm mainly comparing the performance at the stock CPU/GPU speeds. I tried OCing to get acceptable video encoding performance, but had stability problems even going to only 2400-2500mhz. Even at 2500mhz it couldn't come close to the Dell in MPEG2 encoding or DVDShrink (the 2 things I do most) And at stock speed my Dell outperforms it in EVERYTHING. My Athlon was a 3500+, ASUS SLI board, eVGA 6800GT, dual Maxtor 300GB Diamond Max drives, Samsung DVD burner, Lian Li V1000, Enermax EP465 PSU.
"Oh and if you want to compare any benchmarks just LMK.. Half price my box will put the whoopin on any Dell XPS."
I seriously doubt that your system cost half as much, since you don't know what I paid for mine or all of what it has in it. Again for the same cost as I paid for the Athlon I got a FASTER, MORE STABLE, QUIETER computer. You can throw benchmark numbers at me all day, but I know what both systems did running the same software under the same conditions. For me the Dell is the better deal.[/quote]
I can assure that my computer costs the half or yours and is faster quieter and more stable. You would have to overclok your computer at 5.2GHz with Liquid nitrogen and lots of fans to completely beat mine at 2.65GHz (didn't you see the article?) . Besides you can say watever you want the benchmarks are the reality not your impressions. And the reality is that the athlo 64 whips the Presscot and runs cooler.
My computer
CPU Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester : 180
Mboard MSI KN8 NEO2 Platinium: 140
Video Card: 350
2 74GB Raptors Hard disks and 1 250 Caviar: 450
1GB RAM OCZ PC3700: 180
Audigy 2 ZS : 60
DVD-RW: NEC 3520A: 60
Antec True480 480W PSU: 90
Total: US$1510
My computer: US$1510
Your computer with no monitor: US$3537 (from dell website w/o special warranty or extra accesoriesor software they have bo discounts at the moment), EXPENSIVE!!!!!!!!!
Ohh!! that is less than the half.
Ok, you had a 25% discount, this is US$2653 still expensive (75.7% more) enough for me to get an athlon 64 FX55 or a 4000+ and some other components and kick your computer ass even more. (Anyway my computer is running at FX55 levels so I have no need)
And I won't disscus anymore with someone that isn't able to build his own computer. OH!! c'mon you cannot even quote.
Zebo
Elite Member
Well I've never had a BSOD after dialed in, period. I think we got a case of user error.
My Cost?
CPU $145
MOBO $90
Vcard $399
Ehiem 1048 pump $55
Heater core $26
Tubing $7
2 water blocks $50
Case $210
PSU $112
3 x 120mm Globe fans $22
Monitor $599 (from dell BTW)
Keyboard and mouse both kensington optical $55
Speakers Altec lansing 601 $140
Crucail Ballistix $209
2 x 160MB Seagate HD's $180
NEC 3500 $65
DVD player Lite-on $25
Floppy $8
= 2397
Dell similarly configured by no water, slower, louder costs $3,817
My Cost?
CPU $145
MOBO $90
Vcard $399
Ehiem 1048 pump $55
Heater core $26
Tubing $7
2 water blocks $50
Case $210
PSU $112
3 x 120mm Globe fans $22
Monitor $599 (from dell BTW)
Keyboard and mouse both kensington optical $55
Speakers Altec lansing 601 $140
Crucail Ballistix $209
2 x 160MB Seagate HD's $180
NEC 3500 $65
DVD player Lite-on $25
Floppy $8
= 2397
Dell similarly configured by no water, slower, louder costs $3,817
Mobo $0 (beta tester goodness, worth $580)
2 CPUs $0 (sold 1 very 1337 tibia account. worth $3600+)
RAm $1400 (Corsair. The only server memory for real men. Anything else is for mice.)
vid card $2800 (Realizm 800 - the god of Maya)
case $270 (lian li is goodness)
PSU $200 (PCP&C roxxorz)
CRT $650 (NEC pwnz!)
KB $65 (Buckling spring Unicomp 1337ness)
HDDs $4360 (4 seagate 15ks and 12 raptor 75s, nuff said)
SATA HBA $700 (3ware... lacking NCQ, but otherwise kicks ass)
DVDRW + SATA adapter $75 (NEC 3520a, standard fare)
Floppy $8 (NEC again)
4 pumps $280
2 BIX3 $240
2 437w TECs $290
16 HDD water blocks $900
tubing $36
2 CPUs $0 (sold 1 very 1337 tibia account. worth $3600+)
RAm $1400 (Corsair. The only server memory for real men. Anything else is for mice.)
vid card $2800 (Realizm 800 - the god of Maya)
case $270 (lian li is goodness)
PSU $200 (PCP&C roxxorz)
CRT $650 (NEC pwnz!)
KB $65 (Buckling spring Unicomp 1337ness)
HDDs $4360 (4 seagate 15ks and 12 raptor 75s, nuff said)
SATA HBA $700 (3ware... lacking NCQ, but otherwise kicks ass)
DVDRW + SATA adapter $75 (NEC 3520a, standard fare)
Floppy $8 (NEC again)
4 pumps $280
2 BIX3 $240
2 437w TECs $290
16 HDD water blocks $900
tubing $36
for carlosd
"My computer
CPU Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester : 180
Mboard MSI KN8 NEO2 Platinium: 140
Video Card: 350
2 74GB Raptors Hard disks and 1 250 Caviar: 450
1GB RAM OCZ PC3700: 180
Audigy 2 ZS : 60
DVD-RW: NEC 3520A: 60
Antec True480 480W PSU: 90
Total: US$1510"
My computer: US$1510
Your computer with no monitor: US$3537 (from dell website w/o special warranty or extra accesoriesor software they have bo discounts at the moment), EXPENSIVE!!!!!!!!!
Ohh!! that is less than the half.
Ok, you had a 25% discount, this is US$2653 still expensive (75.7% more) enough for me to get an athlon 64 FX55 or a 4000+ and some other components and kick your computer ass even more. (Anyway my computer is running at FX55 levels so I have no need)
So I guess you run your computer with the MB sitting on the table then. I dont see no case. $350 for a video card. What video card. It would have to be a 6800Ultra or X800/850 XT or PE to match up with mine. And because you appear to be as ignorant as you are arrogant my computer with 650GB HDD space cost $2300 shipped. OUCH!! I hope you build computers better than you do math.
Let's see your computer $1510 without a case and less hard drive space and a slower video card and one less optical drive and no warranty cost 50% less, but if you even up the storage and video then your home built is probably about 20-30% less. WOW!!!! What savings. I'm defenitaley impressed with your technical skills as well as your math skills.
And I won't disscus anymore with someone that isn't able to build his own computer. OH!! c'mon you cannot even quote." What's that supposed to mean other than you're a smart ass.
For Zebo, I'm glad you got yours dialed in. Maybe I don't want to have to "dial" it in. Maybe I just want to use it. As for user error I don't think so. I followed all the guides and info on this site. I can't be sure what the problem was. Maybe bios, maybe chipset, maybe bad luck who knows. All I know is it wasn't user error.
As for all the other comments about not being able to build my own. Who said that? Why all the assumptions? No one here knows whether I've built my own in the past. Maybe I could but choose not to. If I can get what I want at what I think is a reasonable price and have someone else build it and warranty it, why not. I never said my Dell is faster than any of yours. I just said it's faster than my 3500+ and any other 3500+ that HASN"T been over clocked. I did timed comparisons using the same software and the same files and again FOR WHAT I WANT TO USE IT FOR, it's faster. I realize the 3500+ with equal video cards may have a slight edge in some games but the cards were/are not equal. And so what if the 3500+ plays 5 or 10 FPS faster when they both are running at least 70 or 80 FPS to begin with.
I also realize that this is an AMD Fanboy site but some of you really need to get off your pedastel and stop running of at the mouth witnout knowing all the facts, carlosd.....
"My computer
CPU Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester : 180
Mboard MSI KN8 NEO2 Platinium: 140
Video Card: 350
2 74GB Raptors Hard disks and 1 250 Caviar: 450
1GB RAM OCZ PC3700: 180
Audigy 2 ZS : 60
DVD-RW: NEC 3520A: 60
Antec True480 480W PSU: 90
Total: US$1510"
My computer: US$1510
Your computer with no monitor: US$3537 (from dell website w/o special warranty or extra accesoriesor software they have bo discounts at the moment), EXPENSIVE!!!!!!!!!
Ohh!! that is less than the half.
Ok, you had a 25% discount, this is US$2653 still expensive (75.7% more) enough for me to get an athlon 64 FX55 or a 4000+ and some other components and kick your computer ass even more. (Anyway my computer is running at FX55 levels so I have no need)
So I guess you run your computer with the MB sitting on the table then. I dont see no case. $350 for a video card. What video card. It would have to be a 6800Ultra or X800/850 XT or PE to match up with mine. And because you appear to be as ignorant as you are arrogant my computer with 650GB HDD space cost $2300 shipped. OUCH!! I hope you build computers better than you do math.
Let's see your computer $1510 without a case and less hard drive space and a slower video card and one less optical drive and no warranty cost 50% less, but if you even up the storage and video then your home built is probably about 20-30% less. WOW!!!! What savings. I'm defenitaley impressed with your technical skills as well as your math skills.
And I won't disscus anymore with someone that isn't able to build his own computer. OH!! c'mon you cannot even quote." What's that supposed to mean other than you're a smart ass.
For Zebo, I'm glad you got yours dialed in. Maybe I don't want to have to "dial" it in. Maybe I just want to use it. As for user error I don't think so. I followed all the guides and info on this site. I can't be sure what the problem was. Maybe bios, maybe chipset, maybe bad luck who knows. All I know is it wasn't user error.
As for all the other comments about not being able to build my own. Who said that? Why all the assumptions? No one here knows whether I've built my own in the past. Maybe I could but choose not to. If I can get what I want at what I think is a reasonable price and have someone else build it and warranty it, why not. I never said my Dell is faster than any of yours. I just said it's faster than my 3500+ and any other 3500+ that HASN"T been over clocked. I did timed comparisons using the same software and the same files and again FOR WHAT I WANT TO USE IT FOR, it's faster. I realize the 3500+ with equal video cards may have a slight edge in some games but the cards were/are not equal. And so what if the 3500+ plays 5 or 10 FPS faster when they both are running at least 70 or 80 FPS to begin with.
I also realize that this is an AMD Fanboy site but some of you really need to get off your pedastel and stop running of at the mouth witnout knowing all the facts, carlosd.....
WIs this the same kind of common intelligence that went with VHS over Beta? Just because a group of people extolls the virtues of something doesn't make it better. If that was the case then everyone would be using a Mac. They're about as zealous as you can get.
And just what are these facts that are used to back all of this up? Some synthetic becnhmarks. I don't know about you but I generally use my computer for things other than running benchmarks. So would I think 99.999999% of the rest of the world.
As for over clocking, that too would be about .001% of all computer users. So I don't really care how fast yours or my computer might be running at this or that. So I'll take my Dell and be happy knowing that it will outperform ANY stock AMD 3500+ and below, in REAL WORLD, as in actually using it in your home, environment.
I once let a company build me a custom computer. Reputable and all. only to find out that they had forgotten to install chipset drivers....making my system perform at half its potential. But seriously, there is no way that there would even be a noticeable difference. It is even less likely that you see an improvement unless you had something wrong with your previous system.
You really don't know anything, that 's the reason why you are not able to build a capable system.
OK, my case costs 90 dollars, that would make my system 90 dollars more expensive (US1600), still a lot cheaper and faster than yours. (without having an lots of innecesary storage space, also I have an additional DVD drive, but I had it already, anyway it is extremely cheap, US$25 retail so it would be 1625). Besides ALL OF MY PARTS ARE RETAIL SO THEY HAVE AT LEAST 3 YEARS OF WARRANTY DIRECTLY FROM THE MANUFACTURER (NO WARRANTY?????) OUCHHHH!!!. If you Know Something about hardware you'll would know that my A 64 overclocked at FX55 levels with 6800GT at ultra levels is still beating your CPU videocard combo, OUCHHHHH!!! (maybe you should read a little more before saying such incoherences, Yes your video card is kind of superior, not in all games, but news for you, the system works as a whole) . Besides I Have dual raptors (if you know what a raptor is) , much faster disks than yours , OUCHHHHH!!!!!!!, I prefer speed than capacity on hard disks, I could have bought two 400GB Hard disks and would have 800GB of storage for the same price of the dual raptors and the 250GB Caviar. OUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .
Your system would costs US$2653 with 25% off(not anymore), at least that you have bought your system in an alternative dell company in another dimension, so you cannot prove that your system costs $2300 (which is still too expensive). OK it would be a saving of 41.5% for a faster, cooler and quieter system. OUCHH!!!!!! . Still a GREAT saving and that supossing that bougth you computer in an aternative dimenssion for US$2300.
Still not able to quote??
And the only fanboy here are you, going against the real facts, I am only on the side of the facts not on side of AMD.
There smart ass. I'll quote just for you.
Apparently your reading comprehension needs a little work. I never said I couldn't, didn't build my own system. I just happened to buy this time. Or maybe everytime, who knows. Certainly not you. You don't know what I am or am not capable of, you don't know me, period!
It'd be easy to prove to you what I paid for my system, I have the invoice, but since you're such an ass, I won't bother.
As for your "Raptors" big fricking deal. They're not that fast and just a waste of money, pure marketing gimmick, pay 3 times as much for 2% performance boost. OUCH!!!
Not everything you buy retail has 3 years waranty OUCH!!!!! AGAIN
If you think your system performs at FX55 levels you are again showing your amazing brain power, oh, yeah it msut be over clocked like your CPU...... On Crack!
As for quiet, any system running an nVidia 6800GT or Ultra will be louder than mine., period. And unless you are running water cooling or have no fan on your CPU then your system will be louder than mine.
And I still am not seeing these "facts" you like to refer to. Just what are they? Benchamrks? As I said I don't use my computer for running benchmarks, but I guess you have certain "deficencies" in your personal llife or physical stature that requires you to prove to the world how great you are at building a computer. WOW you can follow directions and turn a screwdriver, IMPRESSIVE to say the least.
I bet you put a turbo (if you know what a turbo is), on your GEO so you can impress your woman or man or whatever it is you are obiviously trying so hard to impress.
So fanboy, before you accuse someone of lying maybe YOU should get your facts straight.
Steeplerot
Lifer
If you could build a system then why are you pimping a dell on a OC forum?
Anyhow what do you know about compensating and women?
I bet his girl is happy cuz he's got some flow for her -he didn't blow his wad on a DELL....
He's got the chicks and a faster rig...what do you have but a bunch of hot air and a rig that can't "get it up".
Now the obligtory: AMD rulez! /fanboi mode off
Anyhow what do you know about compensating and women?
I bet his girl is happy cuz he's got some flow for her -he didn't blow his wad on a DELL....
He's got the chicks and a faster rig...what do you have but a bunch of hot air and a rig that can't "get it up".
Now the obligtory: AMD rulez! /fanboi mode off
Who asked for any comments from the peanut galary?
I'm not "pimping" a Dell. I'm just saying that I'm happy with it. Happier then I was with my 3500+ system, for about the same money.
As for compensating I don't need to, and as for women- more then you'll ever know 🙂
How do you know he's got the chicks? Maybe he's got the dudes?
And finally to help explain the whole cost thing, back in December 04 I started looking for a new PC, either build or buy. I priced out what I wanted from New Egg. Total price with shipping came to about $2000. I found a custom builder that could build the exact same thing for about $150 more than I could buy the parts for. I figured that my time was worth more than $150, plus if there were any problems the warranty was all in one place. There were some problems, some hardware failures (not the fault of the builder) and my disappointment in the overall peformance of the system, or mainly the Athlon 3500+. For what I wanted to use it for it just was much less than I expected after reading all the "awesome" benchmarks, showing how it whips up on the P4. My experience was that for home users not interested in Super PI scores or 3DMark CPU scores, or having 10 FPS more in Doom, it's not all that. I would rather have the ability to encode my video faster AND still be able to use the system. With the 3500+ the system was essentially non-responsive while encoding video. It's multi-tasking as far as the GUI and opening and running other apps was concerned was/is poor. I thought about just living with it and waiting for the dual core chips, but the deal on the Dell was really good. I got my money back, so I essentailly moved to the Dell for about $150, and so far am far happier with it. It's a much better system than I thought it would be. And much better for my uses at this time.
The End.
To the raptor's %2 performance boost comment. You're off base. Way.
It's not marketing hype. The drive is aimed for low end servers, where it competes with current gen SCSI very well. Is it pricey for a desktop user? Of course. Does that make it a bad drive? Hell no! Is it WD's fault the same people that spend $300 more on a GPU for +10fps buy thier Raptors? Again, no!
BTW for $2000 I could have built you a dual opteron that would anihilate any P4 for encoding video.
It's not marketing hype. The drive is aimed for low end servers, where it competes with current gen SCSI very well. Is it pricey for a desktop user? Of course. Does that make it a bad drive? Hell no! Is it WD's fault the same people that spend $300 more on a GPU for +10fps buy thier Raptors? Again, no!
BTW for $2000 I could have built you a dual opteron that would anihilate any P4 for encoding video.
Zebo
Elite Member
When little Green sits up top the benchmarks what do you expect? It's cheaper too, no intel chip under $400 can touch a $190 3400 NC, Proof. Add the that fact, they run cool thereby allowing quieter coolings such as CPNS's fan controller on lowest setting and case fans 5Ved it's a no brainer. It's not AMD's fault Dell Boy could'nt get things working.
Zebo
Elite Member
Have to agree with kini62 on the raptors. I had one. LOUDEST thing I ever heard until I got my 6800GT which I prompty ripped off it's HS for a water block. Anyway I returned to newegg the day after I got it. Even Seagate SATA's are too loud.. the PATA's they do something to to make them quieter.
I read very well . It's beacuse your VERY limited hardware knowledge thaty I say so.
Not at all the retail parts have 3 years of warranty, but if you look at my parts at the end, and if you would know something about hardware parts you would know that all the brands I use offer at least 3 years of warranty, Except for the raptors with a 5 years warranty. OUCHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the albatron 6800GT is certainly quiet.
Raptors 2% in performance gain???? JA JA JA!! You really don't know what a raptor is. http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...adid=1516994&STARTPAGE=3&enterthread=y
I don't think my system performs like an FX 55, it does cause it is runnig above FX55's clock speed (the only difference would be the caché, which doesn't affect the Athon 64 achitechture performance too much) . And yes my CPU is overclocked, a thing that you won't be able to do without some liquid nitrogen.
Here again showing your ignorance. You are a lost case.
I'm am really sorry that you spend that amount of money in an inferior system, but it is not my fault, its yours.
And bulid a PC is not only follow directions and use a screwdriver, you have to choose the right parts, you have to use your brain and find the best config for the system, That is the reason why you have to buy preassembled systems from DELL or from anyone.
Just go away with your DELL andl stop liying saying that it's faster and cheaper than a "similar" AMD configuration (Just beacause your very personal bad experiences with AMD). WE ALL KNOW IT IS FALSE, so you lost your time, mainly beacuse you are not able to prove it.
Markfw
Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
And I have to disagree about the 6800GT and the CPU noise vs his Dell. I don't know how noisey his is, but my 6800GT and Thermaltake silent Boost K8 can't be heard ! (virtually) The silent boost is 21dba, and I can't hear the 6800GT being any noisy than it !
Quote:"As for quiet, any system running an nVidia 6800GT or Ultra will be louder than mine., period. And unless you are running water cooling or have no fan on your CPU then your system will be louder than mine."
I call BS !
Quote:"As for quiet, any system running an nVidia 6800GT or Ultra will be louder than mine., period. And unless you are running water cooling or have no fan on your CPU then your system will be louder than mine."
I call BS !
RussianSensation
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2 Things:
1) X800XT beats 2x6600GTs because not all games are coded for SLI and X800XT is faster than 6800GT which is often faster than 2x6600GTs. For benchmarks please refer to: Massive Review
2) Since graphics card matters much more for gaming, this round is almost won. Now all you have to realize is that AMD's gaming prowess is a moot point. This is so because with an X800XT I'd expect you to be playing at 1600x1200 with AA/AF set. To see the insignificance of the differences between top end Intel vs. AMD, please refer here: Top End CPUs
On top of that, the Intel rig you specified has an Audigy 2 ZS. Between those 2 systems, for similar price today, the 2nd rig is a clear winner.
One problem to consider: The intel setup will have to undergo a chipset change before moving to dual core. AMD is supposed to have a simple bios update. This makes S939 a more futureproof solution for cpu upgrades. Also A64 supports 64-bit, and runs cooler (is the 3.6 a 600 series processor you are getting?)
So your best option would be to build A64 + X800XT + audigy 2 (or something along those lines).
1) X800XT beats 2x6600GTs because not all games are coded for SLI and X800XT is faster than 6800GT which is often faster than 2x6600GTs. For benchmarks please refer to: Massive Review
2) Since graphics card matters much more for gaming, this round is almost won. Now all you have to realize is that AMD's gaming prowess is a moot point. This is so because with an X800XT I'd expect you to be playing at 1600x1200 with AA/AF set. To see the insignificance of the differences between top end Intel vs. AMD, please refer here: Top End CPUs
On top of that, the Intel rig you specified has an Audigy 2 ZS. Between those 2 systems, for similar price today, the 2nd rig is a clear winner.
One problem to consider: The intel setup will have to undergo a chipset change before moving to dual core. AMD is supposed to have a simple bios update. This makes S939 a more futureproof solution for cpu upgrades. Also A64 supports 64-bit, and runs cooler (is the 3.6 a 600 series processor you are getting?)
So your best option would be to build A64 + X800XT + audigy 2 (or something along those lines).
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