AMD or Intel?, what way should I go??

Kintoke

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I have a p3-500 (Katmai, the old one) with a Soyo 6vba 133 (not the via 133a) and 128 in Ram. I was thinking of changing to a Duron 750 and an Asus A7V133 (when it go out). But I don`t know if I would improve performance too much if I change to that system, so that is my question, I would get much more preformance with a duron 750 (I probably want to O/C to 900 and higher if I can)than with my P3-500(and a Soyo 6vba 133)???.

Also, every Duron, from 600 to 750 can get to 1.0Ghz???

Well, thats all

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NOS440

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well I would hope so. Why don't you just buy a P-3 700e and over clock it on the board ya got ??
 

BatManUSMC

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If you do a Duron or Tbird use a Abit KT7 its by far the best and easyiest board to setup and OC with.

<<<Also, every Duron, from 600 to 750 can get to 1.0Ghz???>>>

I dont know about that but a buttload make it there, my 700 made it to 1050. I thinl most unlocked Durons make it to 950 or so. Again KT7 board...

BatMan
 

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Best board AMD wise is the MSI K7T Pro2A for stability &amp; overclocking, I would go the AMD route &amp; to be honest they are very easy to setup ,there is no big deal with the Via drivers if you can install sound/video drivers then these are just as simple.

:)
 

Assimilator1

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I'm with NOS440 on this 1,I think it would be most cost effective just to plug in a PIII &amp; overclock it.
 

Zephyr

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Get an
MSI K7Tpro2A ~$100
Duron 700 ~$55

for only a few $ more you get to keep your existing PIII+mobo combo, so I say go Duron
 

Kintoke

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Thanks, but look, here in chile, I can sell my p3-500 and my motherboard for about $280 (things sells high), so, to buy the motherboard and the duron, I have to put just $80 dolars.

well, nobody have answer me my question jet :), if I go to the DURON 750 way, I would get much more performance than my p3-500 with an old via apollo 133 motherboard???

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Zephyr

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I can't offer a complete covering answer since I have not worked with a PIII 500 enough to get much feel with the preformacce of it. However I'll take a close comaprison, an Athlon500 vs Duron 750 ... (and the Athlon500 is at least as fast as the PIII 500, in most cases faster) between those I'd say there's a very noticeable difference, even if they're not used for games and such. For only $80 I'd definately go for the upgrade
 

NOS440

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Of coarse if you jump 50% more in MHZ your going to feel the difference everywhere doesn't matter if its P-3 or Duron. which perform about the same. I was just suggesting a P-3 because they would be no reloading of your PC all ya do is pop the new one in and your in business. You can change the Motherboard and save your operating system and programs but it not a sure thing unless your real experienced in doing it and than its still not a 100% sure thing.
 

Zephyr

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Actually since he's switching from one Via to another it should work just fine... I've upgraded several MPV3 -> KT133 without reloading windows... I did reload the Via 4-in-1 drivers to make sure they were installed correctly for the new chipset, I believe that's the most critical part.
 

Kintoke

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I really don`t care about my programs, I will format and then start all over again, but that is not the point, I mean, now I have a TNT2U card (men, that thing is old!), and I get 40 fps in quake3, when all reviews using my same system and video card have at least 80 fps, so, even when I change things in the bios or in Win, I have the same results. So thats why Im asking that: I will get MUCH more preformance with a duron 750@950 than a p3-500?

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Zephyr

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Might be worth looking into what a new vid. card would do for your system if games is a main concern of yours.

to answer your question in short.. yes you would get much more preformance
 

Bigdude

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I just uprgraded my old BH6, I pulled the 366 o'c to 550, and put in a 566 celeron o/c to 850, paid $62 for it on the bay with a golden orb, it runs much cooler than my 550 did, I will sell the 550 combo and my upgrade cost could be zero. I have a Maxtor udma 66 7200 rpm drive, would it be worth it to get a udma 100 controller?
 

kengsim

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I've been with the Intel camp ever since my 486 DX/2-66 and I've just recently gotten myself a T-bird 1000. Much better than my previous P3-550 at 770. And dirt cheap too! I highly recommend getting an AMD. But if you really wanna stay with Intel, got for the 815E chipset boards. For AMD, use one of the new KT133A boards, but not the Soltek one. It sucks.

 

Piper1

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I would suggest a new video board. You can pick up a Geforce2 for around $150 and that'll help you out more than a CPU upgrade. I've got a system that has a P2-450@504MHz with a CLAP2 and can get over 60fps in Q3 at 1024x768x32 with full detail using this card.
 

Kintoke

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but I think that the CPU is also importan. So, people who had p3 pased system and changed to a Duron system please tell me: It is worth the change???

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NOS440

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Well I will tell ya this there is no system that will get 80 fps in Quake 3 with a TNT 2 Ultra it doesn't matter what CPU you put in the CPU is not what is limiting you. The only way that a TNT 2 Ultra could score that high would be with all detail in the game turn all the way down at the lowest possible resolution and I still don't think it could do it. In your case dollar for dollar a new video card will pick up your game performance way more.
 

lepper boy

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I have a celey 566 @ 850 with 192 meg or ram... just buitl a duron 600 with 128 meg ram oced to 1000...

I'm getting rid of my celey system and going straight duron.... does that tell you a little about the difference??

go duron...... cheap and easy....... wow.... like some other things shoule be.......
 

NOS440

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Yea but were not comparing the celery we all know its performance has been held back if you had a P-3 you would talk a different tune it out performs a Duron and is on par with a T-Bird.
 

Kintoke

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so... finally I decide to go to the duron way, I wish that I could obtain MUCH more preformance than my P3-500 + combo...so please, anyone who had this same question, post your asnwers!!!
 

NOS440

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If you want to gain alot more performance no matter if you go Intel or AMD the video card will have to be replaced for games.
 

starlitt

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I have the ABIT KT7 Board with Duron 700 @ 1000
What I should have gotten was the K7T pro2 because it has the same features probably stability too plus it is a bit cheaper.
So go for the Duron (I love the pencil trick if its locked) and the K7T. ;)
 

Kintoke

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but, for example, in 3dmark200 cpu benchmark, my result is 150..I will get 300, or more if I O/C my future duron 700???

But no one have answer me the question... I will Have much preformance (by much I mean to have at lease 50% more preformance than with my p3-500) with a duron 700 than in my p3-500??

thanks