AMD Official Statement - Polaris is NOT delayed

[Flapdrol1337]

Hello? This is your captain speaking, there is absolutely no cause for alarm.

Responding to these rumors, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

[exar333]

As others have stated, it is not very helpful to respond to these types of rumors (but you sort of have to). You are screwed either way, but AMD responded in a very responsible manner.

This is the age-old debate when information is hard to get around performance. Is it because it is 'bad' or is it because it's 'awesome' and they want to launch as a surprise? We have seen both by AMD. The 'Faildozer' example and the 48xx launch on the extremes.

 

[kraatus77]

As others have stated, it is not very helpful to respond to these types of rumors (but you sort of have to). You are screwed either way, but AMD responded in a very responsible manner.

This is the age-old debate when information is hard to get around performance. Is it because it is 'bad' or is it because it's 'awesome' and they want to launch as a surprise? We have seen both by AMD. The 'Faildozer' example and the 48xx launch on the extremes.

Well the 48xx was from ATI, and polaris is now from RTG, no amd exactly. so there's still some hope.

 

[3DVagabond]

Doesn't matter if Polaris 10 was only 10mm^2 and cost $1 to manufacture. If Polaris 10 were better than GTX 1070 it shouldn't be selling for $150 less. And in reality it almost certainly wouldn't, because GTX 1070 prices would drop in order to be more competitive.

Assuming they can meet demand.

 

[xpea]

Polaris may not be delayed but we won't know much more next week:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4jcf29/psa_the_call_on_518_at_9am_ct_about_polaris_is/

officially not about Polaris...

 

[ShintaiDK]

What a surprise.


Threadcrapping and trolling are not allowed
Markfw900

 

[sontin]

So, "there will be no specific technical details discussed". This is a funny statement when you put this on your agenda:

Inside look at Polaris
David Nalasco, Sr. Technology Manager - Radeon Technology Group

 

[Head1985]

Polaris launch at computex
http://videocardz.com/59947/amd-to-launch-polaris-10-at-computex

 

[renderstate]

Finally good news! Looking forward to hearing about new exciting tech!

 

[.vodka]

Wasn't that the plan all along? A Computex launch?

 

[lukart]

AMD will show the cards for the first time to the press in Macao end of this month.
And according to some news AIBs won't show any boards to the press Computex show.
The Polaris should be announced to the public mid to end of June.

Remember, they need to wait now for nvidia 1070 reviews to come out and then will set the stage couple weeks later with Polaris announcement in the media.

 

[JDG1980]

Maybe it's just me, but it seems that AMD - at least the Radeon Technologies Group side - has gotten a bit better at marketing recently. They've been doing an excellent job in the last few days of controlling rumors and tamping down unreasonable expectations. After getting bitten by the out-of-control hype train numerous times in the past (one that they were often driving - I'm looking right at Joe Macri), this indicates they're learning something.

 

[eRacer]

Polaris launch at computex
http://videocardz.com/59947/amd-to-launch-polaris-10-at-computex

That invite looks just like AMD's Computex page with a fake title and unnecessary blurs to make it seem legit.

 

[Sonikku13]

I'm really hoping a Polaris card blows my Nano out of the water. But then again, I don't wanna spend $300 on a new card when I got to get my new rig up and running... my Nano is fast enough for what I need it for.

 

[airfathaaaaa]

at this point nothing that videocardz is publishing is to be trusted...

they have managed to be worse that wccft..

 

[thesmokingman]

at this point nothing that videocardz is publishing is to be trusted...

they have managed to be worse that wccft..

What do you have against random dubious forum posts as sources? :sneaky:

 

[airfathaaaaa]

What do you have against random dubious forum posts as sources? :sneaky:

() () () () () :sneaky:

 

[RussianSensation]

My concern with Polaris 10 is 2-fold.

1) Even if at stock speeds it's ~ Fury / 980, will it have the same amazing overclocking headroom as the 1060Ti/1070?

2) Combining point #1, if Polaris 10 is $299, it might not look so stellar against a $379 1070. In other words, if 1070 is beating Polaris 10 by 20-25%, but the 1070 also has 20-25% overclocking headroom, it's still worth the premium to get the 1070.

In fact, even if Polaris 10 and 1070 are simply tied, many people would pay $80 extra for NV alone (recall $299 280X vs. $399-450 770 2-4GB). I bring this example a lot because it's exactly what happened in reality when the Tahiti AMD card was substantially less expensive throughout the entire duration of R9 280X vs. GTX770 generation.

Perhaps AMD wants to see where AIBs price 1070 and what the availability of 1070 is before they finalize the pricing for Polaris 10. As far as GPU clocks are concerned, I am confident that technically speaking the specs for Polaris 10/11 have been finalized. This is probably why AMD is so quiet right now because the $379 price of 1070 and Pascal's overclocking headroom on air caught them by surprise.

Maybe AMD will surprise and launch Polaris 10 at very aggressive price points such as $229 and $279. This way it'll be completely out of the way of 1070 and NV will have no response whatsoever for months.

 

[mohit9206]

My concern with Polaris 10 is 2-fold.

1) Even if at stock speeds it's ~ Fury / 980, will it have the same amazing overclocking headroom as the 1060Ti/1070?

2) Combining point #1, if Polaris 10 is $299, it might not look so stellar against a $379 1070. In other words, if 1070 is beating Polaris 10 by 20-25%, but the 1070 also has 20-25% overclocking headroom, it's still worth the premium to get the 1070.

In fact, even if Polaris 10 and 1070 are simply tied, many people would pay $80 extra for NV alone (recall $299 280X vs. $399-450 770 2-4GB). I bring this example a lot because it's exactly what happened in reality when the Tahiti AMD card was substantially less expensive throughout the entire duration of R9 280X vs. GTX770 generation.

Perhaps AMD wants to see where AIBs price 1070 and what the availability of 1070 is before they finalize the pricing for Polaris 10. As far as GPU clocks are concerned, I am confident that technically speaking the specs for Polaris 10/11 have been finalized. This is probably why AMD is so quiet right now because the $379 price of 1070 and Pascal's overclocking headroom on air caught them by susrprie.

Maybe AMD will surprise and launch Polaris 10 at very aggressive price points such as $229 and $279. This way it'll be completely out of the way of 1070 and NV will have no response whatsoever for months.

I too thought AMD might price Polaris aggresively until it came to light they will price R9 470X at $169.Since this price is hardly what one would call aggressive,i think AMD is going for healthy profits on each card sold rather than aggressive pricing.Although its just a rumor about 470X,i feel its right.Polaris will indeed be cheaper,however don't get your hopes up on expecting better price/performance than Nvidia.

 

[Noctifer616]

I too thought AMD might price Polaris aggresively until it came to light they will price R9 470X at $169.Since this price is hardly what one would call aggressive,i think AMD is going for healthy profits on each card sold rather than aggressive pricing.Although its just a rumor about 470X,i feel its right.Polaris will indeed be cheaper,however don't get your hopes up on expecting better price/performance than Nvidia.

What were you expecting when their competition is selling mid range cards for enthusiast prices? AMD ain't no charity, they will try to mild the low to midrange segment as long as possible, it would be stupid not to for any business.

 

[selni]

My concern with Polaris 10 is 2-fold.

1) Even if at stock speeds it's ~ Fury / 980, will it have the same amazing overclocking headroom as the 1060Ti/1070?

2) Combining point #1, if Polaris 10 is $299, it might not look so stellar against a $379 1070. In other words, if 1070 is beating Polaris 10 by 20-25%, but the 1070 also has 20-25% overclocking headroom, it's still worth the premium to get the 1070.

In fact, even if Polaris 10 and 1070 are simply tied, many people would pay $80 extra for NV alone (recall $299 280X vs. $399-450 770 2-4GB). I bring this example a lot because it's exactly what happened in reality when the Tahiti AMD card was substantially less expensive throughout the entire duration of R9 280X vs. GTX770 generation.

Perhaps AMD wants to see where AIBs price 1070 and what the availability of 1070 is before they finalize the pricing for Polaris 10. As far as GPU clocks are concerned, I am confident that technically speaking the specs for Polaris 10/11 have been finalized. This is probably why AMD is so quiet right now because the $379 price of 1070 and Pascal's overclocking headroom on air caught them by surprise.

Maybe AMD will surprise and launch Polaris 10 at very aggressive price points such as $229 and $279. This way it'll be completely out of the way of 1070 and NV will have no response whatsoever for months.

770 2GB was $329 very quickly after the 280X release, not $399.

 

[mkmitch]

I paid $330 for my 770-4 mb after returning two Radeon cards that had the dreaded blackscreen disease. Two computer shops couldn't fix the problem nor could I. Had never purchase Nvidia card up before this. I'm well into my 60's and ran IT before I retired so its not like I haven't traveled a few blocks. These were 290X's.

 

[guskline]

I will be following the tech info from AMD and then read the analysis to see how close the Polaris releases are to the GTX 1070. I'm a realist. I seriously doubt either Polaris will challenge the GTX 1080 but why should they? Especially for the prices bantered about (up to $400.00)

I owned a GTX 970 and sent it back after the 3.5 Vram scandal was exposed. I "moved down" to a R9 290 on principal so for me it made sense BUT it seems quite evident that the GTX 970 was a marketing phenomenon, despite this Vram exposure and it made Nvidia TONS of $$ despite this. AMD had a tough time answering with HOT Hawaii.

I bet this wasn't lost on Raji Kaduri or Dr. SU of AMD.

They need a price AND performance competitive gpu to the GTX 1070.

 

[Zstream]

My concern with Polaris 10 is 2-fold.

1) Even if at stock speeds it's ~ Fury / 980, will it have the same amazing overclocking headroom as the 1060Ti/1070?

2) Combining point #1, if Polaris 10 is $299, it might not look so stellar against a $379 1070. In other words, if 1070 is beating Polaris 10 by 20-25%, but the 1070 also has 20-25% overclocking headroom, it's still worth the premium to get the 1070.

In fact, even if Polaris 10 and 1070 are simply tied, many people would pay $80 extra for NV alone (recall $299 280X vs. $399-450 770 2-4GB). I bring this example a lot because it's exactly what happened in reality when the Tahiti AMD card was substantially less expensive throughout the entire duration of R9 280X vs. GTX770 generation.

Perhaps AMD wants to see where AIBs price 1070 and what the availability of 1070 is before they finalize the pricing for Polaris 10. As far as GPU clocks are concerned, I am confident that technically speaking the specs for Polaris 10/11 have been finalized. This is probably why AMD is so quiet right now because the $379 price of 1070 and Pascal's overclocking headroom on air caught them by surprise.

Maybe AMD will surprise and launch Polaris 10 at very aggressive price points such as $229 and $279. This way it'll be completely out of the way of 1070 and NV will have no response whatsoever for months.

That's not the issue at all. It's the brand and they need to do something to make the brand stand out. When you overhear dumbasses at microcenter or Best Buy give customers a speech as to why Nvidia is better for literally the dumbest of reasons, you have a brand problem. If I was a product manager, I would have a month long trip across the states and have launch parties at every decent sized city and invite these types of people.

 

[raghu78]

My concern with Polaris 10 is 2-fold.

1) Even if at stock speeds it's ~ Fury / 980, will it have the same amazing overclocking headroom as the 1060Ti/1070?

2) Combining point #1, if Polaris 10 is $299, it might not look so stellar against a $379 1070. In other words, if 1070 is beating Polaris 10 by 20-25%, but the 1070 also has 20-25% overclocking headroom, it's still worth the premium to get the 1070.

In fact, even if Polaris 10 and 1070 are simply tied, many people would pay $80 extra for NV alone (recall $299 280X vs. $399-450 770 2-4GB). I bring this example a lot because it's exactly what happened in reality when the Tahiti AMD card was substantially less expensive throughout the entire duration of R9 280X vs. GTX770 generation.

Perhaps AMD wants to see where AIBs price 1070 and what the availability of 1070 is before they finalize the pricing for Polaris 10. As far as GPU clocks are concerned, I am confident that technically speaking the specs for Polaris 10/11 have been finalized. This is probably why AMD is so quiet right now because the $379 price of 1070 and Pascal's overclocking headroom on air caught them by surprise.

Maybe AMD will surprise and launch Polaris 10 at very aggressive price points such as $229 and $279. This way it'll be completely out of the way of 1070 and NV will have no response whatsoever for months.

RS why don't you wait for launch day reviews and let the products fight it out on their merits. I think you jump to conclusions too early. We do not know anything about how Polaris 10 performs at stock, its overclockability and price. More importantly we do not know how good the volume availability of Nvidia and AMD products will be. It all boils down to being able to satisfy the demand for products at a certain price point. Chill down and just wait for a month. The wait is finally going to get over.

I have not seen Nvidia rush a launch for a long time. GTX 1080 reviews are releasing almost 10 days before retail availability. That was not the case with GTX 680 and GTX 980. They launched with retail availability on the day reviews were out. Somehow I have a feeling Nvidia's launch is rushed. Anyway I think AMD has a competitive product and should do well.