AMD Official Statement - Polaris is NOT delayed

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positivedoppler

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I am a hardware enthusiast for the record.

That said, being aware of the fact that there are people sitting on $100MM of paper losses over the last month in AMD's stock that are not in a good situation to exit that position given the lack of daily liquidity might help one understand the likelihood of negative rumors appearing. I don't know for certain that that's where it's coming from, but given I have a little bit of a background in stocks I know it's something that occurs often.

If spending $20-30k to move the stock with some bad news helps you exit a few percentage points better and no one is the wiser, people will definitely do it, particularly short sellers.

I'm agreeing with your point previously. The 100's of millions of shares short, just too much financial interest in this company on Wall Street. Makes me wonder about the motives behind a few clever posters here.
 

antihelten

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You are not even close to a good estimate of profit because you are basing things on same size chip. AMD at 232 mm2 will have almost 2X the amount of good dies as compared to 317mm2 Nvidia GP104

So what you're saying is that you didn't actually bother reading my entire post, seeing as I actually addressed this in the very next paragraph.
 

airfathaaaaa

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On track to what? Also duh that AMD will be at Computex but this says nothing about its AIB partners showing off Polaris GPUs for gamers.

Great PR spin from AMD, but it doesn't actually directly address the rumors.
so by saying polaris is on track on your vocabulary means "no" ? D:
 

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Me, I'm hoping for a WWDC announcement of a new Mac Pro with Broadwell-E and Polaris 10. That would definitely be my next system (assuming it can still run Windows 7).

Forget it. Current Mac Pro from 2013 was able only to run Windows 8.0 and higher.
 

Glo.

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They dont have to officialy comment on rumours, that would be a PR mistake...

As to why they are silent, they are not, their silence is telling..

All this noise is to push them disclosing the characteristics of their cards, an info their competitor need to set the frequencies of its GTX1070, you think it s by chance that Nvidia still didnt release the specs for this card..?.

Besides AMD are not stupid, from the already published numbers they know that for some reason their competitor fell short to concretise the full improvement of TSMC s 16FF+, and hence that Polaris may end even more competitive than expected...

Well, you have said exactly what I have already been thinking... ;)
 

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All this noise is to push them disclosing the characteristics of their cards, an info their competitor need to set the frequencies of its GTX1070, you think it s by chance that Nvidia still didnt release the specs for this card..?.

What? Unlike AMD, who cant deliver cards after a 5 months paperlaunch, nVidia has set a date for the GTX1070. Everything about the card is set in stone.
 

airfathaaaaa

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What? Unlike AMD, who cant deliver cards after a 5 months paperlaunch, nVidia has set a date for the GTX1070. Everything about the card is set in stone.
we know about computex like 2 months now why would they release it sooner?
they said it like a million times computex computex computex...and yet people are screaming that they dont deliver...
#logic 2016
 

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What? Unlike AMD, who cant deliver cards after a 5 months paperlaunch, nVidia has set a date for the GTX1070. Everything about the card is set in stone.
But not full specs, do you know how many CC it's got? core frequency? rop?memory frequency? tmu? anything apart from 6.5t/s and 8 gb ddr5 ?
 

sontin

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Nobody cares that they will paperlaunch Polaris again at the Computex. The GTX1070 will come at June 10th. So why can AMD give us a date?

But not full specs, do you know how many CC it's got? core frequency? rop?memory frequency? tmu? anything apart from 6.5t/s and 8 gb ddr5 ?

Doesnt matter. Between Computex and release are only two weeks left. And i thought we learnt that no informations mean nothing...
 

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please can you provide any proof/fact that they will paperlaunch them on computex? or you are like someone else that kepts evading every time we ask for proofs

did nvidia gave you a date BEFORE they launched the card?
 

sontin

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Oh you mean they wont announce any real new informations about Polaris at Computex?

AMD should just give us their schedule if they are on track.
 

airfathaaaaa

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Oh you mean they wont announce any real new informations about Polaris at Computex?

AMD should just give us their schedule if they are on track.

that is funny... i ask for proof and you just throw the ball into orbit

as always

again
1)proof for a second paperlaunch on computex
2) proof that nvidia announced days BEFORE their launch
 

kraatus77

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Oh you mean they wont announce any real new informations about Polaris at Computex?

AMD should just give us their schedule if they are on track.
They did , mid 2016. why they will tell exact details ? so that nvidia can ruin it ? like in the past ?

You will not gonna buy it anyways, so why they care ?
 
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kraatus77

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They ruined it already with GTX 10x0 paperlaunch :biggrin:
Not really because Polaris is not a 1080 level chip. But well below it. Not everyone has money for 400$+ chip.
 
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we know about computex like 2 months now why would they release it sooner?
they said it like a million times computex computex computex...and yet people are screaming that they dont deliver...
#logic 2016

cant argue with clueless people you know.


Personal attacks are not allowed here.
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Abwx

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What? Unlike AMD, who cant deliver cards after a 5 months paperlaunch, nVidia has set a date for the GTX1070. Everything about the card is set in stone.


It require a good dose of bad faith to state that they launched Polaris at CES when they actually only did a demo...

Or perhaps could you point us to articles that they did so, that they launched it at the time, while you re at it could you please release the specs as well, there s lot of people interested by thoses infos here...
 

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Heh, its fun to watch the forum attain higher and higher resonance levels over the same null information as we get closer to actual benchmarks :).
 

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Regardless of their PR, AMD is still failing bigtime here. The fact they they are not launching product right now proves that they failed in some way. We may not know exactly, whether its low clocks, bad yields, bad design, or just lack of resources, or just really poor scheduling. whatever the reason, they are losing millions a month by being late. Simply meeting the 1070 head on with a product that matches it in perf/$$ terms I believe would shift as much as 40% of 1070 sales towards AMD's pockets.
 

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Regardless of their PR, AMD is still failing bigtime here. The fact they they are not launching product right now proves that they failed in some way. We may not know exactly, whether its low clocks, bad yields, bad design, or just lack of resources, or just really poor scheduling. whatever the reason, they are losing millions a month by being late. Simply meeting the 1070 head on with a product that matches it in perf/$$ terms I believe would shift as much as 40% of 1070 sales towards AMD's pockets.
again and once more...
amd said about launching on computex 2 freaking months now there is absolutely no reason at all to launch early
 

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AMD will launch when they want to. Glad they mentioned the "rumor" being BS.

I wonder how close Polaris will be to the GTX 1070. In my opinion , that is the battle ground.
 

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Regardless of their PR, AMD is still failing bigtime here. The fact they they are not launching product right now proves that they failed in some way. We may not know exactly, whether its low clocks, bad yields, bad design, or just lack of resources, or just really poor scheduling. whatever the reason, they are losing millions a month by being late. Simply meeting the 1070 head on with a product that matches it in perf/$$ terms I believe would shift as much as 40% of 1070 sales towards AMD's pockets.
This is a very strange argument.

Unless you have detailed knowledge on many disparate parts of the industry, someone could use your same points to ask, why didn’t Polaris launch in January or March or whenever. Or why didn't Nvidia launch the 1000 series (x) months ago. You can't just pull reasons out of your imagination.

Do you see the fantasy thinking involved here?
Do you see any constraints out of their control that prevent any company from launching a product?
 

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Regardless of their PR, AMD is still failing bigtime here. The fact they they are not launching product right now proves that they failed in some way. We may not know exactly, whether its low clocks, bad yields, bad design, or just lack of resources, or just really poor scheduling. whatever the reason, they are losing millions a month by being late. Simply meeting the 1070 head on with a product that matches it in perf/$$ terms I believe would shift as much as 40% of 1070 sales towards AMD's pockets.

They know the date they need to beat now. If they have product they'll want to have enough stockpiled to meet all demand to capitalize on release date excitement. People waiting on a sold out good start to second guess. They also want to beat NV. It's close enough that the people who are going to wait to see both will wait to see both. So unless they have enough supply for everyone interested (in which case they'll be beating the heck out of NV and the shenanigans they're pulling to cover for inadequate stock), it's in their best interest to release right before NV's cards hit the market.

You can't just say that they haven't met the 1070 head on with a product when there's a big telegraphed event that's going to be happening in time for them to do just that.
 
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