AMD "Never Settle" 12.11 Driver - benchmarks are in!

[3DVagabond]

I don't even care enough to give them traffic checking in on them playing tickle butt with each other over trolling the posters here. Many in VC&G disagree about things at times, but for the most part things remain pretty civil.

+1

 

[railven]

Well then...Hurricane Sandy has made this week rather slow, and I decided to take up a challenge presented to me (plus it seems Ocre likes me by name /wave Ocre) and then I got:

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Creating a new account is currently not possible.

Interesting. I guess they don't want new members yet they claim they are getting new members from here (and every where else.)

Oh well.

@Blackened: Haha, totally. I actually got both my cards (and my GTX 460/GTX 660) from AMD HQ. The Intel processors I got, them too. I have to find the dirty on all of them and post on the forums non-stop!

Shhh, but you didn't hear this from me.

 

[Jaydip]

hey rail I think due to spamming they changed their registration process.You have to mail to "RegistrationAdmin@AlienBabelTech.com" to create a new account.

 

[railven]

hey rail I think due to spamming they changed their registration process.You have to mail to "RegistrationAdmin@AlienBabelTech.com" to create a new account.

I recall the spamming (and Google download file issues), must have missed the email requirement. Well then, off to send my application.

Do I have to include anything outside of just "Hi, I want to join?"

 

[NIGELG]

Well then...Hurricane Sandy has made this week rather slow, and I decided to take up a challenge presented to me (plus it seems Ocre likes me by name /wave Ocre) and then I got:



Interesting. I guess they don't want new members yet they claim they are getting new members from here (and every where else.)

Oh well.

@Blackened: Haha, totally. I actually got both my cards (and my GTX 460/GTX 660) from AMD HQ. The Intel processors I got, them too. I have to find the dirty on all of them and post on the forums non-stop!

Shhh, but you didn't hear this from me.

If you join then they might actually have more than a dozen posters....LOL.

But most likely you'll be chewed up and spat out of there.

Good luck.

 

[Jaydip]

I recall the spamming (and Google download file issues), must have missed the email requirement. Well then, off to send my application.

Do I have to include anything outside of just "Hi, I want to join?"

Nah I think it will be sufficient

 

[railven]

If you join then they might actually have more than a dozen posters....LOL.

But most likely you'll be chewed up and spat out of there.

Good luck.

Chewed up? Sure, spat out? Naaah. I like to think I have a savory flavor, that and I'm dense (derp) so words don't hurt me

Nah I think it will be sufficient

Thanks Jaydip! I'll see you on the otherside of the fence

 

[NIGELG]

Chewed up? Sure, spat out? Naaah. I link to think I have a savory flavor, that and I'm dense (derp) so words don't hurt me



Thanks Jaydip! I see you on the otherside of the fence

I actually like to visit the site in spite of it's absurd editor. It is really struggling for members.There's not a single new post in Video since 245 AM.

It's like ABT is analogous to AMD and ATF is analogous to Intel.....no competition.

 

[SirPauly]

Isn't it funny that some people claim this gen is lack luster in the perfomance department yet the 7970 pretty much beats out the 6990 and GTX 590 clean and clear in most games? What the heck are people expecting?

Launch flag ships for both companies may of been lackluster from a price/performance stand-point considering the node and arch were substantial and significant to some. Do you agree or disagree?

With competition, more choices, driver and node maturity, thankfully 28nm price/performance has improved.

nVidia garnered around 36 percent performance with a full node and AMD garnered around 41 percent with a full node but yet charged 50 percent more. One can make the point it was one of the weakest price/performance gains in history for both.

 

[railven]

Launch flag ships for both companies may of been lackluster from a price/performance stand-point considering the node and arch were substantial and significant to some. Do you agree or disagree?

I know you didn't ask me, but just wanted to answer. Disagree, only on the premise that prices entering this generation were grossly inflated due to lack of price movement in the prior. AMD releasing at a lower price point than the current $500 GTX 580 would have been a consumer's dream but not a business savvy move. On the side of metrics, the card sold for 10% more and had about 15-20% more performance (depending on games) with less power consumption - an overall win over the product.

It seems people only like to compare products to one family (ie HD 6970 to HD 7970) when cards are in competition with the whole market.

In January 2012, if someone had $500-600 dollars to spend, which card would you recommend - GTX 580 or HD 7970?

The price started to shift once we saw what should have happened mid - 2011, a price drop on nVidia hardware.

In the end, the consumers supported the $500+ price tag of the GTX 580 for 12+ months, so the markets were set. Of course, once proper competition entered, everything shifted.

Price/Perf is a moving target, and people have to look at everything not just one specific point and then make a conclusion.

 

[NTMBK]

If you want to find the posters that have been kicked out of here....go check AlienBabyTech...that's where they hang out.
It's a cheap rubbish site whose "leader" is a prima donna and who blames all his misfortunes on AMD "Illuminati" who "secretly" infest forums such as AT and TechReport.
All we ever see is veiled hints at secret manifestos and lists of subversives who apparently are working against him and his site.
Naturally he never,EVER publishes such proof or his "DaVinciCode" lists of paid AMD "shills" either.:thumbsdown:

Oh wow, that forum is comedy gold. Seriously, check out this thread Balla started over there: http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=25715&sid=76c2fc8df86a5dca983ddef13472e2fc EDIT: Actually, don't check it out, I don't want to give those idiots even more traffic.

I mean, wow.

 

[Will Robinson]

OMG that thread is a Hate Train wreck.
Keys,Appopin,BallaTheHutt,Ocre....ugh it's all there:thumbsdown:

 

[Jaydip]

Chewed up? Sure, spat out? Naaah. I like to think I have a savory flavor, that and I'm dense (derp) so words don't hurt me



Thanks Jaydip! I'll see you on the otherside of the fence

Cya :biggrin:

 

[blackened23]

Also learned today: AMD owns anandtech and virge, the "enabler mod" is also owned by AMD. Scully and Moulder are on the case.

 

[NIGELG]

Must cost AMD a lot of money....oh wait....

It's all nonsense to me...

 

[railven]

Cya :biggrin:

Welps, so far no response. I wonder if I have to wait for Dave, maybe I should find him in the P&N section (speaking of which - that section is cut throat, woof!)

 

[Jaydip]

Yeah he mostly lurks around P&N I believe

 

[blastingcap]

Does ABT's advertisers know how juvenile ABT's editor in chief is? Maybe they should. A simple link to ABT forums ought to be sufficient evidence.

 

[chimaxi83]

Sad that Apoppin, and who I'm assuming is some grown man trying to make money on his site, enables and participates in the Nvidia fanboy circle jerk there. Poor BallFeeler runs and posts there and the circle of yes men convince each other that all of them are right. It's really kinda weird :what:

Anyway, after a few days of BF3 game play, I believe these drivers to be the smoothest yet. My minimums on 64 player mp servers went from mid 30s to low 50s, at 1920*1080 maxed with FXAA. I think it's great....though not as great as 470 SLI

 

[railven]

Does ABT's advertisers know how juvenile ABT's editor in chief is? Maybe they should. A simple link to ABT forums ought to be sufficient evidence.

I wondered that myself, but I didn't want to be 'that guy' that screen captures him calling someone who read his article a tool and passing it around partners.

I'm not sure how partners would respond, I'm sure nVidia is loving the AMD hate he's been spewing haha, Intel probably too.

 

[blastingcap]

I wondered that myself, but I didn't want to be 'that guy' that screen captures him calling someone who read his article a tool and passing it around partners.

I'm not sure how partners would respond, I'm sure nVidia is loving the AMD hate he's been spewing haha, Intel probably too.

Me neither, but this guy apparently doesn't care how unprofessional he's being and apparently won't change until he's kicked in the nuts by advertisers. He apparently likes fanning the flames and thinks it will drive more traffic and ad revenue to his site, a rather slimy way of thinking.

He is being completely unprofessional regardless of the exact content. Imagine Anand, W1zzard, SKYMTL, etc. behaving that way on forums. None of them behave that way. If apoppin wants to be seen as a serious tech editor, he needs to stop participating in and encouraging fanboi hate-filled propaganda. If he has real evidence of shills or whatever he should just publish it or shut up about it, pick one. Can you imagine Anand posting in forums muttering about how he knows about shills, has proof, but won't disclose such info?

 

[railven]

Me neither, but this guy apparently doesn't care how unprofessional he's being and apparently won't change until he's kicked in the nuts by advertisers. He apparently likes fanning the flames and thinks it will drive more traffic and ad revenue to his site, a rather slimy way of thinking.

He is being completely unprofessional regardless of the exact content. Imagine Anand, W1zzard, SKYMTL, etc. behaving that way on forums. None of them behave that way. If apoppin wants to be seen as a serious tech editor, he needs to stop participating in and encouraging fanboi hate-filled propaganda. If he has real evidence of shills or whatever he should just publish it or shut up about it, pick one. Can you imagine Anand posting in forums muttering about how he knows about shills, has proof, but won't disclose such info?

First of all, I'd love it if Anand posted in the forums regulary - that guy is like a celebrity to me. All we get is Ryan Smith P just teasing) haha.

The only other online identity I can remotely compare him to is KyleB from [H]ardOCP. Big difference is, Kyle is like doing stuff, and posting reviews/articles/you name it left and right. I'm not trying to say his popularity justifies his actions (or iron fist rule of his forums), but more so Mark claims he's being targeted...where? The majority of sites I visit don't even mention ABT, here I mention it once in a while (seems to be only me, his adoring fan of a tool :wub because it seems the guy is bat-guano-crazy! Like 4 people post negatively about him here, KyleB has thousands (THOUSANDS) and yet in Mark's world ABT/Mark >= [H]Ard/KyleB, at least that's what one would infer from reading his posts. It's about "I'm doing this, after I finish this, then I got this to do" yet, waiting for articles nothing manifest! So WTF is he doing when he's constantly stating he has so much to do? 3 articles in one day was an achievement for him. That was 60% of his articles for the month, one of which he said he'd had been working on for months. /facepalm

I'm also starting to think I won't get invited to join, even though he challenged me.

 

[SirPauly]

but not a business savvy move.

Imho,

Don't disagree with that specific premise or context based on companies desire to maximize revenue, profit and margins. Can't blame companies for they do have all the risk. Market does indeed set pricing and dynamic and ever changing, and rightly or wrongly markets decide.

Why would AMD leave revenue, profits and margins on the table? They didn't. And similar reasons what nvidia is doing with the pricing of their 6XX family if the market is there for it.

It's tough to strongly defend premiums and personally like to see improved price/performance relative to AMD's from nVidia -- heck, what kind of gamer doesn't like the bundle deal from AMD? Incredible! However, the market is what the market is -- hopefully will continue to be dynamic, ever changing so gamers - no matter what company they choose may find improved value.

However, this 28nm price/performance, at the start, felt more evolutionary and incremental considering the node and arch were substantial and significant -- it's amazing what competition and choice did to improve this.

 

[SirPauly]

I'm also starting to think I won't get invited to join, even though he challenged me.

I post there at times, would welcome your points-of-view!

Edit:

The best debates are from two opposing view points -- as long as they are not personal in nature -- sometimes informative and entertaining!

 

[NIGELG]

Not a single post in Video on ABT since 245 am this morning.I don't mind giving them hits because they really need all the help they can get.

It's like a wasteland there.I read the forums there for pure entertainment really.

Does anyone know of any serious bugs with the new Catalyst drivers?