AMD launches Zen+ 12nm Ryzen and X470 motherboards

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Topweasel

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I was just looking today and was thinking about upgrading to faster Memory, something like 32GB of G.skill DDR4 3200 RGB from my 16GB of Crucial Ballistix DDR4 2666 which I have now. Would it be worth it to upgrade now or is DDR5 right around the corner? Wanting to upgrade because of the 15% off sale going on right now at newegg. Would I even see an improvement going from 2666 to 3200 and 16gb to 32gb? I do a crap ton of photo and video editing and some gaming. What is the speed standard going to be this time around with the New Ryzen 2 CPU's. Wanting a 2800x or what ever the top model is in April. What would you guys do buy now or wait a little bit?

What is just around the corner to you. It's another 2+ years till we see it from AMD, maybe longer, AMD might not want to be the only platform using it so they might wait out Intel making the change.
 

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AMD expects CPU launches through 2020 to far exceed the typical 7-percent to 8-percent performance increases we've seen of late.

(from https://www.pcworld.com/article/324...r-2-7nm-navi-and-more-in-ces-blockbuster.html)

I don't see a spike corresponding to the 40% jump from excavator to zen. Is the industry trend supposed to be everyone not AMD or perhaps just Intel?
 

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I don't see a spike corresponding to the 40% jump from excavator to zen. Is the industry trend supposed to be everyone not AMD or perhaps just Intel?

Yet it is here and about accurate, FI perf/clock wise 1 Zen core = 1.13 XV module in Cinebench 11.5...
 

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Videocardz saved the images before they went poof:
https://videocardz.com/75185/first-benchmarks-of-ryzen-7-2000-cpu-have-been-leaked

The side to side comparison seems to suggest this is the 2700X being shown. If true, I wonder how much faster the 2800X is, and how much it can be pushed with an OC. It must be running pretty close to maximum if the 2700X is capable of boosting beyond 4.3GHz.

The other thing is 2666 CL16 RAM giving memory latency numbers close to 3200 CL14 RAM on Ryzen 1xxx at launch. If true, then we are looking at a double digit reduction in memory latency. The question then is: can it support 3600+ CL14 OC or better?

I'll wait for independent reviews, but things are looking pretty decent so far.
 

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Videocardz saved the images before they went poof:
https://videocardz.com/75185/first-benchmarks-of-ryzen-7-2000-cpu-have-been-leaked

The side to side comparison seems to suggest this is the 2700X being shown. If true, I wonder how much faster the 2800X is, and how much it can be pushed with an OC. It must be running pretty close to maximum if the 2700X is capable of boosting beyond 4.3GHz.

The other thing is 2666 CL16 RAM giving memory latency numbers close to 3200 CL14 RAM on Ryzen 1xxx at launch. If true, then we are looking at a double digit reduction in memory latency. The question then is: can it support 3600+ CL14 OC or better?

I'll wait for independent reviews, but things are looking pretty decent so far.

The source didn't say anything at all about this being the "Ryzen 7 2700X".

In fact, it was just called "future processor".

Furthermore, I don't think there's a need to have "Ryzen 7 2700X" and "Ryzen 7 2800X".

It should be - top binned: Ryzen 7 2700X, and the rest: Ryzen 7 2700
 
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So If OC to 4.4 or 4.5 GHz is possible for 24/7 then R5 2600X might be killer for intel desktop LGA 1151.
 

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So If OC to 4.4 or 4.5 GHz is possible for 24/7 then R5 2600X might be killer for intel desktop LGA 1151.

...which is why Intel is rumored to be bringing 8-cores to the mainstream when Zen 2 arrives

Of cause, it would be funny to see Z370 motherboards owners realizing that the need to buy new motherboards again, esp. since it turns out that Coffee Lake can run on Z270 motherboards with modied BIOS.

Meanwhile, a lot of people on Zen would do drop-in replacements with Zen 2.
 
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IRobot23

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Yeah,
I have R7 1700 3,8GHz and working as it should... I am going to wait for 7nm.
 

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...which is why Intel is rumored to be bringing 8-cores to the mainstream when Zen 2 arrives

Of cause, it would be funny to see Z370 motherboards owners realizing that the need to buy new motherboards again, esp. since it turns out that Coffee Lake can run on Z270 motherboards with modied BIOS.

Meanwhile, a lot of people on Zen would do drop-in replacements with Zen 2.
There doesn't actually seem to be any sign of a desktop 8C chip from Intel, though.
 

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Since the benchmarks from HWBattle was conducted using Radeon RX Vega 64, do the Physics Score(s) change if Geforce GTX 1080/1080Ti were used instead?
 
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Reposting this here for reference.


You'd be wrong. I plan on upgrading to the the Threadripper 2950x in august. I'm sure others will make the jump to their respective upgrades as well.
Yeah I might not be doing a straight up upgrade. I'll being doing a smaller more job specific build. But my main computer is going to get a 2700xish upgrade and the new system my 1700.
 
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Reposting this here for reference.


You'd be wrong. I plan on upgrading to the the Threadripper 2950x in august. I'm sure others will make the jump to their respective upgrades as well.

I'll likely do it too. My 1700x is too slow to not OC and I prefer to run my CPU stock these days for guaranteed stability. If a 2800x is 4.0/4.4 or even 3.9/4.3 that will look very appealing to me. Just hope my X370 board can run the new Precision Boost the same as X470.
 

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So where are all the pictures of all the new motherboards?Last year we got pictures and adverts for motherboards 2 to 3 month before launch to get everyone excited for Ryzen.Its only a little over a month for release I want my pics...!!
 
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Reposting this here for reference.


You'd be wrong. I plan on upgrading to the the Threadripper 2950x in august. I'm sure others will make the jump to their respective upgrades as well.

One data point can't be used to prove/disprove the claim that the user made. Going from Zen to Zen+ would be like going from Skylake to Kaby Lake -- no real reason to do it unless you just have to have the best CPU that your motherboard supports.
 
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