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JackHawksmoor

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It's just plain rude to accuse me of incompetence. Hilariously enough, without even trying to solve the problem yourself.

Just to respond to one of these:

"#1 Your blaming AMD on a problem on a problem you have with a specific MB which is wrong."

I didn't specifically blame the processor, I'm blaiming the chipset and motherboard.

"But #2 you didnt even try many ways to fix it.... Did you try moving the modem to another PCI slot?"

And you "know" I didn't try many ways to fix it because...? I've spent months working on this. Furthermore, it isn't even a PCI modem.

"#3 You using WinME which has lots of problem try 98 I bet it probably works."

I've tried both versions of 98.

"#4 Try BIOS 1005A"

I've tried every BIOS.
 
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Sugadaddy

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<< As near as I can tell this is entirly the chipset's fault >>


Oh please! I don't even need to comment on this...:disgust:





<< Crap behind the keyboard, that's the problem. >>


Ahmen to that!

Seriously, unless you have something defective in your system, it should be just as stable as an Intel system. You could be having the same problems with an Intel system too...
 
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zippy

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<<
or user error
Click to expand...

Hardly office boy. This is the hardware's fault, plain and simple. >>


Just curious but are you an MSCE?

Why not post a link to your thread (the one in Tech Support)?
 
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R0b0tN1k

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AMD might be fine for you kids to play with all day, but in the real world stability is the most important aspect of a system and AMD just can't provide that. Ever notice how AMD has no server products? How no companies use AMD products? Makes ya wonder, huh? You kids can keep AMD...they just aren't worth the problems.
 
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NforSa

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LOL!!
if your not blaming AMD, then why is the topic 'AMD is not worth it!'
why not ' VIA is not worth it, stick with AMD chipsets'!

anyway, the VIA chipset is a very reliable, quick and stable chipset if its set up right, sure, there might be some defective boards (which you might have one of them), if you think the board is bad RMA it dont winge and complain about something that has nothing to do with VIA.

I use MSI and Epox via KT-133 chipset m/b's when building athlon/duron systems, and have never had a problem, even when using older generic memory, AGP4x cards, or 5 or 6 PCI cards at once, and I build at least 10 systems per month using VIA technology, and Im only 17 years old, and still manage to figure it out :D

if you havent tried all the tips and tricks people giva (new bios's, etc, etc) then you shouldnt winge at all :p
 
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Bluga

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i've used MSI for the first time with T-Bird and had no problem for 1/2 yr now.

One of my friend who has Asus + PIII ran into a lot of problems.
 
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R0b0tN1k-

Yes, you certianly are 'l33t' with that name, and by the way not all of us here are kiddies, certainly not you. :) I don't think you quite understand the server market too well. If you did, you would understand the real reason why AMD isn't in the high-end server market yet - SMP. Any system guaranteed by an OEM to run stable (Micron, Gateway, etc) should be considered a fair system - otherwise large OEMs would not carry such a product.
 
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This is a tough one. I don't think it's fair to blame the originator of the thread. The answer is probably best approached statistically. And if there are numerical indicators that more motherboards with non-Intel chipsets are a problem, then perhaps there are as many reasons as there are players.

1. I've read posts that VIA hasn't been as forthcoming with information as Intel on their chipsets.
2. Perhaps MSI's management have taken the AMD side more seriously and made greater effort to connect with VIA and their engineering. Clearly, if MSI could succeed with VIA chipsets, then it's not VIA's hardware.
3. More programmers are experienced with Intel cpu's, particularly Microsoft's programmers.
4. More OEM's are experienced with Intel cpu's.
5. More engineers on the staffs of motherboard manufacturers' designer staffs know Intel.
6. More BIOS sources, user experience, troubleshooters, etc.
This runs up and down the scale of parties involved.

The point is, we've seen a rapid growth of AMD's fortunes and rapid growth has pain.
I for one cheer greater options in the marketplace. AMD has fought a good fight, but they can't do it all. I hope ASUS recognizes their mistakes and rapidly, responsibly respond to their customer base.
Take note ASUS, MSI is in this for real, and they will clean you plate.
 
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<< AMD might be fine for you kids to play with all day, but in the real world stability is the most important aspect of a system and AMD just can't provide that. Ever notice how AMD has no server products? How no companies use AMD products? Makes ya wonder, huh? You kids can keep AMD...they just aren't worth the problems. >>



Hmm, funny post, obviously you do not have a clue...

I spend my days designing new computer systems and servers, what is your profession??

I have designed several servers running AMD CPU's, and they are ALL stable.

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources
 
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There are only two things that can be at fault here:

1) The user, meaning either they havent' applied all the patches and updates, or just don't know what's going on.

2) The motherboard is faulty, maybe you got a mobo from a bad batch??


<< It's just plain rude to accuse me of incompetence. Hilariously enough, without even trying to solve the problem yourself. >>


You are too cocky, so maybe you do know a thing or two about computers, that doesn't mean you don't make mistakes. Even the elitest computer guru messes up now and then.
 
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OneEng

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My Duron 600@800 works without a flaw on my ASUS A7V and has for about the last 4 months!

Sorry to hear you have had such trials and tribulations.
 
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JackHawksmoor

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Good grief Mule. I'm cocky for thinking it's rude to insult my competance? For the 90th time, this is NOT &quot;user error&quot;.

Geez, can't anyone just accept that this thing dosen't work right? Most business DO NOT use AMD, and this is why :(
 
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holdencommodore

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VIA have come a LONG way from the days of the MVP3 chipsets (most of those are pretty good too). The KT-133's are great chipsets, better then the SIS stuff. If you want someone to blame, then blame the motherboard manufacturer. If it was to do with the VIA chipset, this problem would be repeated in other boards too.
Try a MSI K7T Pro2-A board.
This problem has nothing to do with AMD processors. I will never 'Stick with Intel'.
I have always had AMD based system and I always will...
 
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Blaming it on AMD and VIA who both should not be held responsible for yours troubles, way to go man. This is very clear, its either your fault, or Asus' fault. None of AMD/VIA's business.
 
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<< I've spent months trying to get my 1Ghz Thunderbird + Asus A7V to work right, all the time. It dosen't, and I'm sick of messing with it. >>



If the board as been working for months then It's definately User ERROR.

If i had an unstable board on my hands,You can be sure that i would RMA it under a week of playing with it &amp; could not get it to work.
 
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