AMD, Intel, say hello to BLX

Duvie

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Until I see results showing it is better...who cares!!! No numbers? dont waste my time....


Kinda like the cyrix claims that come out every few years...

Nobodies first foray into cpus is going to do better then Intels or AMDs....

remember the claims of the cell processors?

1 thing the chinese do not do...

1) respect international law on copyright and patent infringement. Likely have plenty of "borrowed" technology here

 

NanoStuff

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It's not better, it's much slower in fact. Not everybody wants better, they want good enough and cheap :)
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's not better, it's much slower in fact. Not everybody wants better, they want good enough and cheap :)



Well how much worse? I dont want to like step back 5 years in performance. Otherwis ethey will need to sell them for like 30-40 bucks...
 

NanoStuff

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http://jcst.ict.ac.cn/paper/hww_071.pdf

It's comparable to a P4 1.4, but if the claims of 3-8W power consumption are true it could make for a fine cheap laptop processor. Also keep in mind that at this point they are playing catch up. Their performance numbers have been quickly closing in on Intel/AMD since 2002. In another 4 years they could very well be a performance market alternative.
 

Duvie

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1.4ghz P4s were pathetic and had issues playing somme video, etc. I can only imagine these for school laptops...basically portable word processors....

Hopefully they get better. i would love to see another 1 to 2 chip makers get into the mix. More competition, more innovation...
 

orion23

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1 thing the chinese do not do...

1) respect international law on copyright and patent infringement. Likely have plenty of "borrowed" technology here

It's our fault and Europe's as well for not punishing the chinese when it comes to this VERY BIG PROBLEM!

 

NanoStuff

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Originally posted by: orion23
1 thing the chinese do not do...

1) respect international law on copyright and patent infringement. Likely have plenty of "borrowed" technology here

It's our fault and Europe's as well for not punishing the chinese when it comes to this VERY BIG PROBLEM!
It's not easy punishing a country that can break the foundation of your economy.
 

orion23

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Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: orion23
1 thing the chinese do not do...

1) respect international law on copyright and patent infringement. Likely have plenty of "borrowed" technology here

It's our fault and Europe's as well for not punishing the chinese when it comes to this VERY BIG PROBLEM!
It's not easy punishing a country that can break the foundation of your economy.

Yeah, but we have created a monster......Did you hear about the missile to satellite test last friday? They already have a monster army build up and we continue to support their growth.....Scary....

 

BassBomb

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Originally posted by: Duvie
1.4ghz P4s were pathetic and had issues playing somme video, etc. I can only imagine these for school laptops...basically portable word processors....

Hopefully they get better. i would love to see another 1 to 2 chip makers get into the mix. More competition, more innovation...

I have a P4 1.4 ghz at work. It starts to ramp up into 6000+ RPM fan when doing anything flash related.

Opening Outlook and IE at same time also does same thing. It is really a horrendous piece of crap that I cannot stand. It is actually like stepping back 3 PC's to the one I had back in 2001
 

NanoStuff

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Originally posted by: orion23
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: orion23
1 thing the chinese do not do...

1) respect international law on copyright and patent infringement. Likely have plenty of "borrowed" technology here

It's our fault and Europe's as well for not punishing the chinese when it comes to this VERY BIG PROBLEM!
It's not easy punishing a country that can break the foundation of your economy.

Yeah, but we have created a monster......Did you hear about the missile to satellite test last friday? They already have a monster army build up and we continue to support their growth.....Scary....
It's only scary because it's not us doing it, human paranoia. If your own country blew up their own satellite you wouldn't think twice. We continue to support their growth because we have no good reason not to. This millenium is certainly not the time to distance ourselves from our neighbours. China's economic explosion can be the best thing that's ever happened to the industrial world. They blew up one of their own satellites, so what, it's their satellite. The world would be a much better place if we followed in China's footsteps and only blew up what's ours.
 

Stumps

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Originally posted by: thilan29
The P4 1.4 with RDRAM I had was not so bad.:)

My old AMD T-bird 1.4 with PC133 would have gave that setup a thrashing....and cost less than half the price at the time.
 

DrMrLordX

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Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: thilan29
The P4 1.4 with RDRAM I had was not so bad.:)

My old AMD T-bird 1.4 with PC133 would have gave that setup a thrashing....and cost less than half the price at the time.

It would probably thrash all of BLX's processors to date as well, not that that's much of an accomplishment.
 

Stumps

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Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: thilan29
The P4 1.4 with RDRAM I had was not so bad.:)

My old AMD T-bird 1.4 with PC133 would have gave that setup a thrashing....and cost less than half the price at the time.

It would probably thrash all of BLX's processors to date as well, not that that's much of an accomplishment.

LOL...yes the T-bird 1.4ghz was a beast for it's time...I wish I still had my 1.4/KT7A-RAID setup....it was a nice sweet rig.
 

sonoran

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>>is not based on the x86 instruction set

That right there means they have one hell of an uphill battle, at least in established markets.
 

dmens

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Originally posted by: NanoStuff
http://jcst.ict.ac.cn/paper/hww_071.pdf

It's comparable to a P4 1.4, but if the claims of 3-8W power consumption are true it could make for a fine cheap laptop processor. Also keep in mind that at this point they are playing catch up. Their performance numbers have been quickly closing in on Intel/AMD since 2002. In another 4 years they could very well be a performance market alternative.

reading that paper, the whole chip is synthesized, which explains their low clock. sorry to say, with those methods, they will never come close to the required performance even for standard home users... synthesized designs trade design ease with a much lower performance ceiling.
 

nyker96

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this project sounds like a government sponsored effort not private enterprise. So I wonder if they are developing this because of economic reason perhaps AMD/intel is charging too much?
 

BassBomb

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Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: thilan29
The P4 1.4 with RDRAM I had was not so bad.:)

My old AMD T-bird 1.4 with PC133 would have gave that setup a thrashing....and cost less than half the price at the time.

It would probably thrash all of BLX's processors to date as well, not that that's much of an accomplishment.

LOL...yes the T-bird 1.4ghz was a beast for it's time...I wish I still had my 1.4/KT7A-RAID setup....it was a nice sweet rig.


YEYEYEYE Thats the pc i was refering to when I said my one back in 2001!! Too bad it sits in the basement without anyone to love :(
 

StopSign

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"According to developers, official tests showed that the Chinese chip can rival Intel Pentium 4 processor in performance and it was superior to the early series of the Pentium IV CPUs, but the Chinese CPU could be produced at a much lower cost."

Thanks but no thanks!
 

yuchai

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From wikipedia entry:

The primary purpose of the chip is to run localized Chinese versions of Linux, with emphasis on Chinese character support.

It's obviously designed to cater to a specific audience that is very different from the typical ATer. If you're interested in performing basic e-mailing/web surfing/office tasks in a Chinese Linux environment, this chip may have the edge with its low price point and power consumption.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: yuchai
From wikipedia entry:

The primary purpose of the chip is to run localized Chinese versions of Linux, with emphasis on Chinese character support.

It's obviously designed to cater to a specific audience that is very different from the typical ATer. If you're interested in performing basic e-mailing/web surfing/office tasks in a Chinese Linux environment, this chip may have the edge with its low price point and power consumption.

^ in a nutshell :)

This chip won't excite most AT'ers .. but hey, you gotta admit, if they can make these things for just a few $ US, they will save big vs. buying from Intel/AMD.