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AMD FX-series CPUs, fire sale when Ryzen hits?

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The only reason why I see them slightly holding their value is that the socket has been around for so long that they know there's a ton of people that can use the CPU for a good upgrade. That and the CPU dies aren't that cheap for how big they are.
 
whm1974 said:
Indeed. If Larry want to go that low, then he should get a Pentium 4560 instead. Otherwise...
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Just did last night. Two more of them. Along with some BIostar B150 boards that were a Hot Deal. Hopefully they will take KBL CPUs with a BIOS flash. (Not 100% sure yet.)
 
I know some folks who do work with some really old systems. One was using a 3800+. He was impressed when I dropped a 6000+ in for him. They have very little money to buy any sort of computer system, but they do use the computer for things where more cores would help out a lot.

For these folks, an FX-6300 or 8320 system would be like a Hellcat.

Until lower end RyZen chips come out...
 
jihe said:
You seriously have to pay me to use an FX.
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This line of thinking is ridiculous. Unless you're running single core cinebench all day, I can't see how an FX (at least 6 core) isn't exactly like an i5/i7 in day to day tasks. At my last job I used an i7 3770 and did rendering, compiling, multimedia editing, and web browsing. I felt ZERO difference in responsiveness from my work desktop to my home desktop (FX-8350). The only time I could tell a difference is when I would be encoding videos and browsing at the same time. Encoding times seemed faster with the i7 but responsiveness was choppy. The FX was more responsive. User responsiveness is the most important metric for how "fast" a computer is. Having 6-8 threads available at all times makes for an immediate, albeit potentially slower response.

iPhones sure seems to feel a LOT faster than flagship Android phones despite lackluster hardware because the threading for UI is always the top priority. Having many cores available does that in Windows.
 
Larry, Just wait another month and you'll be able to grab a bunch of el cheapo Ryzen R3 4c/8t cpu's that will run circles around all FX CPU's. Why pay more in electricity to run old dinosaur fossil 8c/8t FX CPU's when Next gen is better in every way including electric power savings.
 
If you already had an AM3 system, and wanted a cheap upgrade then it might make sense. But not if you were building from scratch.
 
whm1974 said:
That's why you should have gotten some B250 boards instead.
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Uhm, at 3x the cost? No thanks.

Edit: Got in on a Hot Deal for some B150 boards for $27 ea. Granted, they are basically H110-design boards with an updated B150 chipset (PCI-E 3.0). No HDMI, no M.2.
 
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whm1974 said:
Yes and switch over to Windows 10 or Linux/BSD.
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It's mind boggling to me that the "tech nerd" has promoted Windows 7 so hard. You'd think tech savvy users would easily adapt to new OS. I was able to find a way that I enjoyed navigating both 8 and 10. The improvements under the hood are more than worth it.

I like Linux too but I still don't know if it's something a mainstream normal person can 100% get away with. My dad has done well with just a bae Ubuntu installation though and hasn't needed much else.
 
DrMrLordX said:
For anyone buying FX now, there is the additional onus of DDR3 being more expensive now than it was maybe six months ago. So while FX and AM3+ mobo prices will be down, RAM prices will be up. Kind of sad really.

It just makes the 4560 look more appealing in comparison, unless you know for a fact that you want 8t
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FX has memory controller that supports those funky high-density modules from ebay/other such sources. That RAM seems to be the cheapest deal right now plus obviously good capacities.
Even better, you can buy ECC modules discarded from servers, again at discount prices (they just must not be registered). For use of ECC memory, your motherboards needs to have support which only Asus ones usually have AFAIK.

In this regard, AM3+ platform (or AM3 too, but K10 lacks important instructions) is actually quite advantageous.
 
tential said:
It's mind boggling to me that the "tech nerd" has promoted Windows 7 so hard. You'd think tech savvy users would easily adapt to new OS. I was able to find a way that I enjoyed navigating both 8 and 10. The improvements under the hood are more than worth it.

I like Linux too but I still don't know if it's something a mainstream normal person can 100% get away with. My dad has done well with just a bae Ubuntu installation though and hasn't needed much else.
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Well back when I used Windows 8, I hated the Metro UI so I installed Classic Shell to make it useable. Now I don't use Windows at, just Linux.
 
tential said:
It's mind boggling to me that the "tech nerd" has promoted Windows 7 so hard. You'd think tech savvy users would easily adapt to new OS. I was able to find a way that I enjoyed navigating both 8 and 10. The improvements under the hood are more than worth it.

I like Linux too but I still don't know if it's something a mainstream normal person can 100% get away with. My dad has done well with just a bae Ubuntu installation though and hasn't needed much else.
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I think alot of the issues with win10 are not the UI or ease of use but the amount of spyware ms has cooked into it to datamine the hell out of you.
 
Scholzpdx said:
This line of thinking is ridiculous. Unless you're running single core cinebench all day, I can't see how an FX (at least 6 core) isn't exactly like an i5/i7 in day to day tasks. At my last job I used an i7 3770 and did rendering, compiling, multimedia editing, and web browsing. I felt ZERO difference in responsiveness from my work desktop to my home desktop (FX-8350). The only time I could tell a difference is when I would be encoding videos and browsing at the same time. Encoding times seemed faster with the i7 but responsiveness was choppy. The FX was more responsive. User responsiveness is the most important metric for how "fast" a computer is. Having 6-8 threads available at all times makes for an immediate, albeit potentially slower response.

iPhones sure seems to feel a LOT faster than flagship Android phones despite lackluster hardware because the threading for UI is always the top priority. Having many cores available does that in Windows.
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It's a power hog and runs hot.
 
jihe said:
It's a power hog and runs hot.
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Runs hot? Unless you're running all 8 cores 100% and an overclock, the CPU is only hitting 45c at 4.2Ghz under a $20 TX-3. Power hog? If a 30w increase in power consumption a few hours a day is going to affect anything, you really should be using a laptop. Even with a super cheap TX-3 it keeps the CPU cold, doesn't ever have to spin up unless I've got it 4.5Ghz+, and is quiet. I don't even know why I'm even bothering.

For those who can get an FX8xxx and a motherboard for $120 they will likely be limited by their GPU budget in gaming, which would dramatically lower the power consumption of the CPU as it'd be waiting on the GPU to catch up. Day to day productivity is leaps and bounds what you could get out of a Pentium at that cost.

But who cares... People who make ridiculous statements like this already have their mind made up.
 
Scholzpdx said:
Runs hot? Unless you're running all 8 cores 100% and an overclock, the CPU is only hitting 45c at 4.2Ghz under a $20 TX-3. Power hog? If a 30w increase in power consumption a few hours a day is going to affect anything, you really should be using a laptop. Even with a super cheap TX-3 it keeps the CPU cold, doesn't ever have to spin up unless I've got it 4.5Ghz+, and is quiet. I don't even know why I'm even bothering.

For those who can get an FX8xxx and a motherboard for $120 they will likely be limited by their GPU budget in gaming, which would dramatically lower the power consumption of the CPU as it'd be waiting on the GPU to catch up. Day to day productivity is leaps and bounds what you could get out of a Pentium at that cost.

But who cares... People who make ridiculous statements like this already have their mind made up.
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Jan Olšan said:
FX has memory controller that supports those funky high-density modules from ebay/other such sources. That RAM seems to be the cheapest deal right now plus obviously good capacities.
Even better, you can buy ECC modules discarded from servers, again at discount prices (they just must not be registered). For use of ECC memory, your motherboards needs to have support which only Asus ones usually have AFAIK.

In this regard, AM3+ platform (or AM3 too, but K10 lacks important instructions) is actually quite advantageous.
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I'm not fond of those high-density eBay modules. ECC comes at a performance penalty (albiet a small one).
 
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