AMD clock and 64 bit issues?

wacki

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Someone told me AMD has flaws with clock issues and 64-bit processing that they refuse to fix. I've had zero problems with AMD chips and I was wondering what exactly is he talking about.
 

zephyrprime

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Never heard of it. There was some news about a prob with floating point in Opterons recently but that's unrelated.
 

Brunnis

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Sounds like some of the crap you hear uneducated fanboy kids come up with now and then. It seems as if people actually make up little stories about AMD's "inferior" chips and try to spread them among their friends and/or internet... I guess this problem isn't just limited to fanboys in the CPU world, though.

Now, there might of course be some truth behind this, but I kind of doubt it.
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: Brunnis
Sounds like some of the crap you hear uneducated fanboy kids come up with now and then. It seems as if people actually make up little stories about AMD's "inferior" chips and try to spread them among their friends and/or internet... I guess this problem isn't just limited to fanboys in the CPU world, though.

Now, there might of course be some truth behind this, but I kind of doubt it.

The chip (as do all chips) has documented bugs but your average end user won't ever have a problem with it. Not sure if what you've been told was one of the listed bugs.
 

BrownTown

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they are likely refering to the 3000 some odd opertons that were shown to have a possibility to fail under certain highly unlikely conditions, this should nto be a major concern to any AMD buyer at present.
 

wacki

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Originally posted by: Brunnis
Sounds like some of the crap you hear uneducated fanboy kids come up with now and then. It seems as if people actually make up little stories about AMD's "inferior" chips and try to spread them among their friends and/or internet... I guess this problem isn't just limited to fanboys in the CPU world, though.

Now, there might of course be some truth behind this, but I kind of doubt it.


He's a network admin by trade. Not your average fanboy.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
they are likely refering to the 3000 some odd opertons that were shown to have a possibility to fail under certain highly unlikely conditions, this should nto be a major concern to any AMD buyer at present.


Except it had nothing to do with 64bit processing....


I am sure he is talking about the BS that is constantly spread by the Intel fanboys, and lame O's that work at most of the electronic stores....
 

dmens

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LOL, nice kneejerk reactions. "EVIL INTEL FANBOIS!!!" :Q

Maybe the OP can actually elaborate so y'all can actually look up the opteron errata (if you can), because last I checked, there were 8 items related to 64-bit extensions on the latest step.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: dmens
LOL, nice kneejerk reactions. "EVIL INTEL FANBOIS!!!" :Q

Maybe the OP can actually elaborate so y'all can actually look up the opteron errata (if you can), because last I checked, there were 8 items related to 64-bit extensions on the latest step.



Except as I said the latest opteron recall had nothing to do with 64bit extensions....Other errata and bugs may be related to what he said but are likely no different then many bugs that plague Intel cpus and chipset...As mentioned above many of these are not concerns for most common users....

I can say I talk to AMD fanboys and iNtel fanboys and I can say Intel fanboys overwhemingly more always brought up issues...whether it be stability (mike dell ring a bell??), crappy chipsets, bugs, overheating (athlon days)....

Dmens would know about Evil Intel!!!

Not a knee jerk when I have seen it for years on this forum....often most of these threads are often traced back to that or an extremely uneducated salesman....
 

BrownTown

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clearly this issue is not one based in reality, its really not even worth arguing over, we all know that A64 processors work just fine, maybe there is some strange errata which could possibly manifest itself in some theoretical program, but it is no concern of hte average user.
 

dmens

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Now it's "INTEL HAS BUGS TOO AND AMD'S BUGS DON'T AFFECT COMMON USERS", hahaha! Doesn't change the fact the op statement "Someone told me AMD has flaws with ... 64-bit processing that they refuse to fix" is valid. Regardless, it is hilarious how the first reactions have been tinfoil-hat screeches about "evil intel fanboys spreading evil rumors". LOL. I've had my fun for the day, later.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: dmens
Now it's "INTEL HAS BUGS TOO AND AMD'S BUGS DON'T AFFECT COMMON USERS", hahaha! Doesn't change the fact the op statement "Someone told me AMD has flaws with ... 64-bit processing that they refuse to fix" is valid. Regardless, it is hilarious how the first reactions have been tinfoil-hat screeches about "evil intel fanboys spreading evil rumors". LOL. I've had my fun for the day, later.



This is why you offer so little to this board!!!!

Reading and comprehension is still an issue with you....Dont stir up crap in this thread...It is clear the OP needs to supply some more info

"tinfoil-hat"....Did you learn a new catch phrase??? LOL...Now I have had my fun....
 

Amaroque

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: dmens
Now it's "INTEL HAS BUGS TOO AND AMD'S BUGS DON'T AFFECT COMMON USERS", hahaha! Doesn't change the fact the op statement "Someone told me AMD has flaws with ... 64-bit processing that they refuse to fix" is valid. Regardless, it is hilarious how the first reactions have been tinfoil-hat screeches about "evil intel fanboys spreading evil rumors". LOL. I've had my fun for the day, later.



This is why you offer so little to this board!!!!

Reading and comprehension is still an issue with you....Dont stir up crap in this thread...It is clear the OP needs to supply some more info

"tinfoil-hat"....Did you learn a new catch phrase??? LOL...Now I have had my fun....

It's pretty funny you say this crap to Duvie, and attack his post. Duvie has been a staunch Intel supporter for years. Only recently has he reluctantly used AMD, due to the dismal P4 performance.

I don't doubt for a second that Duvie would switch to Intel, even if performance was "just" equal.
 

dmens

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HAHA, who cares what he buys, his knee-jerk reaction and the comparison between intel vs amd fanboys (one is better?!?) was still hilarious.

Guess he could use a tinfoil hat to keep the evil intel viral marketing mindrays away, LOL!!!! :D
 

Stumps

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you know what makes me laugh so hard at pathetic fanboys, at the end of the day once you put the cover on the PC...whats the real difference in the computer...ummm absolutly nothing...they all run the same software ,do the same things and eat up electricity like it's going out of fashion.

I chose not to become a fanboy..I prefer the best of both words...I own both AMD's and Intel.....and a lonely Cyrix MII:D
 

Brunnis

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Originally posted by: dmens
LOL, nice kneejerk reactions. "EVIL INTEL FANBOIS!!!" :Q

Maybe the OP can actually elaborate so y'all can actually look up the opteron errata (if you can), because last I checked, there were 8 items related to 64-bit extensions on the latest step.
What I meant was that these errors usually get blown out of proportion by the fanboys. It happens on "both sides", but the Intel guys are usually quite eager to make sure that people understand how unstable AMD CPUs are. I've seen it so many times. The only one really making a fool out of himself in this thread is you.

Originally posted by: wacki
He's a network admin by trade. Not your average fanboy.
I've seen more crap from so called "professionals" than what I've seen from newbies. The biggest problem is that most people believe what the "professionals" say...

Anyway, I didn't mean to say that your friend was the one that originally came up with this. It just sounded like one of these rumors that usually fly around the net on forums and stuff like that. Maybe he got it from someone else?

dmens is right on one account, though. You really need to ask him more specifically what he meant.
 

wacki

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Originally posted by: Duvie
It is clear the OP needs to supply some more info

I sent him a request for links/clarification. I will post his response here.

 

Keysplayr

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Guys, could this be what the OP was referring to?

There is a problem, and AMD is addressing it and offering to replace any user having purchased a CPU with this problem.

So:

Problem? = yes
Earthshattering? = no
AMD moving to make it right? = yes
So, there really is no problem.

/thread
 

Madwand1

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Originally posted by: wacki
He's a network admin by trade. Not your average fanboy.

Some network admins are actually idiots who spend much of their energy belittling and restricting users, and protecting their little fiefdom. I got this straight from the Register. I know what I'm talking about. :)

Seriously, some are. Some of course are not at all.

A good test for technical know-how, intellectual honesty, etc., is how much they're willing to back up their claims with evidence. If they say "trust me, I know", you should do the opposite.