Last month wccftech (yeah...) reported this:Interesting. OEMs usually reserve the high-end NV mGPUs for Intel chips.
...Last month wccftech (yeah...) reported this:
"Because of the PCIe bottleneck on Renoir, you could only get up to an RTX 2060 with an AMD CPU. Once the AMD 5000 series (Cezzane-H) lands, however, this is going to change with NVIDIA high-end GPUs freely available equally on AMD and Intel parts (TigerLake H)."I went for a late-night sitting with Jensen and have a pretty big update for our readers. Great news: NVIDIA's RTX 3000 mobility series is going to be landing as soon as January 2021 and the company is finally moving forward with supporting AMD mobility CPUs for its high-end GPUs. There are a...wccftech.com
Yeah, the PCIe stuff is nonsense, though it would be really interesting to know who exactly was limiting those Nvidia models. We always talked about the OEM/ODM doing that, this report while technically false suggests it's Nvidia's doing....
Cezanne is only PCIe 3.0x8 on FP6 as well. It's an FP6 limitation, it won't change until FP7.
It had nothing to do with that, only manufacturer's lack of faith in AMD (for good reason - AMD's mobile game up until recently was horrid).
But yeah, this year will be good for AMD devices.
I actually like what AV1 brings, but unfortunately we can't call anything with support for it future proof.i wonder how intel Xe will compare to cezanne vega.
obviously you're not gaming for shit on either one
i'm disappointed that cezanne won't be future proof with lack of AV1 hardware decoding
4k60 av1 videos are brutal on the cpu.
i'm leaning toward intel now because of av1 support
That is a bit of a bummer, but perhaps AMD will do what they did with VP9, and decode using shaders. It's not as efficient as dedicated hardware, but still better then using the CPU.i'm disappointed that cezanne won't be future proof with lack of AV1 hardware decoding
For the sake of mobile use and battery consumption it is a bother certainly, but for basic decoding ability 8 bpc content is already easy with Zen1 8C CPU's up to 4K24 at least with dav1d, VideoLAN's speedy AV1 decoder.i'm disappointed that cezanne won't be future proof with lack of AV1 hardware decoding
It is, I mean it really is where encoding is concerned.AV1 isn't that different from VP9 after all.
Qualcomm more so than Apple.The reason is Qualcomm and Apple. Neither are choosing to support AV1 for some reason despite one of them technically having support in hardware. With smartphone's not supporting the standard, adoption is going to be hard.
For the sake of mobile use and battery consumption it is a bother certainly, but for basic decoding ability 8 bpc content is already easy with Zen1 8C CPU's up to 4K24 at least with dav1d, VideoLAN's speedy AV1 decoder.
Just buy her a laptop.even my old i7-6700hq plays AV1 4k24 no problem though, but with 50% cpu load.
for me, the bar needs to be 4k60 AV1, now that youtube and netflix are pushing for av1.
I'm itching to build a pc for my mom, who uses an ancient athlon64 x4.
She uses the pc 12 hours a day, and the pc idles at 77 watts.
we pay 22 cents/kwh, so that amounts to wasting >$75 per year
in contrast, a Renoir pc idles at 7 watts. So that's a huge savings.
I need a cpu soon to offset electricity cost.
The Van Gogh APU will have AV1 HW decode in 2021, but I've no idea if that is anything but a custom SoC for something like MS Surface devices.If i wait 2 years for rembrandt, I will have flushed $150+ down the toilet in electricity cost.
If you are already running a browser chances are there are a multitude of things like JS scripts already fighting to do the nasty on your system perf/watt, regardless of what is performing the video decoding compute.Perf/Watt won't be great on CPU and even a GPU Hybrid is a half baked solution.
Those PR renders are ever only ever... haphazardly accurate... not just how they're filled in, but even to the point that the overall shape of the die is wrong. For example, the real Renoir die is taller than the render, so even though 10% sounds reasonable, it's not something I would ever advise extrapolating from these renders. That said, the Cezanne render looks significantly more grounded in reality than the Renoir render. What the heck is up with those boxes that comprise the Zen 2 cores? So that's at least a step in the right direction even though the Cezanne render adds these weird overlapping boxes inside each L3 area.AMD Ryzen 5000 “Cezanne” We have received a picture of an upcoming Cezanne APU from AMD. The company is expected to unveil its 5000 series processors based on this design next week. Sadly, no further information was provided by the source. AMD Cezanne APU has the same number of compute cores and...videocardz.com
Videocardz has what looks like a die render of Cezanne. Their estimate is that Cezanne is 10% bigger than Renoir.