evolucion8
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I posted this on another thread from other forum, I will post it here, it worked for me when I had issues enabling the HD 6900 specific features, other fix would be a format.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{4 9A6BE31-41D0-4C72-9AC3-AE0D0C6CF200}\0000 (The last string varies my setup and modified the following entries.)
ASE_NA=0 to ASE_NA=1 <<That allows you to enable Super Sampling on the Adaptive Anti Aliasing option.
EnableUlps=1 to EnableUlps=0 <This allow you to enable Ultra Low Power State on Crossfire configuration cards which basically turns off the second video card when not in use.
EnableUlps_NA=1 to EnableUlps=0 <The same as previously but allows you to turn them on and off on the CCC.
EQAA_NA=1 to EQAA_NA=0 <<Allows you to enable Enhanced Quality Anti Aliasing which is a similar technique used on nVidia's CSAA.
MLF_NA=1 to MLF_NA=0 <<Enables Morphologic Anti Aliasing on the Anti Aliasing tab
MosquitoNoiseRemoval=0 to 1 <<This is not related to games but video, allows you to reduce the mosquito noise removal on highly compressed video formats.
SurfaceFormatReplacements_NA=1 to SurfaceFormatReplacements=0 <<Allows you to enable or disable Surface Format Replacement. In some games, high HDR Floating Point based calculations are used, but in some scenarios using a lower 16-Bit INT or 10-Bit (10:10:10:2) HDR format will give you more performance without image quality loss.
TQF_NA=1 to TQF_NA=0 <<Allows you to enable and disable High Texture Quality on the Catalyst A.I.
The common misconception here is that the High Texture Quality option will disable Catalyst A.I and that's not correct. The High Texture Quality option will simply disable any texture filtering quality optimization but Crossfire and other optimizations that aren't related to image quality will run, which is a plus since disabling Catalyst A.I. altogether will also disable Crossfire.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{4 9A6BE31-41D0-4C72-9AC3-AE0D0C6CF200}\0000 (The last string varies my setup and modified the following entries.)
ASE_NA=0 to ASE_NA=1 <<That allows you to enable Super Sampling on the Adaptive Anti Aliasing option.
EnableUlps=1 to EnableUlps=0 <This allow you to enable Ultra Low Power State on Crossfire configuration cards which basically turns off the second video card when not in use.
EnableUlps_NA=1 to EnableUlps=0 <The same as previously but allows you to turn them on and off on the CCC.
EQAA_NA=1 to EQAA_NA=0 <<Allows you to enable Enhanced Quality Anti Aliasing which is a similar technique used on nVidia's CSAA.
MLF_NA=1 to MLF_NA=0 <<Enables Morphologic Anti Aliasing on the Anti Aliasing tab
MosquitoNoiseRemoval=0 to 1 <<This is not related to games but video, allows you to reduce the mosquito noise removal on highly compressed video formats.
SurfaceFormatReplacements_NA=1 to SurfaceFormatReplacements=0 <<Allows you to enable or disable Surface Format Replacement. In some games, high HDR Floating Point based calculations are used, but in some scenarios using a lower 16-Bit INT or 10-Bit (10:10:10:2) HDR format will give you more performance without image quality loss.
TQF_NA=1 to TQF_NA=0 <<Allows you to enable and disable High Texture Quality on the Catalyst A.I.
The common misconception here is that the High Texture Quality option will disable Catalyst A.I and that's not correct. The High Texture Quality option will simply disable any texture filtering quality optimization but Crossfire and other optimizations that aren't related to image quality will run, which is a plus since disabling Catalyst A.I. altogether will also disable Crossfire.
Qbah
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Qbah
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MLAA works great for me on my HD5850 with 11.1a hotfix :thumbsup: Apparently official support will come with 11.2s
KingFatty
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Confirmed, hotfix 11.1a enables the morphological filtering (morphological anti-aliasing (MLAA)) checkbox in catalyst control center 2, by simply installing the drivers, without having to mess around with any files or registry entries.
But something else happened - it's too good to be true and I think maybe I'm missing something and request independent testing if any of you have Starcraft 2 and a 5000 series card? Or any Radeon HD card actually, since I think all of them had a reputation for struggling with AA in Starcraft 2?
The more GPU-intensive multi-sampling anti-aliasing (MSAA) looks good and does not negatively affect the in-game text at all, unlike MLAA that slightly massages the text in an odd way. But before I installed hotfix 11.1a, I tried the MSAA setting at x2 and x4 and saw that my FPS dropped below that of using only MLAA (no MSAA). So prior to hotfix 11.1a, I "settled" for MLAA because it kept my FPS high and looked ok in starcraft 2. Not as good as MSAAx4, but worth it even though text was harder to read in-game.
But after installing hotfix 11.1a, I was shocked to see there wasn't much difference in FPS whether I used MSAAx2, or MSAAx4?!
My CPU is not overclocked at the moment, so I thought maybe I'm bottlenecking my FPS by using a low setting on my CPU. But strangely, the FPS are *WORSE* when I use MLAA all by itself, even worse than when using MSAAx4? I never tried MLAA in combination with MSAA. But MLAA should give better FPS than MSAAx4, as I had verified under the plain 11.1 drivers.
This good performance in MSAAx4 makes no sense and is opposite to my testing experience with the regular 11.1 drivers. Would you guys mind running starcraft under your existing drivers (not the hotfix) and see how MLAA vs MSAA affects your FPS?
I am curious if you turn on MSAAx4 and get crappy performance? I've been using the single-player challenge for zerg with infestors and roaches (level three of the zerg challenge, it gives an opportunity to see FPS when lots of units are on the screen). I check the FPS when you first start and have your infestors and roaches sitting there. Before I was down in the 60 FPS range I think, when MSAAx4 was turned on. But now it's over 100 FPS??? Then I burrow and run down into the main base with all the SCV and troops/tanks/collossi and it's still smooth with high fps, better than I could manage pre-11.1a hotfix.
This is crazy, part of me hopes that the hotfix drivers have incorporated something that "fixes" the poor anti-aliasing performance in Starcraft using AMD cards. I know they addressed one issue in starcraft (something about protoss grid properly displaying), so maybe that also unleashed the AMD beast in Starcraft 2 and allowed for good performance in MSAA? But I think I just made a mistake somehow.
My CPU has remained at stock setting when I was testing before and after the hotfix, so I don't understand how the change in performance could be linked to CPU performance.
FYI I'm running a stock AMD HD 5870 and a stock Phenom II X2 BE 3.2 GHZ unlocked to 4 cores (X4).
TLDR: Hotfix 11.1a "seems" to have extremely improved performance under Starcraft 2 with globally applied MSAAx4 in particular, performing even better than MLAA by itself (without any other AA turn3ed on)
Skurge
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http://www.rage3d.com/upload/appprofile/amd_catalyst_11.1_cap1.exe
11.1 CAP
Crossfire profile for another unreleased game. AMD seems to be on a role here. Hope this keeps up.
11.1 CAP
Crossfire profile for another unreleased game. AMD seems to be on a role here. Hope this keeps up.
MTDEW
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Thanks for the heads up.
According to this link you should install these profiles whether you have a single card or crossfire.
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33961798
imported_Lupine
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Here is Rage3D's CAP download page for your reference. Please note that we've temporarily pulled 11.1 CAP1 due to possible issues w/ it crashing some games. Hopefully we'll hear from AMD today w/ more information.
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this sucks.
not that its any easier to roll updates with nvidia
but why cant they make this easier. its friggin AWFUL to change driver versions these days. it shouldnt take a damn hour
MTDEW
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No doubt, I guess we've just gotten used to it over the years.this sucks.
not that its any easier to roll updates with nvidia
but why cant they make this easier. its friggin AWFUL to change driver versions these days. it shouldnt take a damn hour
But they should be able to create a decent un-install program for their own darn drivers!
And what is with AMD(ati) not having a decent default way of creating game specific profiles and settings in CCC without using a 3rd party program.
I would have been happier to see that in the new CCC.
And if we need the caps so bad, why doesn't the driver prompt you to download and install it when its finished, something like "Your new drivers were successfully installed , to get the most out of your hardware it is recommended to install the latest profiles optimizations for gaming, would you like to download/install them now?"
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WelshBloke
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this sucks.
not that its any easier to roll updates with nvidia
but why cant they make this easier. its friggin AWFUL to change driver versions these days. it shouldnt take a damn hour
I just installed it over my old drivers and everything worked fine.
You dont have to do everything they suggest. Its like when you phone any IT support dept, 'is your computer plugged in?', 'are all the leads properly seated', etc etc
WelshBloke
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I agree with everything except the bold. AMD do have an easy way to uninstall all their drivers/software.
MTDEW
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Hardly, i can set settings in CCC and then uninstall it using the Cat install Manager.
Then install a new CCC and its settings don't go to default, it loads the new CCC with the old settings suggesting that there are registry entries left behind.
WelshBloke
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That doesn't mean that there are any old drivers or software left behind though.
I'll take a look next time I uninstall them.
guru3d driver sweeper always finds crap
I had way more CTD's and wierdness, even oocaisonal BSOD's when I did a install over the top back in the 9.x days and I dont plan on going back to that
WelshBloke
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Thats fine. I'm just pointing out that's your choice and you don't have to do that, so its a bit weird to complain about having to do it.
I've had no problems that were caused by installing drivers over the last ones. (I've had lots of other problems but that's a different story)
MTDEW
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But still, if I was AMD or Nvidia i'd want my uninstall program to remove all remnants of the old software to insure a clean/trouble free install of new drivers.
It would really cut down on tech support.
Which is EXACTLY why the un-install procedure suggested above was created.
Heck i'd be embarrassed that 3rd party programs do a better job to ensure a clean un-install / re-install of my own software.
In all honesty it doesnt bother me all that much since i keep an image of my pc with everything but video and audio drivers installed, so i restore the image any time i want to be sure i have a CLEAN install. (takes about 7min to restore an image)
So i guess it comes down to how anal you are about your pc, some of us are more anal than others.
And i'm obviously more anal than the average user, i admit that.
Anyway, we're getting off topic.
So far i'm having zero issues with the 11.1a's on my 6950 Xfire setup.
I'm not using those 11.1 caps since i read about the issues.
I'm using the 10.12 CAP2.
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WelshBloke
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You sound like me about the noise of my PC. I really should look into water cooling one day. ^_^
I would guess you are in the minority. Lots of people seem to have driver issues these days on both sides from the provided uninstallers sucking so bad.
if not, driver sweeper wouldnt exist.
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The CAP has been rereleased and is now available from Rage3D.com
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33973354
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