AMD Athlon XP 1700+ Boxed CPU w/Soyo AS-A750 BareBone System for $199

[RedSox]

<< RedSox (thanks fo rthe reply)
I have DDR 2100 memory (512 MB)
and actually I have the XP 1800+ and I set the FJ1 jumper to 1 on , rest off.
any other thoughts you seem to know this well. >>




A couple more thoughts:

1)Make sure you're using DIMM Slot 1 (or 1 & 2 depending on your mem. config)
2)Try removing & re-seating the DIMM(s)
3)Change your BIOS to run the memory test instead of "instant" boot - if there are any problems with the memory, that should catch it.
4)As a last resort, flip to pg. 12 of your motherboard manual and follow the instructions for clearing the CMOS.

Hope somethin' works..keep me posted.

 

[truface]

<< mine boots (i messed with it initially, but in the end everything's at auto, and FJ1 was changed from 100MHz to 133MHz to get it to boot as an XP1700+)...but the stupid POS keeps locking up. The temperature is ~40C in the BIOS, and the system is at 36C. I'm on it right now, hoping it won't crash

All I have in this system is a 256mb pc2100 stick from crucial i ordered yesterday and received today (hopefully that's not the problem), a radeon ve (agp), and my linksys nic...had the same problem with my netgear nic, no matter what pci slot it was in...

Anyone else have random lockups and manage to fix it? i'm not gonna OC, so I left the stock HSF on and didn't put any arctic silver on.. >>

 

[MrEnigma]

I'm using the bios set to default for the speed, and have it set to 133 bus speed...running at 1700+. I did oc it to 1900+ but it was getting a bit toasty in windows. I think I see a driver for the ALi AGP for ATI Rage 128 (the card I have currently), and that could explain why it wont' boot with it in XP, but will in 98. The true test will come tomorrow when I get the new video card...to see if that works or not. I have 512mbs of mushkin in it, a DVD, CD-RW, two hard drives, floppy drive, NIC, SB Live Value, and then of course the keyboard/mouse....works great besides the ATI in the AGP slot.

 

[cgott42]

I set up the HD w/ Win 98 in another machine.
pulled it and turned it on in the this machine (XP1800+ w/ SOYO)
it crashes at different points.
In safe mode it seems to crash most often when loading graphical user interface (sterp by sterp confirmation on)
and (if it gets past there) after it asks me for display settings
AFter that crashes, I run it non-safe mode
it goes through scan disk, and then (again) crashes at different points)
often times I get "error loading NTKERN" (rem: this is win98)
I've tried it with bios -fail safe defaults loaded.

My M/B dip swistches and jumper settings are as follows:
RJ3: jumper connecting 1&2
JP5: jumper connecting 1&2
RJ1: all down (off)
VJ1: all down (off)
FJ1: 1 up(on) , rest off
RJ2: jumper connecting 1&2
JP1: jumper connecting 2&3

MB = SY-K7ADA v1.0
and I (after wasn't working other way) d/l latest bios from website, and flashed the bios

thanks
(boy is this a pain)
1 piece 512 MB DDR in DIMM1 slot


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<< RedSox (thanks fo rthe reply)
I have DDR 2100 memory (512 MB)
and actually I have the XP 1800+ and I set the FJ1 jumper to 1 on , rest off.
any other thoughts you seem to know this well. >>




A couple more thoughts:

1)Make sure you're using DIMM Slot 1 (or 1 & 2 depending on your mem. config)
2)Try removing & re-seating the DIMM(s)
3)Change your BIOS to run the memory test instead of "instant" boot - if there are any problems with the memory, that should catch it.
4)As a last resort, flip to pg. 12 of your motherboard manual and follow the instructions for clearing the CMOS.

Hope somethin' works..keep me posted. >>

 

[cgott42]

oh and VJ1 has 1&2 joined

 

[RedSox]

I could be wrong about this, but setting up the HD in another machine probably caused your trouble. Try going into Control Panel under the System tab. You'll need to remove all references to MB components, etc. under system and then run the "Add New Hardware" wizard thing. It's a royal PITA, but it's worked for me before. Just very tedious.

Unless your other machine was IDENTICAL with the same components you have now, I'd bet that's causing all the trouble.

 

[wasssup]

just tried installing the ATI TV Wonder VE in this system, and it keeps freezing when autoscanning channels (even with no cable connected)...this is with the latest WinXP drivers from ATI's site.

this is quite irritating...

 

[cgott42]

Actually I tried the load Win98 in other machine, only after many,many tries of trying to install win 98 or win2000 in this macine directly.
also I just cleared the CMOS.
same thing.




<< I could be wrong about this, but setting up the HD in another machine probably caused your trouble. Try going into Control Panel under the System tab. You'll need to remove all references to MB components, etc. under system and then run the "Add New Hardware" wizard thing. It's a royal PITA, but it's worked for me before. Just very tedious.

Unless your other machine was IDENTICAL with the same components you have now, I'd bet that's causing all the trouble. >>

 

[RedSox]

CGott,

I'm at a loss at this point. Unless your drive is about to give out (try a chkdsk for fun) or the memory is bad...I can't think of anything else at this point.

 

[ShizNitz]

OK, I think I'm losing my mind. I've never done this before (and it looks like I'm never going to do this again). I installed the processor and heatsink, no problems. I installed my 256MB DDR 2100 Crucial RAM in DIMM1, no problems. I installed my floppy drive cable and supplied power, no problems. I installed my Radeon 32MB DDR AGP card, no problems. However, when I turn the machine on, it beeps immediately, and then beeps at regular intervals (every 2-3 seconds).

The motherboard manual sucks. The only thing that it says is to reseat my memory or video card. These are definitely installed correctly. I've tried hooking up my hard drive and CD-ROM with no success. I have yet to see anything on my monitor and I'm at wit's end. Am I the only one that has had this problem?

Help me, please! I would appreciate any input as to what I should do (or be doing). Do I have a faulty motherboard?

 

[RedSox]

<< OK, I think I'm losing my mind. I've never done this before (and it looks like I'm never going to do this again). I installed the processor and heatsink, no problems. I installed my 256MB DDR 2100 Crucial RAM in DIMM1, no problems. I installed my floppy drive cable and supplied power, no problems. I installed my Radeon 32MB DDR AGP card, no problems. However, when I turn the machine on, it beeps immediately, and then beeps at regular intervals (every 2-3 seconds). >>



Relax, Shiz. Try this:

Open your case and locate the FJ1 jumper. Set 1 to on - leave the rest off.

My system did EXACTLY what you're describing. Set the jumper correctly and you're fine.

 

[ShizNitz]

<<

<< OK, I think I'm losing my mind. I've never done this before (and it looks like I'm never going to do this again). I installed the processor and heatsink, no problems. I installed my 256MB DDR 2100 Crucial RAM in DIMM1, no problems. I installed my floppy drive cable and supplied power, no problems. I installed my Radeon 32MB DDR AGP card, no problems. However, when I turn the machine on, it beeps immediately, and then beeps at regular intervals (every 2-3 seconds). >>



Relax, Shiz. Try this:

Open your case and locate the FJ1 jumper. Set 1 to on - leave the rest off.

My system did EXACTLY what you're describing. Set the jumper correctly and you're fine. >>



I'm going home over lunch and I'll try what you described. You've given me hope. I've been worrying about this all weekend long. Thanks a ton (especially if this works).

 

[RedSox]

Shiz:

Make sure your DIMM and video card are both seated properly. I had to put some serious pressure in the AGP slot to get my vid. card to take.

 

[ShizNitz]

<< Shiz:

Make sure your DIMM and video card are both seated properly. I had to put some serious pressure in the AGP slot to get my vid. card to take. >>



I'll make sure (I've seated, reseated, and rereseated both the video card and memory, though) that they're seated securely. I'm taking off now but I'll report my success/failure in about an hour. Thanks for the help.

 

[anazoal]

ShizNitz,

Do you have another video card you could try?

I had a bad experience building an Athlon system and using a Radeon vid card. In the end I got the system to work, but it was prone to crashing on large screen changes... In the end I returned the MB and vid card back to Newegg. New MB and Geforece card worked fine.

 

[ShizNitz]

<< ShizNitz,

Do you have another video card you could try?

I had a bad experience building an Athlon system and using a Radeon vid card. In the end I got the system to work, but it was prone to crashing on large screen changes... In the end I returned the MB and vid card back to Newegg. New MB and Geforece card worked fine. >>



Still no luck!!!! I tried setting the FJ1 jumper to on and the rest off, still the continuous beeps. I tried resetting my CMOS, still the continuous beeps. The video card is brand new and was purchased on Saturday, in order to try and fix this problem. I had a PCI video card that I was trying to use but I couldn't get anything but beeps when using it as well. Any other suggestions?

 

[MrEnigma]

Check your ram, make sure it's in the right slots. Something isn't detecting right, it should boot regardless of the jumpers in FJ1. I had mine continous beep like that, although that was when I didn't have the ram in it yet. Make sure your power connecters to the motherboard are pushed in all the way, and double check the processor/ram/cards and make sure they are seated correctly. I'm guessing the power connectors to the board came out just a bit causing the computer to beep telling you to check everything...good luck...I'm still fighting with it to get my AGP slot running right.

 

[RedSox]

Concur with Mr. Engima. Make sure you're using DIMM slot 1 or 1&2 - if you're using one stick of 2100 in slot 3, that might be it too.

 

[chynkboi]

you guys lucky u even got ur system...mines not here yet =*(****

 

[RedSox]

<< you guys lucky u even got ur system...mines not here yet =*(**** >>



I got lucky and saw the original post 5 minutes after it came up. There's a lot of people still waiting on the backordered processor.

 

[beekman]

awesome deal, just bought a boxed 1700 for 125 plus tax , should have waited for all this

 

[bigmouth]

I am out of my mind too. I installed the system, with the 1600+ substitution. It works very nicely the first day before I realized the temp is too high. with case closed, 52C Idle. Then I decided to reinstall the CPU fan with some thermal compound and all the nightmare started. I got continuous beep just like shiz described. My first sense told me that the memory is not seated well. However, I tried 40 times and can't get the system up. I couldn't believe a simple reinstallation of CPU fan can cause this. Then in a sudden, the beeping was gone. But the video didn't come up. only fan works. I figured either CPU or MB is dead. Or at least shorted somewhere hard to find.

But Outpost is nice again. Told them I followed all the manual says then they gave me RMA number and set up another order for me. 186$ for XP 1600+ and AS-750, shipped already. wish me luck this time.

It seems the long beep with interval 2-3' is a little popular here, has anybody solved it already?

 

[RedSox]

<< It seems the long beep with interval 2-3' is a little popular here, has anybody solved it already? >>



I solved it. It was an improperly seated AGP video card in my case.

 

[clay82]

bigmouth, whenever the fan runs and it acts like its booting fine, but the screen doesnt come up, there is a high probability that it is bad/ installed wrong ram. This has been the case ever since the beginings of computers, ive seen it in win 98 systems, 3.1 systems, and even in old macs.

 

[JonnyBalls]

<< yea jonnyballs, but didit you read? you can get the P4 1.6 ghz and clock to at least 2.2 ghz that makes it comparable in price, and probably a few more mhz....there's a whole thread somewhere in here about it >>



true, true... however i'd still go with the Athlon XP processor for 2 reasons...
1. i always vote for the underdog
2. i am not a huge fan of overclocking by THAT much because you void the warranty, and you could corrupt your HD, and lose valuable info, but if you are... you can overclock the P4's much better than the XP's