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AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 2.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - OEM

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Originally posted by: Jay
I thought Manchester had 512kb L2 cach (2x256) whereas Toledo has 1MB cach (2x512).

toledos has 2 x 1mb cache, mancherters have 2 x 512mb.

but there are toledos like the 4200 that have half the cache disabled.
 
Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: Jay
I thought Manchester had 512kb L2 cach (2x256) whereas Toledo has 1MB cach (2x512).

toledos has 2 x 1mb cache, mancherters have 2 x 512mb.

but there are toledos like the 4200 that have half the cache disabled.

DANG! 512MB cache!
 
Originally posted by: Gillbot
Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: Jay
I thought Manchester had 512kb L2 cach (2x256) whereas Toledo has 1MB cach (2x512).

toledos has 2 x 1mb cache, mancherters have 2 x 512mb.

but there are toledos like the 4200 that have half the cache disabled.

DANG! 512MB cache!


Wow, the die size on that chip must be larger than a dinner plate!
 
I'm currently running an FX-55 that I got last year from the Egg for $119 on a crazy sale, would I see any difference with this X2 chip over the FX-55 (for the better I mean) or have I maxed out the socket 939?
 
Got my Manchester core 4200 at 2.5 right now - same speed as my old 3700 single core was running at. I'll crank it up further over the weekend when I have time to play around so far.

BTW, socket is the same as the OP 165.
 
Originally posted by: Nessism
Got my Manchester core 4200 at 2.5 right now - same speed as my old 3700 single core was running at. I'll crank it up further over the weekend when I have time to play around so far.
How far did you get?

I have a 1.8GHz Winchester single core, looks like a good upgrade.

Thanks
Hermit

 
Originally posted by: binister
Where did all these higher end 939 CPUs come from? Every place had been out of them for almost 10 months.
Perhaps, Just perhaps, when you're losing $500M/quarter and your dealers are telling you their's demand for S939 CPU's and you have the 90nm capacity . . . then you dig out the old recipe and make some S939 X2's!!!

Stranger things have happened. 😛

 
Originally posted by: 21stHermit
Originally posted by: Nessism
Got my Manchester core 4200 at 2.5 right now - same speed as my old 3700 single core was running at. I'll crank it up further over the weekend when I have time to play around so far.
How far did you get?

I have a 1.8GHz Winchester single core, looks like a good upgrade.

Thanks
Hermit

this is exactly what i bought it for. my brother has a winchester 939 3000+ and i figure seeing as that was the slowest 939 non sempron, he would get a good year at least out of a $60 upgrade...


i just wish pc3200 was as cheap as ddr2 now and he'd be all set for a year or more.
 
i'm able to run my 4200+ at 2.6ghz, stock voltage. it gets up to 2.8, but at 1.45V. unfortunately, my hsf isn't good enough to keep it running at that speed.
 
Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: Jay
I thought Manchester had 512kb L2 cach (2x256) whereas Toledo has 1MB cach (2x512).

toledos has 2 x 1mb cache, mancherters have 2 x 512mb.

but there are toledos like the 4200 that have half the cache disabled.

CPUID is reporting my Toledo X2 3800+ to have L2 Cache 512KB x 2 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Jay
Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: Jay
I thought Manchester had 512kb L2 cach (2x256) whereas Toledo has 1MB cach (2x512).

toledos has 2 x 1mb cache, mancherters have 2 x 512mb.

but there are toledos like the 4200 that have half the cache disabled.

CPUID is reporting my Toledo X2 3800+ to have L2 Cache 512KB x 2 🙁

Here's an article. extreme overclocking
 
Originally posted by: Jay
Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: Jay
I thought Manchester had 512kb L2 cach (2x256) whereas Toledo has 1MB cach (2x512).

toledos has 2 x 1mb cache, mancherters have 2 x 512mb.

but there are toledos like the 4200 that have half the cache disabled.

CPUID is reporting my Toledo X2 3800+ to have L2 Cache 512KB x 2 🙁

yeah the toledo 3800 4200 and 4600 all had disabled cache.


amd then went to all 512x 2 mancherster dies except opterons because the die size savings.
 
Wanted to post a small update regarding the chip I received. Runs fine at 10.5 x 250 = 2.625 Ghz @ 1.40 volts. Passed Prime for several hours with a max temp of 48C (using XP120 cooler with slow fan). 11 x 250 was a no go - Prime errors although it worked fine for surfing and such. I think I'm just going to stand pat at 2.65 for now, it's a nice upgrade from a single core at 2.5. Trying to resist the temptation to upgrade my entire system for a while longer.
 
Originally posted by: Gillbot
Mine booted right up @ 250fsb with no tweaking at all.
AMD A64 x2 4200+ OEM Hit 2740 on AIR without trying (YMMV) with THIS Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro


Mine booted up fine but there were errors in Prime so I lowered the multiplier to 10.5. Decided to take advantage of the second core by doing some video editing...only to have the system crash.🙁 Lowered it some more and having another go. A little disappointed but what do you expect for $60?
 
boo for newegg using UUPS!
sometimes ok,
sometimes misrouted/late (this order),
sometimes never arrives at all (last time I ordered Newegg, UUUPS claimed delivery, but it never was delivered & they had to reship).

remember the good ol days when Newegg used FedEx? alas.
 
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