AMD 7900GRE general release

[BFG10K]

Global release (was China-only), price-cut from $650 to $550. Also 7700XT gets a $30 price-cut to $419.

OMG guys, AMD must be selling both cards at a loss, amirite?

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Pulse Review

The Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Pulse emerges as the best GRE model released today, offering exceptional value at AMD's MSRP of $550. Outperforming the RX 4070 Super in raster, it operates whisper-quiet, catering to gamers and enthusiasts seeking top-tier performance without exceeding their budget.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[AtenRa]

At the same MSRP the 7900GRE is almost 30% faster in Raster and only 10% slower in RT at 1440p against the RTX4070.
16GB vs 12GB and excellent thermals and noise levels.

Sapphire RX 7900 GRE Nitro+ Review

Sapphire's RX 7900 GRE flagship card, the Nitro+, impresses with its superb cooler featuring ARGB illumination and unparalleled quietness, topping tests conducted today. Its gaming performance beats the RTX 4070 Super, but ends up slightly more expensive than that.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I have to give the devil his due. Rich has the best look at the card I've seen. How and why he tested as he did, and the fact he changed the cost per frame Ferengi math from what all the other big outlets use, is praise worthy. There is obvious the perfunctory Nvidia marketing points; he likes money. It didn't keep the review from being entertaining and balanced though.

 

[Heartbreaker]

HWUB is my go to, and the GRE was even worse than I was expecting. It's barely above the 7800XT, and it's being purposefully crippled by low memory speeds. What is the point?

 

[jpiniero]

HWUB is my go to, and the GRE was even worse than I was expecting. It's barely above the 7800XT, and it's being purposefully crippled by low memory speeds. What is the point?

Busted dies?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

HWUB is my go to, and the GRE was even worse than I was expecting.

LULZ yeah man, we all know your POV by now. It was tested 6 months ago what were you expecting to change? Don't answer that it's rhetorical.

What is the point?

So when they clear out the early adopters they can release a super version. Wait, no, that' not right. A Titanium Rabbit Edition. No, its element symbol is Ti... can't do that. Platinum Rabbit Edition, yeah that's better.

 

[igor_kavinski]

This thread is off to a great start!

 

[Shmee]

I wonder if there will be BIOS mods for overclocking the memory further. Would be neat.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

This thread is off to a great start!

Watch the DF vid if you get a chance. Changing the Ferengi math was something I appreciate. Rich, despite the close relationship with Nvidia still produces some good content for other vendors. This is a fine example. Going all the way back to 2016? when he showed the FX 8350 was better in Witcher 3 than the i3 and i5 of the time, I have perused his content. No one else was taking the time to test Novigrad market or the docks where CPU load is heaviest, and he put the extra work in.

 

[SPBHM]

I have to give the devil his due. Rich has the best look at the card I've seen. How and why he tested as he did, and the fact he changed the cost per frame Ferengi math from what all the other big outlets use, is praise worthy. There is obvious the perfunctory Nvidia marketing points; he likes money. It didn't keep the review from being entertaining and balanced though.

I don't think that they are highlighting nvidia marketing points due to money, the people involved in DF clearly appreciate RT as enthusiasts of the latest graphics tech and the value and polish of DLSS

I think his analysis was very fair, the card is offering better value than others around it, but there are some disadvantages still.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I don't think that they are highlighting nvidia marketing points due to money, the people involved in DF clearly appreciate RT as enthusiasts of the latest graphics tech and the value and polish of DLSS

Here we disagree. They are provided and promote exclusive sponsored content from Nvidia. If you don't think that comes with some "editorial direction"; the same kind they tried to push on hardware unboxed, then <insert we are not the same meme here>. Sometimes it's digital foundry, sometimes it's digital founder's edition. I am far from alone in this opinion.

I think his analysis was very fair, the card is offering better value than others around it, but there are some disadvantages still.

Here we agree and I wrote as much.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

More options and more downward price pressure. Say what you will about the card itself, its general release is a good thing, not unlike many of the Super cards.

 

[manly]

Watch the DF vid if you get a chance. Changing the Ferengi math was something I appreciate. Rich, despite the close relationship with Nvidia still produces some good content for other vendors. This is a fine example. Going all the way back to 2016? when he showed the FX 8350 was better in Witcher 3 than the i3 and i5 of the time, I have perused his content. No one else was taking the time to test Novigrad market or the docks where CPU load is heaviest, and he put the extra work in.

The HWUB and DF reviews are drastically different in data points and conclusion.
Who do I believe? 🤔

 

[igor_kavinski]

Consider just this point: Geforce cards will get slower with age due to being left out of future driver optimizations but Radeon cards will get faster with fine wine drivers!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The HWUB and DF reviews are drastically different in data points and conclusion.
Who do I believe? 🤔

Here's an idea. Don't believe anything. Look at half dozen reviews out there. How each tested, what they tested with. Which games they used and at which settings for those games. Then maybe form you own conclusion. Or you can let Aussie Steve spoon feed you and be content with not having your own opinion.

Daniel-San tested not only resolution but different quality settings at those resolutions, upscaling, RT, and frame generation. GN tested with a 12700KF so their results are interesting too.

After watching and reading, I've concluded it falls exactly where it should for price to performance. It's a boring release because of that. If they had drop the rest of the 7000 series stack below it $50 and made the MSRP $499 it'd be much more interesting.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I don't think that they are highlighting nvidia marketing points due to money, the people involved in DF clearly appreciate RT as enthusiasts of the latest graphics tech and the value and polish of DLSS

I think his analysis was very fair, the card is offering better value than others around it, but there are some disadvantages still.

It's funny how they never talk much about Nvidia's DX12 driver overhead that hurts the cards with lower end cpus but they screamed it from the rooftops when AMD's DX11 driver overhead made their gpus a problem with lower end cpus years ago.

 

[manly]

Here's an idea. Don't believe anything. Look at half dozen reviews out there. How each tested, what they tested with. Which games they used and at which settings for those games. Then maybe form you own conclusion. Or you can let Aussie Steve spoon feed you and be content with not having your own opinion.

Daniel-San tested not only resolution but different quality settings at those resolutions, upscaling, RT, and frame generation. GN tested with a 12700KF so their results are interesting too.

After watching and reading, I've concluded it falls exactly where it should for price to performance. It's a boring release because of that. If they had drop the rest of the 7000 series stack below it $50 and made the MSRP $499 it'd be much more interesting.

I'm not an enthusiast, so Thanks for the executive summary! I read the Tom's conclusion and it's somewhere between the extremes.

I think the 7700 XT will undercut $400 at some point, and the 7800 XT could sniff $460 and below.

 

[blckgrffn]

These are out in force at MC. Great availability and at MSRP or very close:



The daily email from MC highlighted the launch and their availability.

I highlight this because I thought maybe we'd get one or two skus with handful in stock at most. This seems like a legit launch.

 

[blckgrffn]

I'm not an enthusiast, so Thanks for the executive summary! I read the Tom's conclusion and it's somewhere between the extremes.

I think the 7700 XT will undercut $400 at some point, and the 7800 XT could sniff $460 and below.

I agree. When we see the 7700XT/7800XT/7900GRE lineup hitting 399/449/500 then we'll be finally getting some value back after years of one way price movements. Heck, I'd like the 7700XT closer to $350 but oh well.

I am hopeful that I will get an RDNA4 card that doubles the perf of my 6800 for less than $600 pre tax. That means a card with perf between the 7900XT and 7900XTX. We inched a little closer today.

 

[mikeymikec]

Is the card really called the Golden Rabbit Edition or is that a techpowerup joke?

 

[In2Photos]

Is the card really called the Golden Rabbit Edition or is that a techpowerup joke?

That is what GRE stands for. It was for the year of the rabbit in China, which is where the card was originally released.

 

[jpiniero]

Is the card really called the Golden Rabbit Edition or is that a techpowerup joke?

Yeah, because it was originally intended to be China only. I suspect it's only getting a global release because the 7900M was a bust and they need to get rid of the very busted chips.

 

[mikeymikec]

That is what GRE stands for. It was for the year of the rabbit in China, which is where the card was originally released.

Ooooo-kay!

No wonder CrossFire was killed off, otherwise a pair of these cards might breed like... never mind.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

More options and more downward price pressure. Say what you will about the card itself, its general release is a good thing, not unlike many of the Super cards.

The 7700XT just got an official price cut to $419. Should be seeing sub $400 sale prices on lower end models soon. But it's always these little dink and dunks. I agree with @blckgrffn that $350 is where it would shine. Replacing the 6700XT and 6750XT for that price range.

If AMD keeps doing this dumb bang for buck adjustment vs Nvidia? Always trying to maximize profits for themselves and their partners whenever possible, for as long as possible? Then lets say I'd enjoy seeing what happens if Gandalf/B series shows up and wizard staffs them right in the tenders.

 

[SolidQ]

I am hopeful that I will get an RDNA4 card that doubles the perf of my 6800 for less than $600 pre tax. That means a card with perf between the 7900XT and 7900XTX.

That what is current rumor about RDNA4, between 7900XT/XTX and faster RT for 500-600$