AMAZING!! Eve empyrean age released!

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Punter
After seeing this thread I visited some others forums and the word seemed to be that if your are starting out be prepared to grind for 6 months before enjoying pvp and invest 2 years before 'owning' anyone. Seems a bit extreme, is this really the case?

It's not the case, and Goonfleet is a good example of this.

 

[Riverhound777]

Originally posted by: Punter
After seeing this thread I visited some others forums and the word seemed to be that if your are starting out be prepared to grind for 6 months before enjoying pvp and invest 2 years before 'owning' anyone. Seems a bit extreme, is this really the case?

Definetely not the case. Frigs are usefull right off the bat.

 

[Oakenfold]

You guys are making me want to try the demo again...
Last time I actually made it through the tutorial (the first time, aside from the beta I wondered if the tutorial ever ended) and a few missions.

 

[lupi]

I had more fun playing archlord than Eve.

 

[hooflung]

Originally posted by: Punter
After seeing this thread I visited some others forums and the word seemed to be that if your are starting out be prepared to grind for 6 months before enjoying pvp and invest 2 years before 'owning' anyone. Seems a bit extreme, is this really the case?

That usually comes from people who abstain from PVP or are just so shell shocked from a game with actually consequence to actions they try to pass that off as EVE.

It is not the case. And as has been said GoonFleet is a shining example of how low skill point players can have impact on veterans. I have 60 million skillpoints on my main ( my third actual character since I quit for 2 months in 2004 and gave the other characters away to friends ). When I am in a jaguar in faction warfare I am using maybe at 5 million skillpoints. Afterall, two races worth of Capital ship skill training is pointless when your flying a tech 2 frigate.

Also, every player now starts out with 800k skillpoints. You are but a week and a half from creation to fly a ship I am flying right now in Faction Warfare. Sure, it won't be AS good as me because I have a lot invested into support skills but even so another jaguar pilot with say a week of careful skill investment will only 5-10% off in those areas ( each ) and player skill has as much to do with killing as your skillpoint investment.

Not to say you need a week of gameplay. You can be useful from day one if you do your homework on what you need to train.

Take your time and specialize in your ships. Don't get caught up in the rat race of 'bigger = better' because that is not true. Everyone has a role to play in combat.

Red Alliance is one of the most hardcore corporations in EVE. They are a Russian body of players that fly capitals like most people fly frigates. They had 3 capital ships blasted in the face by the Caldari Militia today AND their moon mining tower in Caldari Militia space has been put into reinforced ( it will die in 2 days if RA doesn't defend it ). That says quite a lot about how a bunch of 'newbs' are doing in FW.

Its great fun and once it settles down and people 'get it' I have a feeling a lot of good people are going to rise up out of their once carebear shells. Its good times all around.

 

[hooflung]

Originally posted by: KMFJD

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: KMFJD

You forgot Eve Employees cheat ingame....

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Ah so that never did happen? I stand corrected

There was one developer, the web developer at the time who edited the website and did the xml data dump code, who went into the database and gave himself a few tech 2 BPOs and eventually gave them to the alliance he was in.

He was cought over summer vacation while the people with firing power were out. Icelandic vacations mean total blackout pretty much. You don't break someones vacation, its just not their culture. The committee that was there did not have the authority to fire him so they disciplined him. They removed the items and the his characters and some other interal abuse according to what authority the DID have.

According to icelandic law and they could not fire him after he had already been punished.

That was 2006 when he was finally cought. It was one developer. They now watch their employees like a hawk when it comes to toolset and database access with an Internal Affarairs program that looks at allegations. Which, I might add are brought forth by GoonFleet, Razor and Pandemic Legion alliances who are known to have pariah complexes and in character hatred to the alliance T20 was in because they cannot beat them in game so they cry about it like the douches and try social engineering which at times is a detriment to the the game they claim they love.

Yes someone in CCP messed up. That doesn't mean the thousands of kills I have are null and void and the fun I have to this very day is meaningless because someone is pulling 'the strings' of a sandbox game. They aren't.

http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=472

 

[BadRobot]

bigger can mean its better sometimes. But the chances of you knowing what to equip and actually having the skills to equip it properly is slim.

But a group of small ships can really own a couple big ships. You just have to find people to fly with.

 

[randay]

small scale gang warfare is what kept me in the game, when they bred that out with all the content changes towards alliance warfare i became inactive. now that its back i will be picking up a ship and blowing up the billions of isk i have been building up since i went inactive. ...well if you count playing a couple hours a week and making billions a month as inactive.

ill be in minnie faction, because thats the only pvp character i have left at my disposal.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: randay
small scale gang warfare is what kept me in the game, when they bred that out with all the content changes towards alliance warfare i became inactive. now that its back i will be picking up a ship and blowing up the billions of isk i have been building up since i went inactive. ...well if you count playing a couple hours a week and making billions a month as inactive.

ill be in minnie faction, because thats the only pvp character i have left at my disposal.

I came in and began as a small time pirate but have pretty much realized that small gang warfare is dead in most forms. I mean it's easy enough to take a recon gang and go around but it's still fairly limited.

Also FW is pretty blobby. It depends on time I think. also initial hype.

 

[Kadarin]

I think the fact that the Caldari FW gang took out three RA carriers and reinforced their promethium mining POS is hilarious, and it's making me want to return to the game to join the militia.

 

[JRich]

It's a Caldari blob-fest

 

[Jimmah]

I'm avoiding FW for the time being, am in Ka-Tet feeding Atlas the pineapple.

Matari ftw, it'll be fun to pwn Caldari and Amarr faces.

 

[Mide]

So can anyone describe how this new expansion works? You join a militia in a base and take missions for a faction and you're still killing NPCs? Am I correct or does it turn into PvP somewhere?

 

[Oakenfold]

Anyone care to comment on the time criteria for this game? How many hours per week do you put in?

 

[BadRobot]

Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Anyone care to comment on the time criteria for this game? How many hours per week do you put in?

For me its anywhere from 5 to 20

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: Mide
So can anyone describe how this new expansion works? You join a militia in a base and take missions for a faction and you're still killing NPCs? Am I correct or does it turn into PvP somewhere?

http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g625.asp

Read the Guide. Theres a lot, and I can't type it all out

I put about 5-15 hours a week into this game

 

[Mide]

Ok I read that link, so let me get this straight. You join a faction, get a mission, go into low-sec to get to the mission. After you warp in, a "beacon" is revealed to all other FW peeps in the system. Both sides can warp to this area. So I would be fighting an enemy faction's NPC ships, any enemy faction's player ships, and I "might" have some support from others in my own faction if they are in the system. This "seems" interesting, but if you go solo you will probably get owned. It will also suck that if you configure your ship for NPC rats, that's much different from a player and how they are outfitted. Since everyone in a faction is in a channel this could be cool if people are organized, but if not, it will blow.

 

[BadRobot]

Originally posted by: Mide
Since everyone in a faction is in a channel this could be cool if people are organized, but if not, it will blow.

Most people are chompin at the bit for some pvp action. I doubt anyone has a hard time finding support in those channels. Especially because people are in those chanels because they joined the factional wars.

 

[HeXploiT]

Alright so I would like to ask the opinion of some experienced Eve players here on a strategy a friend and I are working out. First off we want to start off as a two player alliance. Click & Clack. We wish to refrain from getting into any large groups in order to keep glory and goods for ourselves. Here's what we are currently planning
We're currently looking at two ships. One a black-ops ship with powerful close range weapons and the other a logistics ship ready to fight and protect from a distance.
The Black ops ship will be undertaking various tasks such as robbing destroyed ships in battle cornering unprotected vessels to either destroy or blackmail individuals all the while the logistics ship covers the covert ops ship from a distance and makes sure things stay under control. Alright this may seem very general but we still don't have an in depth understanding of the game but we're working on it. I guess what I want to know is how well this combination of ships might be able to perform working together for various devious tasks?
Will we be able to survive & thrive in this unforgiving world of Eve?

 

[Mide]

Are you all trained up for those ships?

 

[HeXploiT]

No. Working on it though. I figure we can get all the training done and money that needs to be made for everything including equipping the ships in about a month or so.

 

[SirJangly]

I downloaded the trial, and after my initial play, it keeps on crashing at the Empyrean Age loading pic when you first open the client

 

[Mide]

Originally posted by: Perry404
No. Working on it though. I figure we can get all the training done and money that needs to be made for everything including equipping the ships in about a month or so.

It takes a while to get all the skills necessary to fly that black ops ship well. And even after that you might not want to risk it when engaging in pvp. Of course that will depend on how much isk you have going for you. Good luck all the same though.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Punter
After seeing this thread I visited some others forums and the word seemed to be that if your are starting out be prepared to grind for 6 months before enjoying pvp and invest 2 years before 'owning' anyone. Seems a bit extreme, is this really the case?

That usually comes from people who abstain from PVP or are just so shell shocked from a game with actually consequence to actions they try to pass that off as EVE.

It is not the case. And as has been said GoonFleet is a shining example of how low skill point players can have impact on veterans. I have 60 million skillpoints on my main ( my third actual character since I quit for 2 months in 2004 and gave the other characters away to friends ). When I am in a jaguar in faction warfare I am using maybe at 5 million skillpoints. Afterall, two races worth of Capital ship skill training is pointless when your flying a tech 2 frigate.

Also, every player now starts out with 800k skillpoints. You are but a week and a half from creation to fly a ship I am flying right now in Faction Warfare. Sure, it won't be AS good as me because I have a lot invested into support skills but even so another jaguar pilot with say a week of careful skill investment will only 5-10% off in those areas ( each ) and player skill has as much to do with killing as your skillpoint investment.

Not to say you need a week of gameplay. You can be useful from day one if you do your homework on what you need to train.

Take your time and specialize in your ships. Don't get caught up in the rat race of 'bigger = better' because that is not true. Everyone has a role to play in combat.

Red Alliance is one of the most hardcore corporations in EVE. They are a Russian body of players that fly capitals like most people fly frigates. They had 3 capital ships blasted in the face by the Caldari Militia today AND their moon mining tower in Caldari Militia space has been put into reinforced ( it will die in 2 days if RA doesn't defend it ). That says quite a lot about how a bunch of 'newbs' are doing in FW.

Its great fun and once it settles down and people 'get it' I have a feeling a lot of good people are going to rise up out of their once carebear shells. Its good times all around.

So true..... There is nothing like a 2 week to 1 month old player flying a ECM ship ( like a Griffin or Blackbird ) who is part of a gank squad and is jamming a 70-100 million ISK battleship that belongs to a 5 year vet.

 

[Mide]

Or a 1 month old player flying through low-sec in a newly bought BS with no fittings at all