rcpratt
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If you don't think possible huge advancements in steel technology are a big deal, then you're a bigger idiot than I thought.
Engineer
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LOL. Actually, we require transparent aluminum also for that to work correctly so look for Kirk and a couple of humpback whales....
Actually, if (if, if, if) this pans out, it could go a long way in helping achieve some of the higher mileage requirements for automobiles in the near future. Crosses fingers...cautiously optimistic.
No million mile carbon fibre engines in corrosion proof frames? Iron still rusts.
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Its a big deal, just not political news, and this website does have a forum for anything high tech. However, if people want to post random news I prefer the World Weekly News and anything with babes.
Pulsar
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Holy crap! I can't believe this was posted here. Talk about wierd....
Since we're using Bainite on our robot right now.
Oh, it's real. Very real. You should see the capacitor banks that required to make it. The department of defense is after it in a big way too because it far outshines other steels in bullet-proofing.
Pretty wierd how we got into the whole thing too - we were looking for a sponsor for a high school robotics team. They've got it going on a small and medium scale, and are now working on the large-scale line.
Way cool to see this here since I've held it in my hands and have pieces of it in the shop.
Since we're using Bainite on our robot right now.
Oh, it's real. Very real. You should see the capacitor banks that required to make it. The department of defense is after it in a big way too because it far outshines other steels in bullet-proofing.
Pretty wierd how we got into the whole thing too - we were looking for a sponsor for a high school robotics team. They've got it going on a small and medium scale, and are now working on the large-scale line.
Way cool to see this here since I've held it in my hands and have pieces of it in the shop.
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Doppel
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Oh F@(#ing great. You're putting this on robots. You work for Cyberdyne Systems, don't you?
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High School robots interest students. Very great real world news. You could call this the steel age.
wuliheron
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That's you own voices in your head talking dude. Take your anti-psychotic meds and you'll be able to tell the difference.
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Drako
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If it's a joke, then I'd like to see how he got the engineering department at OSU to go along with it.
I'm sure Tressel told them to lie. :biggrin:
Drako
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It seems very similar, but I think they are heating and then cooling the steel in around 10 seconds - hence the "flash".
"Rollers carried steel sheets through flames as hot as 1100 degrees Celsius and then into a cooling liquid bath. The typical temperature and length of time for hardening varies by industry, most steels are heat-treated at around 900 degrees Celsius for a few hours. Others are heated at similar temperatures for days. Cola's entire process took less than 10 seconds."
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I have been trying to find more about Super Bainite from other sources, but so far I am not finding out much more.
But to a great extent, its not the strongest steel we have in any terms. Many existing hardened steels are far stronger in terms of tensile strength. Just a fancy term for saying how much force does it take to pull it apart.
But the thing about many of those stronger steels is that the yield point and ultimate failure points are one and the same. The really cool thing about Super Bainite, is its 10%
elongation capability at very high strength allowing it to absorb shocks without significant distortion. In short, the yield point and ultimate failure points are now wider apart than with any hardened steel we had before.
In short its a new type of designer steel that can be manufactured at less energy inputs. But still the cost per pound of the raw steel seems a bit expensive. And the other question, can it use the outputs of the basic oxygen furnaces now in vogue, that
depend on the raw material inputs of scrap steels of widely varying alloy compositions?
But to a great extent, its not the strongest steel we have in any terms. Many existing hardened steels are far stronger in terms of tensile strength. Just a fancy term for saying how much force does it take to pull it apart.
But the thing about many of those stronger steels is that the yield point and ultimate failure points are one and the same. The really cool thing about Super Bainite, is its 10%
elongation capability at very high strength allowing it to absorb shocks without significant distortion. In short, the yield point and ultimate failure points are now wider apart than with any hardened steel we had before.
In short its a new type of designer steel that can be manufactured at less energy inputs. But still the cost per pound of the raw steel seems a bit expensive. And the other question, can it use the outputs of the basic oxygen furnaces now in vogue, that
depend on the raw material inputs of scrap steels of widely varying alloy compositions?
Pulsar
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The point is the elongation. Hit a normal piece of hardened steel with a 50 cal round and it will fracture and tear and fail. Not so with the Bainite. It's elongation allows it to dissipate the hit. So you get a piece of steel that is 'the best of both worlds'. As I said, the DoD is salivating according to the owner.... he just needs to get those 4x8 sheets in production.
I actually have a piece sitting on my tool box that has been shot by a number of different rounds showing how it elongates rather than tearing and fracturing.
Part of the difference is in large point how quickly it is heated and cooled. I mentioned the capacitors required to do what they're doing - it's insane how much power it takes. It's even more insane when you see their cooling system. Judging by their cooling capacity you'd think they had a nuclear reactor in the building.
I actually have a piece sitting on my tool box that has been shot by a number of different rounds showing how it elongates rather than tearing and fracturing.
Part of the difference is in large point how quickly it is heated and cooled. I mentioned the capacitors required to do what they're doing - it's insane how much power it takes. It's even more insane when you see their cooling system. Judging by their cooling capacity you'd think they had a nuclear reactor in the building.
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