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Amanda Knox Conviction Overturned, Set Free

For what it's worth I never thought the prosecution theory in this case made any sense, and there was precious little evidence. My sense is that it's appropriate she's being released.
 
I haven't read enough to form an opinion, and much of what I have read has been contradictory. So I'll just hope that she is innocent and thus, that justice has finally prevailed.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
For what it's worth I never thought the prosecution theory in this case made any sense, and there was precious little evidence. My sense is that it's appropriate she's being released.
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The prosecution's theory was somewhat incoherent because the evidence was somewhat incoherent. Unfortunately, evidence doesn't always cooperate in assisting the prosecution to form a clear narrative. I have felt that she was guilty because she told too many inconsistent stories and provably lied on numerous occasions, including slandering someone else (her conviction for that was apparently upheld.) All that said, you're probably right that she should be released.
 
woolfe9999 said:
I haven't thoroughly reviewed what happened in this appeal as yet, but I will say I had read up on this case at some length and my feeling was that she was about 80% likely to be guilty. Right on the cusp of reasonable doubt.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44752948/ns/world_news-europe/?GT1=43001

The verdict might be reasonable but if she's actually I guilty I do feel bad for the victim's family not getting justice.

- wolf
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Nonsensical theory + acting like a noob = 80% guilty? lol.
 
woolfe9999 said:
The prosecution's theory was somewhat incoherent because the evidence was somewhat incoherent. Unfortunately, evidence doesn't always cooperate in assisting the prosecution to form a clear narrative. I have felt that she was guilty because she told too many inconsistent stories and provably lied on numerous occasions, including slandering someone else (her conviction for that was apparently upheld.) All that said, you're probably right that she should be released.
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the slander is for saying, on the stand at her criminal trial, that the cops had beaten her.
 
I have no idea who Amanda Knox is but I can guess it's somebody the sleaze news has made a big issue. I don't follow sensationalist news designed to deliver eyes to brainwasher's selling shit to morons. I could have said this nicer but hey.
 
JS80 said:
Nonsensical theory + acting like a noob = 80% guilty? lol.
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I'm not going to write 2000 words about everything I remember reading about the case. If you have an opinion on the subject, then state it. Otherwise, you're just thread crapping.
 
ElFenix said:
the slander is for saying, on the stand at her criminal trial, that the cops had beaten her.
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Yeah you're right. That was the reason for the slander conviction. The guy she falsely accused sued for civil damages and won but that was a separate thing.
 
woolfe9999 said:
The prosecution's theory was somewhat incoherent because the evidence was somewhat incoherent. Unfortunately, evidence doesn't always cooperate in assisting the prosecution to form a clear narrative. I have felt that she was guilty because she told too many inconsistent stories and provably lied on numerous occasions, including slandering someone else (her conviction for that was apparently upheld.) All that said, you're probably right that she should be released.
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This is why guilt shouldn't be determined by feelings. Punish the people with evidence against them leave the witch hunts to the crazies of a couple of hundred years ago where they should stay.
 
werepossum said:
I haven't read enough to form an opinion, and much of what I have read has been contradictory. So I'll just hope that she is innocent and thus, that justice has finally prevailed.
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When an innocent person is released after being held in prison for an extended time it's not justice prevailing. It's just justice losing a bit of it's tarnish (not that the justice system is always bad). There's no fixing the imprisonment of an innocent person back to even being even yet alone prevailing.
 
Hard to tell about the appropriateness of this verdict from the (as usual) terrible media coverage. Just once I'd like to see a legal or technical story that doesn't make it abundantly clear why the people covering the story went into journalism and not law or science.

Still, the highlights I've read don't make it sound like there was a very strong case there...and it also made the Italian legal system sound like everything you'd expect from the phrase "Italian legal system".
 
Rainsford said:
Hard to tell about the appropriateness of this verdict from the (as usual) terrible media coverage. Just once I'd like to see a legal or technical story that doesn't make it abundantly clear why the people covering the story went into journalism and not law or science.

Still, the highlights I've read don't make it sound like there was a very strong case there...and it also made the Italian legal system sound like everything you'd expect from the phrase "Italian legal system".
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The original trial produced a 400 page review of the evidence to support the guilty verdict. Doesn't mean it was a great case. Just saying there is better information than the summaries that you find in the media. The doc is available online if memory serves.
 
sportage said:
This should lead to a thread "who gives a f*ck"

Or to the website "who gives a f*ck.com"
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Interesting point. Why do we give less of a fuck about this case than we did the Troy Davis execution? This story has gotten about 10 fold more media coverage than that one. Is it because there was racial politics involved in the Davis case and so everyone on P&N gets all frothy about it?
 
woolfe9999 said:
Interesting point. Why do we give less of a fuck about this case than we did the Troy Davis execution? This story has gotten about 10 fold more media coverage than that one. Is it because there was racial politics involved in the Davis case and so everyone on P&N gets all frothy about it?
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Cute girl

foreign country

multiple experts question evidence and investigation

wrongfully convicted based on same evidence

It has all the makings of a great story for the media.

The Troy Davis story doesn't, other than all the claims that he was innocent. Otherwise we have a black guy who shot one guy in the face, beat another over the head with a pistol and shot a police officer and was convicted by biracial jury after only 2 hours of deliberations. If Troy Davis had been a white cop killer I doubt anyone would have cared.
 
ProfJohn said:
Cute girl

foreign country

multiple experts question evidence and investigation

wrongfully convicted based on same evidence

It has all the makings of a great story for the media.

The Troy Davis story doesn't, other than all the claims that he was innocent. Otherwise we have a black guy who shot one guy in the face, beat another over the head with a pistol and shot a police officer and was convicted by biracial jury after only 2 hours of deliberations. If Troy Davis had been a white cop killer I doubt anyone would have cared.
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Two things seem guarenteed to elevate the media status of a story: a pretty girl is the victim (Lacey Peterson), or a pretty girl is the alleged killer (Knox, Anthony).

I agree that the Knox story is "sexier" than the Davis story, which is why it got at least 10x the coverage. The only reason the Davis story got any press at all was because of questions about his guilt. How many other black people on death row, cop killers or not, come and go and we hear nothing about them?

- wolf
 
Jaskalas said:
:\ Why the hell would a person say that?
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Probably because they are stupid and/or crazy and making up sensational lies to deflect attention has been their MO their whole life. There are just more repercussions when you spew bullshit on the stand.
 
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