BarkingGhostar
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And there are those that trash Bladerunner, and the follow up 2049. I liked both and for different reasons.
It's the best of the three prequels, but the acting is still awful. Clone Wars was absolutely unwatchable---the dialog sounded like a high-school play.
And there are those that trash Bladerunner, and the follow up 2049. I liked both and for different reasons.
Yeah. For all the flack given to the prequels, Force Awakens was the first that left me feeling hollow upon leaving the theater. The sequels tried so hard to shoehorn the New Republic into being "the underdog" again it just didn't work. These movies should have been about the struggles of going from hit and run freedom fighters into forming a functional government that works. Meanwhile the Imperials, reduced to remnants, become the new "rebels". The line between freedom fighter and terrorist would be blurred. One man's peace and security is another man's tyranny and so forth. That's the direction Star Wars needed to go, but in the end Disney watered it down for mainstreamy mass market appeal, to the point where there was nothing of substance left.Just watched "The force awakens" 2 days afgo, it was on TNT, although production values were very high they basically re-did the original SW complete with a bigger death star, very disappointing story and script. Ever since they hoisted Jar Jar Binks up I quit watching anything SW after that, talk about annoying.
I thought there was a quite decent prequel.There are only 3 star wars movies - fuck the rest. And the 3rd is questionable!
I think you misspelled "Rogue One".Episode I > *
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Yea, it's clear Disney wanted a cash making machine with TFA, glad I didn't pay to see this and the excuse of "oh, that's what people wanted" is lame.Yeah. For all the flack given to the prequels, Force Awakens was the first that left me feeling hollow upon leaving the theater. The sequels tried so hard to shoehorn the New Republic into being "the underdog" again it just didn't work. These movies should have been about the struggles of going from hit and run freedom fighters into forming a functional government that works. Meanwhile the Imperials, reduced to remnants, become the new "rebels". The line between freedom fighter and terrorist would be blurred. One man's peace and security is another man's tyranny and so forth. That's the direction Star Wars needed to go, but in the end Disney watered it down for mainstreamy mass market appeal, to the point where there was nothing of substance left.
Yeah. For all the flack given to the prequels, Force Awakens was the first that left me feeling hollow upon leaving the theater. The sequels tried so hard to shoehorn the New Republic into being "the underdog" again it just didn't work. These movies should have been about the struggles of going from hit and run freedom fighters into forming a functional government that works. Meanwhile the Imperials, reduced to remnants, become the new "rebels". The line between freedom fighter and terrorist would be blurred. One man's peace and security is another man's tyranny and so forth. That's the direction Star Wars needed to go, but in the end Disney watered it down for mainstreamy mass market appeal, to the point where there was nothing of substance left.
Well I guess you could rip apart just about any movie ever made if you read that deeply into it.Never particularly liked it. Probably simply that was a bit too old for it when it first came out. Too much fairy-tale space-opera, not enough hard-SF, for a geek like me, I guess. But the politics also put me off. As an anti-monarchist in a country that has actual princesses (that the media never stop telling you about), it's hard to like any movie that has a Princess as a central heroine. Not to mention all the dubious mystical 'Force' stuff not sitting well with my teenage atheism. In fact that apparently got worse in the sequels, as I understand it (haven't seen most of them) as the mysticism and the royalty themes merged when Lucas made it all about some sort of natural mystical aristocracy, who are just biologically superior to everyone else.
I remember liking the TV show Blakes Seven a lot more at that time. Group of scrappy rebels take on an evil empire, fail at everything they do, hate each others guts, and all die in the end. Seemed a more realistic depiction of actual revolution and resistance to me.
I was surprised to find recently that I didn't mind Rogue One, though. It didn't have too much of that mystical guff in it, was more a story of the ordinary footsoldiers of revolutions who die in obscurity so the Princesses and the gurus could get all the credit and glory.
Never particularly liked it. Probably simply that was a bit too old for it when it first came out. Too much fairy-tale space-opera, not enough hard-SF, for a geek like me, I guess. But the politics also put me off. As an anti-monarchist in a country that has actual princesses (that the media never stop telling you about), it's hard to like any movie that has a Princess as a central heroine. Not to mention all the dubious mystical 'Force' stuff not sitting well with my teenage atheism. In fact that apparently got worse in the sequels, as I understand it (haven't seen most of them) as the mysticism and the royalty themes merged when Lucas made it all about some sort of natural mystical aristocracy, who are just biologically superior to everyone else.
I remember liking the TV show Blakes Seven a lot more at that time. Group of scrappy rebels take on an evil empire, fail at everything they do, hate each others guts, and all die in the end. Seemed a more realistic depiction of actual revolution and resistance to me.
I was surprised to find recently that I didn't mind Rogue One, though. It didn't have too much of that mystical guff in it, was more a story of the ordinary footsoldiers of revolutions who die in obscurity so the Princesses and the gurus could get all the credit and glory.
Yup, it's clear hey had to CGI that entire android because there would be no logical way it could locomotive itself then hey, lets mount it's "head" on in an obvious way to look cooky and sell more toys. I guess since Lucas sold the franchise for a small fortune to Disney they looked to make a fast recoup ASAP. I about laughed when I saw the "new" death star, was this supposed to be a joke.I'm watching it right now and already annoyed after 30 minutes.
* Android design is totally ridiculous and makes no sense. Looks like a soccer ball.
* Protagonist is a British girl with annoying accent.
* Political correctness and diversity shoved to our faces.
Yep, say this a lot. Star Wars was supposed to be a one-off movie, everyone (including Lucas) was surprised at how popular it became, so they made a sequel that had to spin a story into the first movie and make it look like it was always supposed to be there. Lucas actually had an adequate budget for Empire Strike Back, so he was able to create a cinematic masterpiece (the lighting in that movie alone influenced filming for decades to come).First and foremost, the Star Wars franchise should be separated into the original trilogy and everything else. If you want to hate on anything after Return of the Jedi go ahead. And if you want to include some parts of Return of the Jedi, that's okay too.
But you're completely wrong about the first two movies. They were not meant to be anything other than what they were, entertaining space westerns. And they were truly epic examples of film making for that era. While the stories were simple, the art that went into making them was some of the best ever done in movies. They were fast, fun and capable of being enjoyed by kids and adults and that's tough to pull off.
Well I guess you could rip apart just about any movie ever made if you read that deeply into it.
As a kid watching Star Wars I never once thought about any of those possible societal or religious connections.
I don't like shows/movies where they play dress-up. I was all into Dark Angel sci-fi until they started with the freak show in S2.
Never watched Star Wars (maybe a few minutes), never watched Star Trek, and hell naw at LOTR.
Well that includes every movie and tv show ever besides documentaries.
I'm talking wack masks and costumes, something all 3 movies have in common. But you knew that.
I'm talking wack masks and costumes, something all 3 movies have in common. But you knew that.
I don't like shows/movies where they play dress-up.
Maybe he watches a lot of pr0n?Well that includes every movie and tv show ever besides documentaries.
